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Kerosene
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posted March 01, 2013 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know a someone with a virgo asc around 28 degrees, her entire first house is in libra. She has more libra rising characteristics than virgo.

My dads ascendant is 29 degrees cancer (his entire first house is in leo) he physically looks more leo than cancer. He has strong features and amazingly thick hair.

"your sunny, extroverted disposition helps you gain the popular following you need. - See more at: http://astrology-numerology.com/housecusp-1st.html#Leo
This sounds exactly like him

Do you feel this is true for you guys with ascendants in late degrees.

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peregrine
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posted March 01, 2013 01:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tbh i cant tell. Ima 29 deg cancer mc. I also have a leo planet on mc.

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Kerosene
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posted March 01, 2013 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't you have a late scorpio asc?
Midheaven is what other people feel.
I think you seem more like leo midheaven, because of your bravado. Or it could just be the leo moon too.

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ScorpioMoon
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posted March 01, 2013 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpioMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am Pisces rising at 27.14 if I'm not mistaken. I can identify with Aries rising as well as Pisces especially because I have mars in Aries in the 1st house. But I think I m more Pisces.

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Bearee
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posted March 01, 2013 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bearee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ascendant is 27 degrees in Libra, so my 1st house is almost only Scorpio.
Yes, I do see some scorpionic characteristics, but I think it's more because of the Pluto in my 1st house and my Sun in the 8th house..

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bridgetostars23
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posted March 01, 2013 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bridgetostars23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ascendant is at 25 degrees Capricorn.
It's not that late but Aquarius is intercepted in their entirely.
I have 9 degrees of Pisces in there as well.

I am tall and blonde and Aquarius does say something about that. People do find me "different" or "eccentric" more so than they find me "conventional" or "conservative".

So maybe a combination.

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posted March 01, 2013 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Husband's Asc Node is at 28 degrees of Virgo as well. I have to agree, his first house is nearly all Libra, and he has much more in common with the traits ascribed to a Libra Rising, than a Virgo Rising. (note: my Virgo Asc Node is 7 degrees).

He has no planets in his 1st house, his Venus is cnj his Mercury in 4th house Capricorn. So there are very distinct traits that show in his appearance and personality, that I could say do appear (sound, play out), like those in both risings, but I believe the Libra traits show stronger with his appearance overall. The again, both sign rulers in his first house are tightly conjunct in another Earth sign. He's an earthly Sagittarius by appearance, but by nature he does have an airiness to him. I kind of imagine a full Libra Riser as being more social, that's the only thing he lacks... he's very anti-social. And, still Water dominant by element delineation with Pullen, yet, he does have Earth second to that. Contrary to the usual behavior of a Virgo Riser, he's not too keen on providing help and service to anyone... though he does have a strong tendency to critique... especially harsh... ugh. lol

I think, maybe with those who have late Ascendants the rulers in both signs within their 1st measure out how, (or how strong), and where the traits from both 1st house signs (each 1st house sign) will show. maybe??? ^^;

Our core nature around others is extremely different, although we share the same position for our chart ruler. I think at least some of this can be explained by his dual signs in 1st; that it comes down to both planets having rule, plus being in conjunction... same house and sign... each thing surely factors in, or so I feel. (note: His dominant planets are both of those rulers, and his sun's ruler... so Mercury, Jupiter, Venus - that order... compared to my dominance with Mercury, Jupiter, Moon)

I've known a lot of other Virgo Risers, and there are several here at LL, that I would really consider myself having more in common with, in a Virgo Rising way~ but, not so much with him...

that's my experience so far~ ^^

note too: He's a Dog (Year Pillar)=x, and Dog, while considered critical, it's liberal~ and corresponds with Western sign Libra... (His DM is Metal Horse though, *Fire Rat Hour, Water Rat Month* ~his Eastern placements are strangely perfect, since he's a Sagittarius Sun/Dom, Sadge=Rat... kekeke) Just adding, since it is interesting that he has that extra "umph" of Libra-like energy goin on. haha

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posted March 01, 2013 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bridgetostars23:
My ascendant is at 25 degrees Capricorn.
It's not that late but Aquarius is intercepted in their entirely.
I have 9 degrees of Pisces in there as well.

I am tall and blonde and Aquarius does say something about that. People do find me "different" or "eccentric" more so than they find me "conventional" or "conservative".

So maybe a combination.


im 28:50 degrees in Capricorn Ascendant (round it up and its 29) and people think im weird, different AND conventional and prudish... how funny is that. also uranus is in my 1st and neptune is in my 1st too. No wonder why I am so different

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Kerosene
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posted March 01, 2013 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting you guys! I feel the Asc is like your true persona and the 1st house is like the mask you wear. The way you want others to see you,

Definitely my dad is sensitive like a cancer, also like overly protective and extremely moody. Everyone else loves him, strangers are like so drawn to him...
Nobody can hate a leo persona right? (except me, but it is hard because they can be so wonderful....)

Interesting angelina has 28 degrees cancer asc which would give her a leo first house!

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posted March 01, 2013 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo rising, rather late!!

Virgo house, I probably definitely look more Virgooey than Leo. Mercury influencing the first house; androgynous.

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Kerosene
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posted March 01, 2013 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^YESSS You look so Virgoan! You have that analytical look about you, also Virgos are known for their androgyny.

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posted March 01, 2013 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend of mine has Scorp ascendant at 29 degrees. She looks so Sag it's not even funny...

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KarkaQueen
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posted March 01, 2013 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Interesting you guys! I feel the Asc is like your true persona and the 1st house is like the mask you wear. The way you want others to see you,

Definitely my dad is sensitive like a cancer, also like overly protective and extremely moody. Everyone else loves him, strangers are like so drawn to him...
Nobody can hate a leo persona right? (except me, but it is hard because they can be so wonderful....)

Interesting angelina has 28 degrees cancer asc which would give her a leo first house!


my dad is a 28 degree gemini rising and he looks young for his age and pale skinned (hes black so thats saying A LOT)

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Kerosene
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posted March 01, 2013 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^
My friend is black and he's paler than me..
He's a cancer moon. I have a feeling he's a cancer rising too.
He just does not know his birth time..

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posted March 01, 2013 07:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Don't you have a late scorpio asc?
Midheaven is what other people feel.
I think you seem more like leo midheaven, because of your bravado. Or it could just be the leo moon too.

very early. 0. it seems that way but i read the cancer descriptions and it applies too.

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posted March 01, 2013 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyKitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Late decan AC manifest as the next sign , there are a theory about this too . I'm a late decan Virgo , my general appearance look like libra more than virgo.

Here is quite good article for Virgo Ac
http://www.elbertwade.com/page103.html

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rhia
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posted March 02, 2013 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rhia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a late Sagittarius ascendant and I don't really relate with Sag asc very much, although I do have Uranuns/ Neptune/ Juno conjunct asc which might be partly responsible. I can definitely identify with some of the Cap asc characteristics though.

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Kerosene
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posted March 02, 2013 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LovelyKitty:
Late decan AC manifest as the next sign , there are a theory about this too . I'm a late decan Virgo , my general appearance look like libra more than virgo.

Here is quite good article for Virgo Ac
http://www.elbertwade.com/page103.html



Nope not all risings signs have the last decan as the ruler of the next sign.
Decans are associate with the energy of three signs in the same element.
For virgo it happens to be taurus which essentially has nothing to do with libra.
The last decan for cancer is pisces which has nothing to do with the sun or leo.

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posted March 02, 2013 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People with late degree ASCs progress into the next sign fairly quickly. So it isn't horribly strange for them to have the characteristics and life experiences of someone with an ASC in the next sign. Though a person is born with the perspective of ASC in Gemini 29(for example), their childhood experiences are associated with the early degrees of ASC Cancer.

Another thing to consider is birth time. If a person is estimating their birth time, they could actually have natal ASC in the early degrees of a sign, instead of the late degrees of it's predecessor.

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posted March 02, 2013 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a late Gemini ascendant at 27 something degrees. I think I look more mercurial than lunar, even if I have Cancer in the entire first house and the moon conjuncting the midheaven. I do, however, identify with both gemini and canerian traits.

Maybe my ascendant is not late enough? XD

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posted March 02, 2013 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lunae:
I have a late Gemini ascendant at 27 something degrees. I think I look more mercurial than lunar, even if I have Cancer in the entire first house and the moon conjuncting the midheaven. I do, however, identify with both gemini and canerian traits.

Maybe my ascendant is not late enough? XD


My ASC progressed from Aries 17 degrees to Taurus, when I was about 9 years old. I have always had that essential Aries ASC energy that my natal placements give me, but from age 9 to just last year, the way I projected myself became very Taurian. I went from an insane extrovert to a staunch introvert, I gained weight, lost interest in remaining active, and generally expressed myself in a deeper, richer, and heavier way (lots more happened, but I could start a thread on all the uncanny subtleties). All of that arose from an Arian foundation, but I definitely experienced a more Tauren ASC type of situation growing up.

Progressed charts don't cancel out our natal roots, they just add an interesting filter to our evolving, developing self. Finding my age at the time of progression was helpful for me. My ASC just progressed into Gemini and though it is obvious I have ASC Aries, so many Geminian flavored energies have sprouted in my personality. It's actually what caused me to look up my progressed ASC. I was surprised to notice how strongly I could detect each energy as it evolved.

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posted March 02, 2013 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ASC in Cancer at 23 degrees, around 67% of first house is in Leo, for most part of my youth i behaved more like a gutsy Leo (jumping on moving trains, climbing on tall places, jumping fences in to private proprieties - just for the fun of it, for the adrenaline you get - while being chased by dogs - hahaha ) than a Cancer. ^^ Then again... i have Jupiter and Uranus in House 5/Sagittarius - both in conjunction... so, that explains it - i guess. I mean - first i learned how to run... and only later i learned how to walk. ^^

Kerosene - maybe most of your memories of your father are beyond the age of 30.. at the age of 30 his ASC moves in Leo, which can make his Leo nature prominent as well.

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Kerosene
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posted March 02, 2013 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ LOL Nope I've seen PLENTY photos of him as young man. He was even more glamourous then. He has more pictures of himself than I do, and I have a webcam. He looked like a movie hero in his photos hahaa. Thats a such a leo trait.

Also that girl virgo girl is my age so her asc should still be in virgo. She's just very libran and airy.
Its only logical if the entire first house is in another sign rather than the actual sign of asc the influences from that sign taking over the first house would effect the person more.
I just wanted to see how many other people feel it.

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posted March 02, 2013 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could you post his chart? - maybe "it's from something else". ^^

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posted March 03, 2013 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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