posted March 14, 2013 01:41 PM            

Asking why a Sag is blunt is like asking why a Cancer is emotional; we just are! lol

I honestly don't even notice when I'm being blunt! It's really strange! I only notice by observing people's reactions to what I say. It takes me by surprise when people tell me I'm blunt... I have an Aries moon lol but my Mercury is in Cap.

posted March 14, 2013 02:47 PM            

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Originally posted by goatcat:
Interesting.
Sagittarius is to elevate the self.

How do you explain this Sagittarian behavior,

I once had an "ugly" boyfriend of who I really liked, but my mom who is a Sagittarius Sun and Mercury, always felt like she needed to remind me. I hated it because she kept sharing this with me without my asking. Whenever I spoke of him or needed advice on our relationship, it was as if she couldn't get past the fact that he was ugly...OKAY MOMMY I GET IT.

I'm a Capricorn Mercury and we're honest and straight up, but only when asked.

I think Sagittarius has tunnel vision, really.

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Simply put from your mom's perspective, an ugly boyfriend was an obstruction for you. She believed you could do better and by not embracing your right to pretty boyfriends, you were repeatedly subjecting yourself to the oppression of having an ugly boyfriend. Perhaps in her mind she felt you could find an emotionally and intellectually fulfilling boyfriend who was ALSO attractive (which in its self is a relative term).

Nobody said every Sagittarian's logic is sane. Sane or not, the desire to elevate still exists. This happens in all signs: Aries is about cherishing the self, yet some are so determined to prove their self worthy of being cherished, they place their self in danger. Taurus loves pleasure, yet some will fixate on certain pleasures well past their own physical discomfort. Gemini thrives on communication, yet some will harm those they communicate with just to make the conversation more interesting. Cancer wants to nurture, but the fear of others leaving can cause some to emotionally hobble the people they care for, leaving them perpetually dependent.

posted March 14, 2013 04:59 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
because they have no filters?

It's because of their honesty. They're so up front about everything, it just flows.
(and like I said, No filters)

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Sooo true, in life nothing has gotten me into more trouble than the no filter aspect of my nature.

The thing with us Saggies is just not take it to personal as it normally is just a momentary thought that kind of vomits out

posted March 14, 2013 09:04 PM            

I think this is a pretty good thread about Sagittarians. I've got several Sagittarius planets, so despite my best Virgoan Sun/Mercury efforts to filter, a Sagittarian type statement slips out every now and then.

However, I am nowhere NEAR as bad as most of the Sagittarian Sun/Mercuries that I know.

Earlier this week I was taking a lesson from my Sagittarian dance instructor, and he said to me, completely from out of the blue: "You know, my greatest fault as a teacher is that I tend to baby my girls (students)." I just looked at him and didn't say anything, but I felt slightly insulted, because I was then thinking that he was dumbing down the routine for me. He's a smart Sagittarian, because he at least TRIED to take blame for it himself, but it still came off as insulting (true or not).

posted March 14, 2013 10:14 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
because they have no filters?

It's because of their honesty. They're so up front about everything, it just flows.
(and like I said, No filters)

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posted March 14, 2013 10:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Simply put from your mom's perspective, an ugly boyfriend was an obstruction for you. She believed you could do better and by not embracing your right to pretty boyfriends, you were repeatedly subjecting yourself to the oppression of having an ugly boyfriend. Perhaps in her mind she felt you could find an emotionally and intellectually fulfilling boyfriend who was ALSO attractive (which in its self is a relative term).

Nobody said every Sagittarian's logic is sane. Sane or not, the desire to elevate still exists. This happens in all signs: Aries is about cherishing the self, yet some are so determined to prove their self worthy of being cherished, they place their self in danger. Taurus loves pleasure, yet some will fixate on certain pleasures well past their own physical discomfort. Gemini thrives on communication, yet some will harm those they communicate with just to make the conversation more interesting. Cancer wants to nurture, but the fear of others leaving can cause some to emotionally hobble the people they care for, leaving them perpetually dependent.

From an archetypal stand point each sign is pure and direct, but people are like radios. Due to environment, manufacturing issues, poor reception, etc.. the way we pick up the wavelength can be warped, filled with static, and difficult to make any sense of.

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posted March 10, 2019 01:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Yin:
Sag doesn't like omission. Omission = hiding = guilt = dirty secrets = low morals.
The sign of Sag is all about integrity and high morals.

So, telling it EXACTLY like it is, is being honest. Tact and sugarcoating are a hair away from lying. There is nothing we hate more than lying.

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posted March 10, 2019 09:18 PM            

I have a sag stellium-ish

posted March 15, 2019 05:05 AM            

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Originally posted by enchantress299:

True enough, he actually DID act like a stereotypical dance instructor for my first lesson, but I think he realized very quickly that all it did was stress me out and cause me to push back, so the next time he slowed down (that was all I wanted him to do). *I* don't see it as 'babying' but I could see how his super extroverted Sagittarian manner would want to push harder and faster, so he probably really thinks that he is *babying* me.

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I hate to break it to you, but your Sag instructor was absolutely correct in saying he was babying you. He was far more gentle with you compared to the first day.

Back to the main topic...

posted March 15, 2019 05:05 AM            

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Originally posted by enchantress299:

True enough, he actually DID act like a stereotypical dance instructor for my first lesson, but I think he realized very quickly that all it did was stress me out and cause me to push back, so the next time he slowed down (that was all I wanted him to do). *I* don't see it as 'babying' but I could see how his super extroverted Sagittarian manner would want to push harder and faster, so he probably really thinks that he is *babying* me.

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I hate to break it to you, but your Sag instructor was absolutely correct in saying he was babying you. He was far more gentle with you compared to the first day.

Back to the main topic...

posted March 15, 2019 09:34 AM            

There is a tendency for Sag to say "off the wall" things(Uranus).But also things that feel so blunt(Saturn).

Sag however at the same time is quite prophetic. So many people often think Sag "dumb" mentally or a little "confused" (contrary to popular belief that Sag is this "sage"). And that is because of the Aqua in 3rd, Pisces Ic cusp in the solar chart.

Sag is oftentimes not an eloquent speaker like Gemini /Leo or Taurus. They oftentimes will trip over words or say inappropriate/ill timed jokes(again this is Aquarius in the 3rds more awkward nature coming through).

But as far reaching as their comments are and seem to lack all "logic".( Sort of like the Shaman who is called "mad" at first blush etc). Much of what they say actually comes true-much to many people's surprise

If the Sag concerned has Venus 3rd house however, such a native will unconsciously "edit" themselves and try to not say things that are blunt or may be too brusque for others to hear.

Mars in aspect to a planet in 3rd, Mars to Mercury /Moon/Sun or in the 3rd house however will bring out the more "blunt" communication style that Sag is famous for having.

Ann Coulter is such an example of a Sag who may be the "textbook" type. She has Sun,Moon,Mercury, Venus and Mars in Sag.

And add to that, her Mars conjuncts Sun /Moon /Mercury. Yikes!!! (source astro-chart.com). So living with her can feel like you need an extra layer of skin.

Pluto amplifies this by squaring her Sun /Mercury /Venus and (widely) her Mars. So she p*** a lot of people off.

posted March 16, 2019 09:16 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Most of the Sagittarius people I know are honest and light hearted. They look at the big picture, so I guess that’s why they don’t see the need to focus on little details and “filter” their speech. That’s part of the Sag charm haha they’re so open (not all of them). They often let you know where you stand.

And there’s the “treat others like how you want to be treated” mentality. They like people to be honest to them, so they serve everyone a dose of honesty lol

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I've noticed this about Sagittarius, too. It's important to remember they are "big picture" people, like you said. Their ruling planet is Jupiter, the jovial planet, and the gas giant.

I think there is something of a latent philosopher in Sagittarius, in varying degrees, as well. They are truth-seekers. The assertiveness of being a fire element makes them more open and a little crass as well.