posted March 06, 2013 06:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Little Doe:
If we really want to we can have seductive personalities, and thatīs probably the best thing about having scorp asc.

But the games are pretty bad. Iīll play games even with myself to the point where I have no idea what my real intentions are. Itīs crazy.

Iīm so afraid of rejection that I wonīt even admit to myself that I like someone. Iīl brainwash myself into thinking that I donīt care or despise them. Untill one day I either go nuts, or meet someone else who I fall harder for and then the brainwashing starts over again.

Iīve been protecting myself from rejection and feeling powerless this way for meny years..

Idk if itīs just the asc thing though.

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Omg yes this is true on my part as well. Why? I hate that about me i feel crazy at times i definitely hide my feelings

posted March 06, 2013 06:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
I dont want to be mysterious. Seriously.
I dont like all those immature and childish games, but I realize and often get told that Im very mysterious and secretive.

I am.

I just need to be secure and feel like the person sitting across from me is a good soul and not some random nut case that would take my info and use it against me or to hurt me.

Im protective of myself.

I think we do have a dual personality.

I am a lot different with strangers, loved ones and then the guys I love.

I ...honestly change a lot personality and lookwise so that might add to the mystery.

: / We all evolve right? Nothing is ever set in stone.

But I dont find it cute that people have such huge egos that they need to play those dumb games like...*hey babe, look at me Im sexy....muah.* Bull. Just seems insecure and really dumb.

If that is a scorpio rising trait, I dont have it. lol

Oh and about being tight lipped...I always think that I want a guy who understands me. Not everything ought to be explained. Like if a guy is online flirting with a girl and says...*What? Are you upset? Mad? Sad? Did I do something?* I think....*Yes idiot you did.* But I say *No.* And if he presses me more....I just feel like why should I have to tell him that he is being an A ** hole? It defeats the purpose of getting to know the REAL person he is if I keep changing and directing him to be the guy I want. It never works that way. So why do we ever attempt to change another? So I dont see the point in telling him...*Hey yeah, you are being a jerk....maybe you should change.* He should already know that some things are stupid and to not do them.

I basically just keep a silent tally, and when I have had it, I have had it.

I tried that whole....explain to him how to treat you and letting him know all the things that hurt me. Open communication. It didnt work. I would never waste my emotion, time and energy doing that again. All I got was a guy, who eventually didnt give a damn. lol...He would change at first and not do those things but you can never change something unless it is from deep within...and unless you have the interest, desire and awareness that it is not a good trait to have yourself. People only ever change for themselves ....never for someone else. Even if they change it is temporary...

So why bother right? hehe.

I think that is where the tight lipped and secretive nature comes in.

Also...I know that I am more sensitive (Moon in first house too). But ...also I would think that most scorpios have walls because we are so emotional and when we give we give our whole hearts and purely. So when someone hurts us ...at least for me...it is excruciating. Though....we pretend it doesnt affect us. I cant tell you how many times I have cried post breakup....and for how many hours...but I wont show anyone...not even the guy, family nor friends. I have some pride...hehe

Eventually I do resent the person who hurt me....If a person hurt me in such a vulnerable state....and wanted to get back with me....omg....he would have some major work to do. The second time around it gets harder for the other people to win us over...we are totally on attack mode and have a lower tolerance and stronger walls.

I am not ashamed to say that ....I would like to see a person who hurt me badly suffer the same consequence. I would. Karma? Idk but to know that person might be suffering makes me feel better. That is not a benevolent position I know...but neither was the other persons stance when they hurt me. So...fair game I say.

I know that I *can* be manipulative, vengeful, cold-hearted...scary. I can strike hard and make it really painful for the other person. They might think that they are on good terms with me but....no.lol

So if someone was a major enemy...yeah I would give that person hell....but...even those that have hurt me...so far...I have never hurt or had to strike back with my full potential.

But again I know I can.
I have a cancer sun too. lol

Gosh...I wish I were more libra...aquarius... Life would be light and happier.

Also dont get me wrong if you dont promise use loyalty, genuine love, compassion and are just a random person we chit chat with....we are very light hearted...Just to people, who promise us love, care and loyalty....we expect that you hold your end of the bargain.

So....dont promise us anything and we wont expect anything and then....nothign happens...Again our bad side probably comes out when our deepest core has been touched and hurt.I think that goes for any human being...
And with a scorpio anything you will rarely get to that place. Seriosuly rarely...

And I think the good aspects though are....if we say we love you...we truly do. If we say we will be loyal we truly will.

We have a lot of care, compassion, love for those we hold dear. We will do almost anything for you.

Yes we are sexual. Yes we go all out romantically. But I think if you have a scorpio friend...those are the best kind. They will not ditch you or ever backstab you.

We are very servant like...when it comes to caring for someone. We would walk barefeet for miles with you on our backs if that made you happy. lol...

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Bless ur soul lmao u described me to a T. This is all true i felt ur every word with this one

posted March 06, 2013 09:57 PM            

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Originally posted by shybaby187:
Bless ur soul lmao u described me to a T. This is all true i felt ur every word with this one

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posted March 06, 2013 11:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
I started off with a concise description but....I couldnt stop. lol

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posted March 07, 2013 01:08 AM            

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Oh and about being tight lipped...I always think that I want a guy who understands me. Not everything ought to be explained. Like if a guy is online flirting with a girl and says...*What? Are you upset? Mad? Sad? Did I do something?* I think....*Yes idiot you did.* But I say *No.* And if he presses me more....I just feel like why should I have to tell him that he is being an A ** hole? It defeats the purpose of getting to know the REAL person he is if I keep changing and directing him to be the guy I want. It never works that way. So why do we ever attempt to change another? So I dont see the point in telling him...*Hey yeah, you are being a jerk....maybe you should change.* He should already know that some things are stupid and to not do them.

I basically just keep a silent tally, and when I have had it, I have had it.

I tried that whole....explain to him how to treat you and letting him know all the things that hurt me. Open communication. It didnt work. I would never waste my emotion, time and energy doing that again. All I got was a guy, who eventually didnt give a damn. lol...He would change at first and not do those things but you can never change something unless it is from deep within...and unless you have the interest, desire and awareness that it is not a good trait to have yourself. People only ever change for themselves ....never for someone else. Even if they change it is temporary...

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THIS!

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I know a lot of scorp risers they're the person that sits in the corner of the room. I would imagine bella swan being a scorp rising. I do think they are exaggerated.

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posted March 07, 2013 01:58 PM            

Yeah, I have the cliche sexy look. Yada...yada.

I have a Mercury in Leo and I have just learned to reign that in to communicate in a less dramatic and more effective way.

I don't like to play games with men, at all. And, I am not one to sit in the corner of a room and brood. I am open and friendly with a pretty good sense of humor. I like people. I don't want to isolate them from me.

My Sun sits in the ninth house and I am glad of that placement. It has made me more expansive and open minded then some of the more restrictive Cancer placements.

Scorpio Rising is a bit of a drag. I am sick of being so intense (thank god for the Taurus moon). Sexy scares the hell out of men unless they are just looking to play and they don't care about anything else. I have had to ask guys out first forever because they are intimidated and when we go out, they always say they really like me but thought I wouldn't want to go out with them because of the way I look! I dont like all the projections that get put on with a woman who has a sexy look, as if we are all dangerous femme fetales.

Yeah. Right. I just want to watch a movie and eat a bowl of homemade macaroni and cheese and snuggle. I am a toothless tiger!

posted March 07, 2013 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by rosedl:
Scorpio Rising Cancer Sun Taurus Moon

Yeah, I have the cliche sexy look. Yada...yada.

I have a Mercury in Leo and I have just learned to reign that in to communicate in a less dramatic and more effective way.

I don't like to play games with men, at all. And, I am not one to sit in the corner of a room and brood. I am open and friendly with a pretty good sense of humor. I like people. I don't want to isolate them from me.

My Sun sits in the ninth house and I am glad of that placement. It has made me more expansive and open minded then some of the more restrictive Cancer placements.

Scorpio Rising is a bit of a drag. I am sick of being so intense (thank god for the Taurus moon). Sexy scares the hell out of men unless they are just looking to play and they don't care about anything else. I have had to ask guys out first forever because they are intimidated and when we go out, they always say they really like me but thought I wouldn't want to go out with them because of the way I look! I dont like all the projections that get put on with a woman who has a sexy look, as if we are all dangerous femme fetales.

Yeah. Right. I just want to watch a movie and eat a bowl of homemade macaroni and cheese and snuggle. I am a toothless tiger!

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Haha same here.
Boring nights with hair tied in a bun and a huge blanket are the best.

I dont get the whole ...*come hither vibe* that people expect us to pull off.

I have scorpio moon and asc.

posted March 07, 2013 03:50 PM            

BUT I think itīs important, at least for me, to remember that not everyone is like me. Some people really DO try to change and compromise if they are TOLD HOW to. Thatīs rare though, but if I sense that omeone really does want to understand me, but canīt I will communicate. If however I feel like thereīs no point, I wonīt. We have a good intuition about these things often, but I think itīs important that we give people a chance.

Iīm not a grudge holder, nor do I wish karma will take care of the ones that have hurt me. Why`Because I belive that there is no wrong in the universe. Everyone is doing the best they can all the time. Life is full of suffering sometimes, thatīs just the way it is. Do what you an to protect yourself, love as much as you can and the rest is just lessons to be learned.

posted March 07, 2013 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I know a lot of scorp risers they're the person that sits in the corner of the room. I would imagine bella swan being a scorp rising. I do think they are exaggerated. Scorpio suns are definitely have a strong presence thou.

leo asc women seem to have an overwhelming presence, they just exude power and glamour.
I noticed people feel not enough worthy enough to approach them even if they are truly sweet.
You wouldn't dare speak to a queen unless spoken to!

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Thanks for stroking my ego
And what you say is true, most people wait for me to acknowledge them before speaking to me. I never really noticed that until I thought about it. Interesting.

I don't think I know any Scorp Rising ladies, at least not personally. But I did wanna say "Holy dualities" to Piscesmoongirl.
Twins for the sun and Fishes for your moon, do you know which direction you're going?

posted March 07, 2013 06:07 PM            

You sound like you have a lovely attitude towards life. I try to hold to that as well, and I usually do pretty well with people do as well as they can.....until they try to put games on me.

Then, not so much. If someone resorts to dishonesty or manipulation because they don't want to deal with their own stuff. Fine. I am not going to try and jump into a person's struggles and dictate reform. I certainly have enough flaws of my own that need changing, I try to keep my eyes on my own work. HOWEVER, what I won't and can't do is allow someone else to manage their deceptions and games through me. I have had men do this to me my entire life, and at this point, I roar out when it happens again. And, I can totally forgive someone the worst of things if they own it. If they don't, I can even forgive that but I won't make the mistake of trusting them again until they are capable of taking personal responsibility. I try to lead by example in this way, I don't expect anything I am not prepared myself to give.

As for 'maybe just being plain unattractive', I doubt it. Sexy is scary to a LOT of men and Scorpio Rising is the notorious sign of the sexy look since ascendent rules appearance. A lot of my friends tell me I am beautiful, but men flirt and talk with them, not me. My adorable and cutie pie girlfriends (love them all)! pout and say they wish they had that 'sexy look'. Grass always greener I guess. I guess the good thing is that since I seem to always have to break the ice and ask men out, I have gotten pretty confident to just do it and not wait to be pursued. But, it would be fun to be chased for a change!

posted March 08, 2013 08:51 AM            

Thank you so much, you sound lovely too.