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Topic: Mutable angles in your natal
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12thhouser Knowflake Posts: 924 From: Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 13, 2013 03:00 AM
(Meant to post this here and accidentally posted in Personal Readings)Does anybody else have all mutable angles in your natal chart? For those newbies (on the forum or to astrology altogether), angles are the 1st, 4th, 7th, and 10th house cusps (ascendant, IC, descendant, and MC, respectively). If you do, please list what signs you have on these cusps, any planets, aspects, etc.. If you don't have planets in these houses, where are the cusp rulers and what aspects do they have? My natal chart: I've been told that an all-mutable angle chart is considered a "self-improvement" life / incarnation. One key thing I once read about having all mutable angels in a natal chart is: you tend to forget every positive thing said to you or about you, yet never forget any of the negative things or criticisms said or done. Good or bad, how do you relate to all of this? Lots of feedback welcome! Thanks! IP: Logged |
Lunae Knowflake Posts: 288 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 13, 2013 03:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by 12thhouser: I've been told that an all-mutable angle chart is considered a "self-improvement" life / incarnation. One key thing I once read about having all mutable angels in a natal chart is: you tend to forget every positive thing said to you or about you, yet never forget any of the negative things or criticisms said or done.
I can relate so much with this! My self-confidence often fluctuates, ranging from bursts of dignified ego to the being in the pits of doom. I am pretty much aware of my own strengths and weaknesses but the thing is that I tend to be affected with what other people say about me. I am trying to improve that though with a "who cares" mentality now. I mean, I am me and I will not let other people say change who I really am. I am slowly making baby steps in improving my confidence. I have A late Gemini ascendant at 27 degrees. Sagittarius is on my descendant and Pisces/Virgo on my MC/IC axis. I don't have any rising planets but my chart ruler Mercury is in 6th house Sagittarius (dignified by house but in detriment by sign). I have Libra Venus in my 4th house cusp, loosely conjunct to my IC. Uranus, Neptune and my NN are all closely conjunct in my 7th house. I don't have any planets in the 10th house but my Pisces moon conjuncts my MC axis in the 9th. Neptune, the ruler of my 10th is in the 7th. It is interesting though how my chart ruler is in the sign of detriment, plus it's in the 6th house. I guess that explains why I'm self-critical. 
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Lunae Knowflake Posts: 288 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 13, 2013 03:20 AM
double post, sorry.IP: Logged |
SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 2038 From: Gaea's Omphalos Registered: Aug 2012
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posted March 13, 2013 04:21 AM
ASC 7* Virgo; Mercury in Capricorn 1* 4h (cnj *stellium* Sagittarius Neptune 29* Jupiter 28*)IC 3* Sagittarius; Jupiter in Sagittarius 28* 4h (cnj the above) Venus cnj SN 15* cnj Uranus 11* all 4h (GEM MC 3*, NN cnj Vesta/Rigel, DSC 7* cnj Ceres PSC) cnj/house of ruler all connected above) --- all rulers sxt Mars-Pluto (3h Scorpio), all rulers bQ Moon (9h Taurus) bQ 11h AntiVertex/12h Cusp (Leo) - (17* Lib Q Seginus~ of Bootes, Merc-Saturn in nature, star - good for writing; few others - nothing major) My angles have all progressed to the AP's. 0* Cap IC/Cnc MC, 0* Lib Asc/Ari DSC I suppose it's possible. ^^; ~not really sure though haha -just kinda "living it" without too much question. Having Sagittarius South Node to Gemini North Node emphasizes the need for outward and upward growth, from limitations of the mind (Sag) to limitations of the spirit only (Gem)... finding the balance is what is most important to me at least. When it comes to praise and criticism whether shared earnestly or in jest, I have no problem recalling both. (Or accepting it for that matter, I think Uranus sq Asc - "idgaf" - what someone "thinks" of me, especially when they do not actually know me, it's really no skin off my nose either way so I don't let it get to me...) roll with it~ laugh~, learn from it... but don't dwell... when you get to that point (in life) that you realize you cannot please everyone, no matter how hard you try, that's the only possible (non-self destructive) route to take... (otherwise you end up jaded one way or the other, not good) - that's my Capricorn Sun, Saturn in Scorpio 3h - (Mars cnj Pluto Scorpio)... Merc-Jupiter chartule and dominance makes me forgiving, empathetic, jovial... the Scorpion and Capricorn placements keep me from drifting away or burning up both ends... (losing it) sometimes it feels like there is a massive amount of invisible squares in my chart... but at first glance it's an "easy chart" with no really harsh aspects... everything is on the wide side that counts... but sometimes those minor aspects are more than enough, and those wide aspects are all it takes to turn the "easy chart" natal's world upside down. - transit periods can be extremely "transformational" though - because of the layout and each of these huddled placements... take Neptune in Pisces... this is going to be a very (long) ~strange~ time with it passing through my 6-7h (darn retro)! >< can't wait until it is squaring my natal Venus (SN/NN). /sigh lol - anyway I hadn't read of these things before, but ty for sharing them! <3 IP: Logged |
Maelstrom Knowflake Posts: 321 From: Small, much fought over European island Registered: Oct 2012
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posted March 13, 2013 05:06 AM
Not mutable no, but I have an entirely fixed axis.I am not sure what the significance is of having all the angles in one mode. Sorry I cant contribute anything else...yet. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 13, 2013 09:29 PM
My axis is completely cardinal. IP: Logged |
12thhouser Knowflake Posts: 924 From: Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 13, 2013 11:48 PM
Thanks for the feedback so far. Anybody else?IP: Logged |
AriesKat Knowflake Posts: 577 From: Brooklyn, NY USA Registered: May 2011
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posted March 13, 2013 11:54 PM
Mine are all cardinal but thanx for pointing this out I never thought about it. Does everyones chart have all their angles in the same Mode? IP: Logged |
AriesKat Knowflake Posts: 577 From: Brooklyn, NY USA Registered: May 2011
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posted March 14, 2013 12:13 AM
From looking at all the respOnses it looks like everyone has all their axis in the same mode....I wonder how that happensIP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 14, 2013 01:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by AriesKat: Mine are all cardinal but thanx for pointing this out I never thought about it. Does everyones chart have all their angles in the same Mode?
Not always. I could have my ascendant in Libra and the MC in Leo or Gemini which makes it either fixed or mutable instead of cardinal. I just happen to have every point at 9 degrees for some strange reason, all cardinal signs. Cancer MC they say is mother to the world.IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3013 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 14, 2013 02:20 AM
I have half and half  Mutable Asc/Desc Cardnal Mc/IC ------------------
"For all those who believe, expect a miracle.” Linda Goodman 1925-1995 IP: Logged |
Lazyscarecrow Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Silent Hill Registered: Aug 2011
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posted March 14, 2013 02:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by 12thhouser:
I've been told that an all-mutable angle chart is considered a "self-improvement" life / incarnation. One key thing I once read about having all mutable angels in a natal chart is: you tend to forget every positive thing said to you or about you, yet never forget any of the negative things or criticisms said or done.Good or bad, how do you relate to all of this? Lots of feedback welcome! Thanks!
I have natal Sag rising, Pisces IC, Gemini DSC, and Virgo MC. There are no planets conjunct any of them except maybe Jupiter has a very wide 9 degree conjunction with my natal MC. Yes, often times all I can remember is the negative things and crazy stuff people have told me. It's hard for me to believe compliments or positive words, but I always thought that was a Venus-Saturn thing rather than a mutable angles thing. But thank you for sharing, I can relate for the most part. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 825 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted March 14, 2013 02:31 AM
Mine is fixed.Do you have any infos about it?maybe you should post about cardinal and fixed as well if you have any infos about them,if you dont mind of course.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 2580 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 14, 2013 05:28 AM
I have mutable ASC / DSC. Cardinal IC / MC.Actually it makes sense, because mutable signs are impressionable and easy to influence. Especially Gemini / Pisces, and when they're on the angles (ASC particularly) it can be difficult to resist the "natural" inclination of the sign to just be influenced by other people and their opinions. That's why they're called "mutable": they can easily change their minds and their opinions and are adaptable and flexible. I'd think the opposite is true for Fixed signs on angles. They'd be quite fixed / stubborn in their ways and opinions. Not easy to budge. Cardinals would make someone very reactive and proactive. Someone who takes action, fights, initiates.
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 468 From: Poland/Saturn Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 14, 2013 10:36 AM
Virgo asc, Gemini mc.Mercury, Uranus, Lilith and Juno in the 4th house. Asc trine sun, Uranus and Neptune. Ic sextile Venus, opposite Mars, trine Jupiter. Dsc sextile Uranus and Neptune. Mc trine Venus, conjunct Mars. quote: you tend to forget every positive thing said to you or about you, yet never forget any of the negative things or criticisms said or done.
I tend to remember both, but negative things usually stay in my memory for longer, even years. ------------------ Do you have some chocolate? IP: Logged |