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Jessica2407
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posted March 04, 2013 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus in scorp,makes lots of aspects in my chart. I don't even go out on dates. I can't imagine wasting my time and energy on having a relationship with someone if he is not going to be serious with me.

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PixieJane
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posted March 04, 2013 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to think it was Uranus in Libra or Sag (also Eros in Sag), but now I don't think astrology determines that...too many with those placements would never consider open relationships or any other alternative paradigm, while various types of alternative paradigms have been around a very long time showing that it's not limited to those 2 placements (and I'm not even including arranged marriages among the wealthy & nobility where it seems to me that more often than not it was expected that the spouses kept lovers on the side, sometimes men even supported boytoys for their wives in addition to supporting their own mistresses...or boytoys of their own).

So now I think what astrology has to offer on this is WHY someone would embrace an alternative paradigm, or reject it. For example, a Sagittarius Uranus MIGHT decide to embrace an alternative as part of desire for adventure, independence (offering breathing space) while boldly embracing new paradigms & philosophies whereas a Leo Uranus, IF embracing such an alternative, would be seeking to assert his own will over that of society, show he makes his own rules and doesn't bend to the rules & customs of society, and because he gets excited when others talk about him ("Did you hear, the cad shacked up with 3 women, 2 of them sisters!"), and if in one of the societies where monogamy was unusual might actually be monogamous instead to show himself different & defiant to the society he sees himself as better than.

That said, I agree with what someone said above that it makes sense that people with a lot of air in their chart would be the most likely to accept it (though I could see heavy fire not wanting to be tied down to wanting "a lot of wood to burn" or a lot of earth accepting it if it came with financial benefits).

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posted March 04, 2013 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cappy1277:
I'm a very much one man woman with a Gemini moon & Venus Aquarius ��

Me too! Aquarius Moon, Gemini Venus here!

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Got Gemini??
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posted March 04, 2013 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a male with triple air Sun/Moon/Merc. I am not into any form of sharing my woman. I'm not even into "triads" with my woman and another woman when I'm in a relationship. I'm definitely a one woman man.

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I'm so cappy
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posted March 04, 2013 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Uranus in scorp,makes lots of aspects in my chart. I don't even go out on dates. I can't imagine wasting my time and energy on having a relationship with someone if he is not going to be serious with me.

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Haplesschild*
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posted March 04, 2013 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Got Gemini??:
I'm a male with triple air Sun/Moon/Merc. I am not into any form of sharing my woman. I'm not even into "triads" with my woman and another woman when I'm in a relationship. I'm definitely a one woman man.


Lol but you got a cancer Venus which makes you a sortie and Virgo mars which makes you selective so it's no wonder.

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posted March 04, 2013 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by miranda:
Back when they were ... normal?


You're right. This is a couple (well, now a triad) who own a pet tarantula. They've never been all that normal. I retract that statement.

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posted March 04, 2013 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My limbs would be dismembered while I'm alive. Then my liver would be served with fava beans. My face would meet a Callaway Big Bertha titanium driver. My body would be run over by a 10 ton truck, and reversed and forward ten cycles over. Then I would be tied to the top of the Brooklyn Bridge and hung for the world to see. And, therefore, it isn't part of the game plan.

What exactly am I supposed to say? Look honey.. there are these 10 other women that I would like to... naw... won't work.

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posted March 04, 2013 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TaurusInParticles:
The Moon or Venus in Gemini or Aquarius bring polyamory to my mind. Uranus in Libra or Scorpio implies a quirky relationship. Jupiter in Aries, Leo or Scorpio makes me think of lots of sex

Venus in Aquarius, Gemini Moon, and Jupiter in Aries here.

Yes, I much rather have "lots of sex" with Mary Palm and her five sisters (sometimes together with Maggie Palm, Mary's cousin, and her five sisters) than have more than one woman. Yeah, that's my anatomical polyamory....

To my cheap a$$ greedy Capricorn mind, one woman constitutes way too much expenditure in the first place. Maintaining one woman is obnoxious enough.

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posted March 04, 2013 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Actually, I know a triad (don't hang out with them much, I liked the couple better back when they were normal) and they consist of a Capricorn, Taurus, and a Pisces. But the Capricorn, who started it all, has a Gemini moon.

Yeah. Capricorn with a Gemini Moon here. No triads here, unless you are referring to organized crime lol.. just kidding

Which ever woman is suggested to be the third party in the said triad would be quickly and silently taken out, so the triad wouldn't even exist in my realm of reality

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posted March 04, 2013 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus and Moon in Gemini right here.

Open relationships whether they are polyandrous or allow the partner to engage in emotional or sexual connections with another person doesn't interest me.

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posted March 04, 2013 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know how my maternal grandpa did it. He had four (legit and legal) wives and eight concubines. And the key part is that *all* the women agreed to that arrangement and pecking order.

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posted March 04, 2013 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
Lol but you got a cancer Venus which makes you a sortie and Virgo mars which makes you selective so it's no wonder.

Oh Hapless, you read me like a book lol

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ScorpioMoon
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posted March 04, 2013 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpioMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most people are saying air signs and Uranus would be interested in open relationships. I was thinking the same thing when i read the title. "One might need a fair amount of objectivity to be in an open relationship." Who's best at objectivity? Air signs! lol

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posted March 04, 2013 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:

Forgot to mention - the open relationship concept only applies to me, he is never alliwed to even look at another female specimen.

Girl, I've got to give you a high five on this one! I'm with you on this.

My friend's husband, a Pisces, gave her 'permission' to sleep with other guys. They had a couple of threesomes. Apparently, it 'turned him on' to see her with other guys. I was like, "You're living the dream, you lucky ***** !".

But then he dumped her and they got divorced last year. She said the sex-with-other-men situation had something to do with it, but it was his darned idea! lol wtf..

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posted March 04, 2013 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starfairy:
Girl, I've got to give you a high five on this one! I'm with you on this.

Hi5 :-) Loves ya


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posted March 04, 2013 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cap sun and venus, aries moon.

The idea of polygamy interests me. Occasionally I do think about being in a relationship with two men – mainly because I’m curious. But I know better than to talk about it with my other half. He’d have me drawn and quartered in the messiest way possible. And in reality, I can barely handle one partner. Having two would be just too much. If I did something wrong, I’d have two people gunning for me, instead of just one. So yeah, no “open relationship” for me.

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posted March 05, 2013 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who knows what placements indicate this!

Well, my boyfriend still hangs out with his ex and we all hang out together sometimes. But that's cuz I trust him and she likes me and I like her.

I never thought I would be cool with something like this. I get jealous of their colorful past and the fact that she was there first, but it's not gut-churning jealousy. My guard is still up for any funny business (Capricorn sun/Scorpio Moon) but it's all good for the most part.

My Venus is in Pisces.

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posted March 05, 2013 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, gross, only for people who are in a silly relationship and not in true love.

~Moon in Taurus, Venus in Gemini

I know a Cappy Moon, Venus Aqua guy and Gemini Moon and Venus Libra girl who loves that stuff. of course the relationship is b.s but yea

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

That doesn't strictly speaking, make any actual sense. Aquarius is ruled by Uranus and co-ruled by Saturn. Aquarius is a sign; it doesn't rule anything.


How does it not make sense? Re read what your saying too..
Aquarius is "co ruled" , but still ruled by saturn, so yeah not all aquarians will be open and curious about other lifestyles because saturn is very conservative by nature.

You prove that saturn has influence over aquarius because uranus when aspecting or conjunction with personal planets it is very dynamic and unusual.. So if aquarius was only influenced by uranus then you would not vomit on other peoples lifestyles :P

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posted March 05, 2013 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
edit.. im not causing a sh**storm lol

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posted March 05, 2013 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, so apparently Tilda Swinton has an open marriage. Don't know if this is 100% true, but it seems to be written everywhere..

Anyway, her planets:

Sun conjunct Mercury conjunct Neptune in Scorpio
Venus in Sag
Moon in Gemini

I can definitely see how Neptune might figure into an open relationship scenario. My friend had an open marriage with her Pisces guy for a while (he wasn't allowed to see anyone else, but she was! Lucky b-tch...). Anyway, he said he did it because he wanted her to 'have fun'. He was in the army at the time, and didn't want her to feel 'lonely' when he was away. He was very selfless and, er, compassionate in that way!

I can also see Sag and Gem because these signs thrive on variety and aren't particularly possessive.

And yes, I know we all know a Pisces, Gem, or Sag who would never have an open relationship, blah, blah, blah it depends on the rest of the chart.

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posted March 05, 2013 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starfairy:

And yes, I know we all know a Pisces, Gem, or Sag who would never have an open relationship, blah, blah, blah it depends on the rest of the chart.


I was just thinking that so many people with Gemini planets have posted saying "no" to open relationships, and there are people posting around them saying, "Gemini!"

I know a Pisces who is poly. She is no longer in a relationship, but she was engaged to a poly guy. She has Venus in Taurus, and Uranus transited her Sun when she started the lifestyle, but I have Uranus planets aspecting my personal planets, and noooo for me.

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posted March 05, 2013 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you have to have the right natal *plus* synastry for this.

I have the natal for it. I'm open to open relationships..
Mars conj Neptune in the 7th
Venus & Sun in the 11th
Merc square Uranus

But generally, I'm just not interested in having a relationship at all - open or closed - unless it really feels *right*... we need to click, he has to be someone I trust and can count on, someone I have a strong friendship and emotional connection with.
I do not take my relationships lightly - so that word is serious to me.
But when it comes to sex... I'm a "sex is just sex" person. I place no emotional value on this.
I mean if he went and had a full blown relationship behind my back and claimed to be in love with us both - then I'd kill him.. of course.
But lets get back to - *sex is just sex* ... LOL

In synastry I would want us to have - Sun/Sun aspects, Moon/Moon, Sun/Moon, Sun/Moon 2 Saturn and Venus/Pluto involved.
I would want to feel completely emotionally tied to this person - otherwise I probably wouldn't agree to a relationship at all, let alone an open one.

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posted March 05, 2013 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Re: Tilda Swinton

So, apparently she has/had a live-in boyfriend, Sandro Kopp.

His Planets:

Sun in Mercury in Aqua (mhmm)
Venus in Pisces
Moon in Taurus
Mars in Cancer

He has: Sun conjunct Venus and Mars
Sun and Venus trine Jupiter
Sun and Venus opposite Saturn
Uranus square Sun and Mercury, Uranus trine Mars
Pluto square Mars

And her main man is/was John Byrne (don't know if they're still together)

His planets:

Sun in Capricorn
Moon in Sag
Venus in Aqua
Mars in Aries conjunct Jupiter

Venus square Uranus (mmhmm!)
Mars opposite Neptune (yep!)
Mars trine Pluto

Synastry-wise, I don't know house overlays or moon aspects (no birth times for either), but here are some notable aspects:

His Uranus opposes her Sun and Mercury
His Neptune squares her Venus, and HER Neptune squares his Venus!
His Saturn trines her Venus, squares her Mars
His Jupiter squares her Jupiter
Her Jupiter squares his Mars
Her Saturn is conjunct his Sun
Her Uranus is square his Uranus (20-year age difference)

Not surprisingly, they don't seem to have much Pluto!

I can definitely see how strong Neptune contacts can figure into an open relationship.. Lots of idealization, overlooking flaws, self-sacrificing, only seeing the good in one another, etc..

Tilda and Sandro have very interesting synastry:

His Uranus is conjunct her Sun and Mercury, and trine her Mars
Her Uranus is opposite his sun, possibly square his Moon, opposite his Mercury, opposite his Venus, conjunct his Saturn.
His Jupiter is opposite her Venus and Jupiter
Her Jupiter is sextile his Venus

That's a whole lotta Uranus!

In Tilda's chart, she has Uranus possibly squaring her Gemini Moon, square her Mercury, trine her Venus. Her Mars is opposite Saturn.

Sooooooooo... there are definitely strong Uranus and Aqua influences in their natal charts and synastry. Makes total sense. Uranus is unconventional, after all (and yes, I know we all know someone with tons of Uranus in their chart who would never do this, blah, blah, blah depends on the rest of the chart)

Oh, and I looked at Tilda and John's Composite:

Venus opposite Uranus
Mars square Pluto
Mars square Jupiter
Saturn square Sun and Mercury
Venus square Neptune

Tilda and Sandro's Composite:

Uranus square Sun/Mercury
Pluto square Sun/Mercury (Uranus and Pluto are conjunct)
Jupiter opposite Uranus/Pluto
Jupiter square Sun/Mercury
Venus opposite Mars

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