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Topic: Venus-Pluto obssessed love synastry
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 1855 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted March 11, 2013 05:03 PM
It never lasts. You should be warry when you see the hard aspect, not obsessing over it.IP: Logged |
curious girl Knowflake Posts: 108 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted March 13, 2013 01:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: It never lasts. You should be warry when you see the hard aspect, not obsessing over it.
Why does it never last? It is often very difficult not to obsess with Pluto hard aspects. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9168 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 13, 2013 01:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: It never lasts. You should be warry when you see the hard aspect, not obsessing over it.
You can't generalize like that. Some people have successful marriages with Venus/Pluto (YTA, my aunt, for example). It's probably better if natally the people also have a Venus/Pluto aspect but nothing is ever doomed, imo.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 15413 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 13, 2013 02:51 PM
It has its challenges, but there`s no reason why it wouldn´t last. If it doesn`t, there is usually something else coming into play, too, that tilts the scale to the "I can`t bear anymore of this".One example where it lasted was Johnny Cash and June Carter (her Pluto was tightly square his Venus). Another one was Paul Newman and JOanne Woodward (her Pluto opposed his Venus; his Pluto trined her Venus and was sitting on her DESC). warren Beatty and Anette Bening: his Pluto tightly square her Venus For Meryl Streep and her hus band its her Pluto square his Venus There are more examples if you use conjunction and trine, too.
However I am sure there will be also examples for couples with Venus/Pluto who did not last. My point is that it is not this one aspect alone that decides that (or shows that). IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag Knowflake Posts: 1190 From: Your imagination Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 07:07 AM
What about the quintile aspect? Will this be felt the same? IP: Logged |
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posted February 06, 2014 07:55 AM
I guess i might as well update. He came back to my daughter and has been a good dad again like he use to be. His wife treats my daughter good so no grudges.I still love him though ;( IP: Logged |
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posted February 06, 2014 08:02 AM
The Devil Card in the Tarot deck is symbolic of some of the types of feelings we have when in a relationship with someone when we have a Venus/Pluto Conjunction. We may feel so completely bonded to this person in an almost obsessive way. Because of this obsession we will often feel tied down or stifled by the intensity of this energy almost as if it is against our will! We often merge with this person on a very deep level losing our independence and allowing ourselves to be controlled and enslaved to this addictive feeling of sexual love. When we become addictive in our love patterns we often get caught up in appearances and the physical part of the relationship. We begin to limit ourselves, choosing to stay in the dark about other areas of the relationship. When we neglect seeing other areas of the relationship we can start to think negatively about seeing the relationship without this passionate energy and the intensity of the connection. We can become stuck in fear and doubt at this point.
I have had my own experiences in relationships with Venus Pluto contacts and if you read Linda Goodmans Relationships Signs books she emphasizes Venus/Pluto as "soulmate" or "twin soul" aspect...there is a very intense and deep love between the parties. It isn't only the Venus person who is doing the loving..the Pluto person is loving the Venus person but with a more "transformative" and intense/possessive love..usually the Venus person is overwhelmed, allured, attracted, consumed, and petrified all at the same time!! It is a vey intense and passionate encounter. When Venus Pluto conjunct in synastry usually other people "see" how in love the two are without any words between the couple..they could walk down the street and others will simply be envious and take notice!! It's an amazing thing! Pluto connections are always intensely transformative. When we are in a relationship with another where there is a Venus/Pluto conjunction...our lives, for better or for worse...will never be the same. Here are some keywords to assist you in better understanding the energy of the planet Venus: Love, feeling, harmony, relationships, ability to give and take, longing and desire for union, sensory pleasures such as in five senses, beauty, sensuality, aesthetic peception, art, talents, good taste, the throat and neck, being vain, temptation, focusing on external factors, what we value, money and how we earn it. Venus is the feminine energy principle in the birth chart. Here are some keywords to assist you in better understanding the energy of the planet Pluto: Deep transformation, the depths, darkness, the source, underground, beneath, psyhological forces, our instincts, power, control, helplessness, dependency, intensity of strength, drive for far reaching and deep changes in self and in others, healing forces, hypnotic, destructive, sadistic, sexual organs, sex, the occult,compulsions, obsession and emotional entanglement. Pluto's deep transformative energy principle is responsible for making long lasting and much needed changes in our lives. http://www.karmicastrology.info/synastry.htm
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posted February 06, 2014 08:04 AM
Funny, everytime old feelings towards him start creeping up i start getting the devil and the lovers tarot card.IP: Logged |
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posted February 06, 2014 08:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by NeptunianSag: What about the quintile aspect? Will this be felt the same?
From what I researched yes. It seems as if quintile is considered important. It was usually brushed off as a minor aspect. Easy going energy. IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag Knowflake Posts: 1190 From: Your imagination Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 08:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by Venusian Moon: From what I researched yes. It seems as if quintile is considered important. It was usually brushed off as a minor aspect. Easy going energy.
Hmm I always had a feeling the quintile aspect played a part in my relationship. He was Pluto, I was Venus, he now thinks I am a tacky sl*t and my love just isn't good enough for him :/ I still think he tries to Persue me though in a subtle and manipulative way. IP: Logged |
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posted February 06, 2014 09:42 AM
Yeah there are times where they give off little hints showing they are still interested. When my ex picked up the baby the other day...he was playing my favorite song and had it ready starting from the begining. Not a coincidence. I had posted it on my facebook page the other day and i know he saw it because he admitted to me once he always googles my name and i google him too. Im still obsessed ;( The akward part was that his wife was in the library getting some books. She came out after.
This is all a big mess. Do u have any other pluto aspects with this guy? Me and my ex also have mars conjunct pluto, pluto sextile neptune, pluto trine sun.
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NeptunianSag Knowflake Posts: 1190 From: Your imagination Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 06, 2014 11:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Venusian Moon: Yeah there are times where they give off little hints showing they are still interested. When my ex picked up the baby the other day...he was playing my favorite song and had it ready starting from the begining. Not a coincidence. I had posted it on my facebook page the other day and i know he saw it because he admitted to me once he always googles my name and i google him too. Im still obsessed ;( The akward part was that his wife was in the library getting some books. She came out after.
This is all a big mess. Do u have any other pluto aspects with this guy? Me and my ex also have mars conjunct pluto, pluto sextile neptune, pluto trine sun.
Yes, we have Pluto: conjunct mars, inconjunct moon, square Chiron, Conjunct Eros, square Saturn, semisextile sun. It's very hot feeling, but also quite abusive really, we live long distance away and rarely contact. We have Nessus-dejanira and bad Neptune involved, so it's better to leave the relationship alone. He told me once he had thoughts of hurting me, that's when our relationship ended, he has a Scorpio stellium, afflicted Aries moon, afflicted Venus, he has mother issues. IP: Logged |
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posted February 06, 2014 12:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by NeptunianSag: Yes, we have Pluto: conjunct mars, inconjunct moon, square Chiron, Conjunct Eros, square Saturn, semisextile sun. It's very hot feeling, but also quite abusive really, we live long distance away and rarely contact. We have Nessus-dejanira and bad Neptune involved, so it's better to leave the relationship alone. He told me once he had thoughts of hurting me, that's when our relationship ended, he has a Scorpio stellium, afflicted Aries moon, afflicted Venus, he has mother issues.
Oh wow that's crazy! Better off without him. IP: Logged |
summerlite Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted February 06, 2014 04:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
I have had my own experiences in relationships with Venus Pluto contacts and if you read Linda Goodmans Relationships Signs books she emphasizes Venus/Pluto as "soulmate" or "twin soul" aspect...there is a very intense and deep love between the parties. It isn't only the Venus person who is doing the loving..the Pluto person is loving the Venus person but with a more "transformative" and intense/possessive love..usually the Venus person is overwhelmed, allured, attracted, consumed, and petrified all at the same time!! It is a vey intense and passionate encounter. When Venus Pluto conjunct in synastry usually other people "see" how in love the two are without any words between the couple..they could walk down the street and others will simply be envious and take notice!! It's an amazing thing!
Really? Soulmates? IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 6034 From: Love Street, she lingers long on Love Street.. Registered: May 2009
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posted February 06, 2014 10:15 PM
How is it different, do you think, with the trine versus the square?His Venus trines my Pluto -0.23 His Pluto squares my Venus 0.26 This person I met when I was very young and I remember being extremely drawn to him but yet pi$$ed off about it all the time, because he always could read me and he was always accurate. It was like I couldn't hide anything and I hated that. We had a sexual relationship and every time we did it I would say I was never doing it again, but then I would see him, and lose all resolve... I ended up getting back together with my boyfriend of 4 years and never spoke with ^ that guy again until this past Sept. I don't feel the same was as I did when I was younger (as far as ... now I LIKE the fact that he knows what I am feeling, and I don't have to put up walls or whatever... I'm just concerned. I keep getting The Devil card and The Tower card and it sometimes feels like we have no control over what will happen. It's intense and complicated. IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Moderator Posts: 2469 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 10, 2014 02:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Venusian Moon: Why would i be upset at society? LolHis wife forbids him from seeing her. He listens. I dont know what she threatened him with. He use to bring her to his house all the time and she would play with her brothers.
His wife called my 4 year old a b@$t@rd once. He use to contact me alot. We have a child. We would have to talk. We remained best friends after everything was over.
She found out he called me months ago and blew up.
Must have been very bad. We dont contact eachother like we use to anymore.
I spoke to him on the phone 2 months ago when he called. He wanted to know if i still loved him and seemed sad i have moved on with someone else.
Then he spoke to the baby. Thats about it. Saw him in court last week. Will see him again in april. Its not good for us to be alone together.
The attraction is intense. My mars is in his 8th house. We also have mars conjunct venus. He is a scorpio/sag cusp, taurus moon, libra venus, and sag mars I am gemini/cancer cusp, taurus moon, taurus venus,libra mars. And yes i am still upset about it. I met him when i was 24.
I remember i got a psychic reading when i was 21. For free. She saw a tan skinned man dancing with a little girl. She said it wasnt a baby but a toddler ;( Hes not a bad man we just met at the wrong time.
He treated me like a queen.
I was very sick when i was pregnant because i was a vegan and everything made me barf! He took care of me very well. I will never forget the first day we saw eachother.
He always said no matter what happened between us we would always have something that is a part of us.....the baby that we made with love. *shrugs shoulders
Whatever
Awwww My parents have Venus Conjunct Pluto in both their synastrys I hope to one day have a relationship with this aspect too.. IP: Logged |
Crowded 12th house Newflake Posts: 7 From: Netherlands Registered: Dec 2013
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posted March 29, 2014 02:37 PM
Hi,I have a venus conjunct pluto in synastry with someone who does not know me. Orb 0.17 degrees. I’m soooooooooo in love, and I am venus and definitely obsessed but in a funny positive way I guess. Further I have exactly the same trine but with different planets: My trine: Venus, Mars, Saturn This person’s trine: Venus, Pluto, Jupiter In synastry: Venus conjunct Pluto orb 0.17 Mars conjunct Jupiter orb 0.08 Saturn conjunct venus orb 0.13 So if you draw a triangle and put the planets in conjunct on each corner you can see how many combinations it has in trine in synastry: venus trine mars, mars trine Pluto, Venus trine Jupiter and so on…. Oh did I mention sun in 7th house, sun in 8th house, venus in 7th house double whammy, mars in 5th house, moon in 1st house close to the asc, all in synastry, sun conjunct vertex, venus conjunct vertex… ooooh my god. The good news is that it’s a celeb, and as a 12th house person who does not feel comfortable in the limelight it’s good to know we are never going to meet LOL My everlasting unrequited love of my life and beyond. LOL
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LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1075 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted March 30, 2014 04:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by Venusian Moon: Synastry [URL=http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w365/nenitaj1/astro_61gw_01_02_jenny_kelvy.gif
Ah.... Venus opp Sun! That does it for me every time! I wasn't going to comment, because really, I don't "feel" pluto as a planet. I've had people all over my pluto and vice versa and usually there's not much going on. BUT once my Venus touches someone's sun, I'm toast! It's a 12H Scorpio Venus so there is obviously pluto involved. Just the planet alone doesn't do anything.
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amidjang Newflake Posts: 4 From: Seattle WA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted July 03, 2014 03:22 AM
Wow, I can totally relate with this! Amazing how intense this aspect can be.Few months ago, my buddy asked me whether I want to hook up with this one single girl. I said OK, but after my big project is done (in few months). All it takes was 1 picture of her. That's it I can't get her out of my head, and I don't even know her, yet! I can't stop thinking, dreaming about her, up to the point that it's getting annoying and bothering my professional life. I wonder, what kind of feeling is this, so unusual and useless/waste my time but I can't let it go. I keep telling myself "Dude, you don't even know her, why would you waste your time with this "burden"?" Curious to the max, I finally checked our synastry, bam, Pluto trine Venus and Pluto sextile Venus... double whammy positive venus-pluto aspect, so I'm starting to do some research about this aspect and here I am. PS : I wonder if this annoying feeling appears on the her side as well, or do we need to actually know each other first before this aspect kicks in? Or am I just crazy? IP: Logged |
viiv28 Knowflake Posts: 123 From: kaspichan Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 03, 2014 06:51 AM
I have Pluto/Venus square with my boss. We have very turbulent and bad working relationship, with him being explosive demanding, unfair and hurting my feelings on many occasions. Also "punishing" me, banging on my brains. I went from being his "favorite" employee to being the "worst". I am the venus and he is the Pluto. Also I awake the worst sides of him without wanting to. So I really think this is a dangerous/bad and unpredictable aspect, in which Venus is "screwed". IP: Logged |
iliketurtles Knowflake Posts: 351 From: 2099 Registered: Nov 2010
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posted July 03, 2014 03:49 PM
^^ omg that sucks. don't worry, he'll miss you when you're gonepluto is a dick when it can't have its own way? IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 2647 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 25, 2014 02:45 PM
I think obsession shows when someone no longer listens to their rational mind and only listens to the impulses of their feelings regarding a person. It goes deep and its like when someone knows everything about your life, pain, happiness and wants to know it all too.. they force themselves into your life and don't care what you think about it because thats what they want so they are doing it. I'm going through this now, and this guy is seriously obsessive. He has Venus in 12 Taurus square 18 Mars/ 16 Saturn/ 12 Pluto in Leo and this sextiles my 14 Venus/ 19 Mercury in Gemini. Also my Pluto 9 in Scorpio is opposite his Venus. I sense this guy is used to death and gosh its so creepy. His gf died awhile back while pregnant and i think this is intense for what he has (venus square mars, saturn, pluto). i think i am her and he knows it and thats why he is doing this to me. IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 219 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 25, 2014 05:35 PM
I feel like this aspect may only manifest if there are other supporting factors in the natals/synastry as well.One of my exes and I had the Venus square Pluto aspect in our synastry and though we dated for almost a year, our relationship never got off the ground. He never told me he loved me. We eventually parted ways and that was that, no lingering feelings. In my "easiest" relationship to date we had the Moon sextile Pluto aspect in our synastry and we felt very deeply for each, never questioned our feelings for one another and I trusted him 100%, but it was never obsessive. Our split was amicable and we still remain friends to this day. In my current relationship we have Sun trine Pluto, Mercury square Pluto and Mars square Pluto but no Venus. Can these aspects manifest in the same way as the Venus/Pluto? I would say our relationship is very intense but that goes without saying. I have Venus square Pluto natally so I am very familiar with the energy (it sucks lol). His natal is also ridden with Pluto aspects. IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 36 From: Miami, FL Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 25, 2014 05:47 PM
Mmmmm..... Roll my eyes. I dont like hard venus/pluto aspect. I have it natally(venus square pluto) and it sucks. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 2647 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 25, 2014 07:10 PM
How does Venus square pluto manifest in your lives? I thought about it and i think these people may be very serious about matters of love. like they would be celibate for a long time and when the time came for them to sleep with another it would be a very serious matter for them.
i think its about sexual repression leading to all kinds of crazy urges when love strikes. what do you think? IP: Logged | |