posted March 17, 2013 12:33 AM            

I also did have my venus squaring their pluto again with two people from different pluto generations so I guess that might count but it could also be coincidence.

Do a lot of you who don't have a venus-pluto aspect natally also have had venus-pluto in synastry with a lot of important people in your life?

posted March 17, 2013 01:14 AM            

I'm in my 20s,I've only had one relationship.He's the only guy I've ever had feelings for.It was really Pluto heavy.

His Pluto trine my sun,mercury,moon,and venus.
His venus fell in my 8th.
In the composite Pluto made a few hard aspects.

I don't think meeting the people we love is a coincidence,it's supposed to happen.

posted March 17, 2013 03:48 AM            

But the people you do meet and the people you are attracted to, if there's Venus/Pluto going on, well those are the people who are gonna make a change.

I don't have a Venus/Pluto aspect natally.
But the biggest influences romantically speaking for me, were: someone who had a Venus/Pluto opposition natally (it touched my Sun) and my first boyfriend: my Venus conjunct his Pluto.

posted March 17, 2013 04:07 AM            

Just friends so nothing steamy like you'd think, but we get along really well ! (Libra)
Anyway I meet people with natal Venus/Pluto friends/romantic, still, and we get each other, it's nice. I always find it meaningful.

BUT never does my Venus connect with the Pluto of those outside of my generation (trine, or sextile) not a fan of that one. There's a lot of Jupiter with me and older/younger people though.

posted March 17, 2013 06:49 AM              

2. The person with the pluto ALSO has a personal planet in aspect (so actually a 3 planet`s pattern, involving Venus-Pluto)

3. natal Pluto tied to Venus, Mars, 1st or 7th house

4. Pluto ruler of or sitting in 1st, 5th, 7th or 8th house

5. the natal Pluto is tied (conjunct/ opposite) to important composite configurations; or vice versa composite Pluto-square Venus tied to personal planets in natal

6. Pluto is highlighted through progressions or transits of the slow moving planets.

7. Pluto (and the other planet) is part of a significant midpoint pattern (orb: 1-2 degrees at most).

posted March 17, 2013 06:50 AM              

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I agree with Gemmy and magicspells, it's not a coincidence and just because Pluto is a generational planet, doesn't mean its influence is less important.

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posted March 17, 2013 06:52 AM              

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Originally posted by Lonake:
There's this woman I met maybe 3 mos ago and recently exchanged birth data with since we're getting to be closer friends, she has a tight natal Venus/Pluto square, with Pluto conj my Mars/Pluto, and I have a tight natal Venus/Pluto square, with Pluto conjunct her Mars/Pluto (Venus opp Venus).

Just friends so nothing steamy like you'd think, but we get along really well ! (Libra)
Anyway I meet people with natal Venus/Pluto friends/romantic, still, and we get each other, it's nice. I always find it meaningful.

BUT never does my Venus connect with the Pluto of those outside of my generation (trine, or sextile) not a fan of that one. There's a lot of Jupiter with me and older/younger people though.

Guess I just like my Pluto in Libra crowd

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I have that with a very good friend, too.

Natally I have Venus-square Pluto, she has the conjunction (actually her Pluto conjuncts Mercury, Venus, Mars, opposes Moon and squares ASC. lol)

in synastry her Pluto widely squares my Venus (5 degrees - a tad wide for my taste); and my Pluto conjuncts her Venus and Mars by 2 degrees.

Pluto rules my 11th house, and Mars rules her 11th house, so that conjunction is also a conjunction of the ruler of both 11th houses for us.

posted March 17, 2013 08:12 AM            

So this is why you can count the aspect. There was a draw between you two. One or the other or both of you were drawn to each other.

This is why I approach orbs differently than most. I count them all on a sliding scale in intensity until they change harmonic.

With Miss Scorpio, she was born 11/16/79. I don't have a connection with every woman born on 11/16/79. I only have a connection with her (and I've met two other women with the same dob and there was no connection).

Like others have said in this thread, physical attraction must also be factored in. I seriously doubt you'd be attracted to every male born on a specific day and time.

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Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
Virgo Asc

posted March 17, 2013 10:16 AM            

I agree with everyone!

We're all so awesome here

posted March 17, 2013 10:33 AM              

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Ceri Love the points you made.

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thank you.

posted March 17, 2013 10:57 AM            

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We're all so awesome here

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I think the way you can tell venus-pluto natally matters when it happens to a whole generation rather than their venus to your pluto, is bc of double whammy venus-pluto. I have that with the most important birthdate of my life and I sure can feel it and have met two other ppl born on that birthdate. Yet I have dw venus-pluto with someone as well and our synastry is not as jupiterian and though we got along really well we didn't become friends, and we have an unafflicted love stellium like i do with the other birthdate so that rly shouldnt be the issue.I also had minor aspect venus-pluto and the venus sq pluto with another birthdate in my generation and I could def feel that as well, though slightly less intensely.

The most important people in my life were as follows:
One I had dw venus-pluto with
The other one I had my venus in leo sq his pluto in scorp. But his venus is in taurus and my pluto is scorp so maybe that counts somehow.
The other one is getting to be someone I dated briefly but we are still trying to get to know each other as friends. He has venus sq pluto natally, as do I. His venus and mars in aquarius opposes my venus and mars in leo and his venus squares my pluto in scorp.
And the last one has his venus in leo conjunct my venus and mars and square my pluto in scorp. He's of the libra generation.
And also i have a friend whose venus sextiles my pluto and we are very very close, so the theory would apply there too.

posted March 17, 2013 11:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
So in your case, if their Venus makes an aspect to your Pluto, it would probably make an aspect to your own Venus, no?

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Just wanted to clarify, in case you missed the pattern i found from looking at the synastry in my astrodata just now

It didnt seem to matter wether or not pluto or venus made other aspects to my venus mars conjunction. The only thing that seemed to matter was if it was their venus aspecting MY pluto (would make sense bc then its not generational
but more specific)

Like me and my friend Ned have sun conj moon in synastry and his venus sextile my pluto, and no other pluto aspects. And we are only slightly less close as someone i have the dw venus-pluto in minor aspect with. I have the hunch that it matters more when their venus is the one that makes the aspect.

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And DWs are obviously more powerful than a simple one way aspect.

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posted March 17, 2013 12:15 PM              

I am not convinced that the DW always HAS to take place, yet if it does, it seems very powerful.
However, even if there is not a DW in synastry, the aspect might come up in composite (which is sort of a DW, as both sets of Venus and Plutos are needed to arrive at the composite placements).

posted March 17, 2013 12:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
What I find interesting is how most sites and authors (though not all) are stating that the aspects has more impact on poor Venus. Yet it is the Pluto person for whom the aspect would be individual (the Venus-person might have it with quite some people).

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^ Yes! I agree. Although Venus does feel it.. even stronger than Pluto, possibly.

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Personally I do feel if anyone`s Pluto is aspecting my Venus, even if it is not a DW. (though in this case the orb has to be extra tight; I am talking about 2-3 degrees here).But it might be because of my natal resonance.

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I think I feel others' Plutos when they aspect my Venus, as well, for the most part.. imo that's because natally my Venus doesn't touch Pluto so it's like whoaaa! when someone's Pluto makes an aspect to it

posted March 17, 2013 12:25 PM              

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I think I feel others' Plutos when they aspect my Venus, as well, for the most part.. imo that's because natally my Venus doesn't touch Pluto so it's like whoaaa! when someone's Pluto makes an aspect to it

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And I was thinking I react to it because I DO HAVE Venus-Pluto square natally.

Maybe we are both right; just the reception of that aspect is a different.

In your case it is something completely new and makes you pay attention instantly.

In my case it might be because it feels familiar and I resonate with it.

Or it is something entirely different. lol

Well, for me Venus rules my 5th house, so I am not surprised I am seeking out that energy in a romantic-erotic context.

posted March 17, 2013 12:31 PM            

Natally Venus conjuncts my DSC ruler so.. yep! pretty important, too.

Oh! One question I have in mind: do you guys with Venus/Pluto natally attract Mars/Pluto types?

And another.. do you attract people who have Venus/Pluto aspects in the progressed chart or via transits?

posted March 17, 2013 01:27 PM              

To everything.

Mars-Pluto is actually the complement of Venus-Pluto, though in some cases it might be too hot to handle.

posted March 17, 2013 02:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Thank you for clarifying!
I did understand but now it's even clearer, haha.

I'm thinking about something.. I forgot, is Venus or Pluto your chart ruler? That would surely amplify the connection. Very interesting that your Pluto connected to their Venus is more powerful for you, and not your Venus to their Pluto, unless it's a DW.. hmm..

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Venus is my chart ruler, being a libra rising

But pluto is also in my first house.

Is that what you were looking for?
Would pluto in the 1st be the reason why?