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SilverFeather
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posted March 22, 2013 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Guys, I'm really stuck in a complicated situation right now and need some help.

The thing is I want to meet someone special and build a serious relationship with them, my past love affairs all had been short and shallow and I'd really love to experience something deep.
HOWEVER..I'm a very independent person, I'm used to being on my own roaming free and wild and being in a relationship makes me feel claustrophobic.
Every time I'm presented with a chance to start a relationship I run away.
I flirt around with guys all the time but once they get serious I pull away, it's almost instinctive and I can't help it !
I feel smothered when I'm with someone and I won't feel better and more comfortable until I break it off but once I do I go wishing again for another chance.
It's really tiring and I always feel torn between my Sagittarian Sun's need for freedom and my Libran Moon's need for romantic partnership. MY Virgo Ascendant makes things worse by making it so easy for me to remain involved emotionally.

I've met a very nice man this year, a Taurus sun/Aries Moon/ Leo Ascendant, he fell for me at first sight, he was so loving, protective and very attentive. I stayed with him for a month and he made me feel like a queen. He looked at me as if I hang the moon and the stars, he had such warm passionate chocolate eyes. However he was the possessive type and he had a bit of temper issues but who is perfect ? We all have our flaws.
I tried so hard to make it work with him, I did everything to temper down my need to pull away like always but in the end I left him. I hurt him so bad and I can't stop hating myself for what I've done. He never called me again and I knew he wouldn't, he had too much pride to do that and I think I deserve it after all.
I'm afraid of having this unbroken pattern repeated with every guy. What do I do ? How can I fix this ? Could it be because of the type of guys I go out with ? What type of guys should I look for then ? How can I avoid the same thing happening all over again ? Should I date another freedom-lover Sagittarius like myself ?

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posted March 22, 2013 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely get another freedom loving sag like yourself.


I have had horrible experiences with men who have venus in sag. Total nightmare.

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Gemini sun 12th
Cancer asc 1st
Taurus moon 11th
Taurus venus 11th
Libra mars 3rd
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Faith
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posted March 22, 2013 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Consider someone with Saturn in Sag, that's what I did.

I'm Sag Venus.

My relationship with my husband is far from perfect, but I wouldn't hesitate to get involved with another Sag Saturn person if I were single...my father was also Sag Saturn, along with a few others I've known, & I enjoy that energy.

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posted March 22, 2013 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Consider someone with Saturn in Sag, that's what I did.

I've never thought of that! is it working for you ? could you please tell me the main replacements of you husband's chart ( sun, asc, moon) ?
By the way I have a major Stellium in Sagittarius ( sun + venus + mars + mercury + north node )and Saturn rules my 5th house through Capricorn.what about yours ?

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posted March 22, 2013 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonic Capricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sag in Venus here plus a Saggitarius stellium.
not that many girls can keep up with me, i get bored real easily. she need to share a love in travel and affinity for cultures, foreign affairs, spirituality and antropology amongst other stuff.

dynamic in the relationship is important too since my sun moon and asc are in cardinal signs.

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posted March 22, 2013 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plutonic Capricorn:
Sag in Venus here plus a Saggitarius stellium.
not that many girls can keep up with me, i get bored real easily. she need to share a love to travel and affinity for cultures, foreign affairs and antropology amongst other stuff.

dynamic in the relationship is important too since my sun moon and asc are cardinal signs.



I can absolutely relate to you ! I've experienced the same things as you did.
I also have a great interest in ancient civilizations and my biggest dream is to visit China and Japan, Asian cultures fascinate me, I've also fallen in love with history and archeology.
We both have strong Sagittarian energy in our charts so I think that explains the similarities.

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posted March 22, 2013 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's often said that a woman's life partner is reflected through her chart by certain indicators which are mainly :
- SUN ( represents the husband for a woman)
- Venus
- FIFTH HOUSE
- SEVENTH HOUSE
- JUNO
- MARS
- North Node

Okay, I'm going to see what I will end up with :
- SUN : it's in Sagittarius in third house
- VENUS : Also Sag in third House
- Fifth House : ruled by Saturn
- Seventh House : ruled by Neptune
- Juno : in Libra second House
- Mars : in Sagittarius 4th House
- N.Node : in Sagittarius 3rth House.

So, I'm going to end up with a well-off intellectual Sagittarius with some Saturnian/Neptunian traits. now go figure ..

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posted March 22, 2013 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
I've never thought of that! is it working for you ? could you please tell me the main replacements of you husband's chart ( sun, asc, moon) ?
By the way I have a major Stellium in Sagittarius ( sun + venus + mars + mercury + north node )and Saturn rules my 5th house through Capricorn.what about yours ?

Yikes, maybe I shouldn't have recommended Sag Saturn without asking about your other placements first. I honestly don't know how that would work for you.

My husband has sun conjunct Uranus exact in Leo, trine Saturn almost exact. His Saturn is conjunct my Venus, 1 degree orb, in both of our fifth houses. My Cap sun is conjunct his DSC. We've been married 14 years, we have good days and bad days. *shrug*

(Edit: 'Forgot to answer your question, he has a Libra moon, Cancer ASC.)

Come to think of it, though, I have Venus trine Saturn natally which might give me more staying power in relationships than other Sag Venus people.

I also have several old friends with Leo Saturn...maybe fire Saturn people in general help Sag Venus stick around??

Best wishes from someone who doesn't know that much for sure

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ELoveCherishEndure
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posted March 22, 2013 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ELoveCherishEndure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, since I am a Scorpio Sun, Pisces Moon, and a Sag Venus, I have all these unsure tendencies because I most definitely like commitment and serious relationships especially with my Cancerian Mars.

I do have short-lived relationships because of my Moon-Venus square and my Venus and Mars quincunx. It has its challenges and that Sun/Saturn square doesn't really help. The Moon lays in the 5th house with an empty 7th and an empty 11th... I guess the bad aspects to it make it difficult to commit or let alone find someone who I like or dudes who like me. Especially the quincunx.

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posted March 22, 2013 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonic Capricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Plutonic Capricorn:
[b]Sag in Venus here plus a Saggitarius stellium.
not that many girls can keep up with me, i get bored real easily. she need to share a love to travel and affinity for cultures, foreign affairs and antropology amongst other stuff.

dynamic in the relationship is important too since my sun moon and asc are cardinal signs.



I can absolutely relate to you ! I've experienced the same things as you did.
I also have a great interest in ancient civilizations and my biggest dream is to visit China and Japan, Asian cultures fascinate me, I've also fallen in love with history and archeology.
We both have strong Sagittarian energy in our charts so I think that explains the similarities.

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Sun in Capricorn 4th house
Moon in Cancer end of 9th house
Mercury in Capricorn 3rd house
Venus in Saggitarius 3rd house
Mars in Scorpio 1st house
Jupiter in Saggitarius 3rd house
Saturn in Scorpio 1st house
Uranus in Saggitarius 2nd house
Neptune in Saggitarius 3rd house
Pluto in Scorpio 1st house
North node Gemini 8th house

Libra ASC

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SilverFeather
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posted March 22, 2013 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Wow ! that's a lot of Sagittarius in there
Here are my placement :

Ascendant in Virgo
Sun in Sagittarius in 3rd House
Moon in Libra in 2nd House
Mercury in Sagittarius in 3rd House
Venus in Sagittarius in 3rd House
Mars in Sagittarius in 4th House
Saturn in Aquarius in 6th House
Neptune in Capricorn in 4th House
Uranus in Capricorn in 4th House
Pluto in Scorpio in 3rd House
Jupiter in Scorpio in 2nd House
North Node in Sagittarius in 3rd House

I do have a very busy 3rd house apparently

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posted March 22, 2013 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, you have a lot of Sag.

I'm a Sag Sun/Uranus/Ascendant, myself, and I have the exact same problem. I feel 'caged in' quickly, and run away when things get too close.

Do those Capricorn planets square your Moon?

Are your Neptune, Saturn and Uranus conjunct? Neptune is the ruler of your 7th house, so if it is conjunct your Uranus and Saturn, I can really see why you're having difficulty.. Uranus-freedom, Saturn-commitment.

I think you should date a Libra.

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posted March 22, 2013 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starfairy:
Wow, you have a lot of Sag.

I'm a Sag Sun/Uranus/Ascendant, myself, and I have the exact same problem. I feel 'caged in' quickly, and run away when things get too close.

Do those Capricorn planets square your Moon?

Are your Neptune, Saturn and Uranus conjunct? Neptune is the ruler of your 7th house, so if it is conjunct your Uranus and Saturn, I can really see why you're having difficulty.. Uranus-freedom, Saturn-commitment.

I think you should date a Libra.


My Uranus conjunct Neptune and both of them square my Moon.
My Sun conjunct Venus and Mars.
My Mercury conjunct Sun,Pluto and Venus.
My Sun sextile Moon.
My Saturn sextile Mars and square Mercury.

Now come to think of it , the only man I've ever loved was a Libra sun/Sagittarius Moon with a Sagittarius Mercury and a Libra ascendant.
I fell hard for him but he was already in a relationship with a Virgo girl.

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posted March 22, 2013 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
My Uranus conjunct Neptune and both of them square my Moon.
My Sun conjunct Venus and Mars.
My Mercury conjunct Sun,Pluto and Venus.
My Sun sextile Moon.
My Saturn sextile Mars and square Mercury.

Now come to think of it , the only man I've ever loved was a Libra sun/Sagittarius Moon with a Sagittarius Mercury and a Libra ascendant.
I fell hard for him but he was already in a relationship with a Virgo girl.


Oh, okay.. So the ruler of your 7th house is conjunct uranus. This indicates that you need someone who will give you tons of freedom and excitement. This is already indicated by your Venus in Sag, but the Neptune-Uranus conjunction heightens it.

Uranus and Neptune square Moon is interesting. Uranus brings an on-off energy into your emotional life. You may get bored kinda easily, and the initial excitement of a relationship is what attracts you the most. Neptune square Moon indicates that you can be kinda idealistic, or maybe unrealistic when it comes to emotional issues.

Yeah, a Libra guy would be good for you! You chart is very libra-friendly (other than the Cappy squares, but hey, squares aren't that bad...).

Anyway, I can relate to you on the relationship thing. I've only found one guy that I could stay with long-term in my 28 years of life! It really depends on you finding the right person, and you will.

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posted March 22, 2013 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for calliope23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have Venus in Sag, but I do have Mercury, Saturn, Uranus, Sun and MC in there.

Mercury rules my 7H and my Mercury-Saturn are conjunct, so I totally understand the whole feeling "caged in" thing. I think most girls would die to have guys envision a future with them or make notable advances toward a long-term relationship early on...nope, not me. I always feel smothered. I WANT a guy to play those elusive dating games and to keep me guessing about how he feels and what he's doing..even when we are done "dating" and together in a committed relationship. I think this creates "space" in the relationship itself, which helps with personal issues with freedom/space. Anyway, I've always had luck with Leos, so maybe you might look for one of those? Even though they depend on your attention, they're incredibly secure with themselves. Because they're confident, they don't often try to reign in your freedom since they're not nervous that you're going to find someone or something or somwhere more exciting than what they have to offer...they just want to know you love and adore them, but they really don't make a whole lot of other demands (imo). You've got a Sag sun like me, so I would think you'd innately get along with Leo suns as well.

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posted March 22, 2013 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iv'e had this problem all my life, but now I'm with a Venus in Gemini and he's a lot like me so we have been living together for a year. No smothering involved.

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posted March 23, 2013 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shybaby187     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone please help me understand my chart better. Im a newcomer to astrology it confuses me but i will admit i'm fascinated by it. I want to learn more, however It's kind of difficult to educate yourself on something you know little about. My question is:
How does one perceive me?
What type of man will i end up with? Well more or less in what sign will be in. Lol please don't judge me im sure ya can tell im clueless about it all ;-).
I would Gladly appreciate your opinions thanks


Planet Aspect Planet Orb/Value
Sun Conjunction Mercury 2.06 569
Sun Opposition Neptune 3.53 -137
Sun Trine Pluto 3.11 99
Sun Trine Ascendant 0.58 88
Moon Square Venus 3.37 -64
Moon Square Uranus 1.21 -93
Mercury Opposition Neptune 5.59 -67
Mercury Trine Pluto 5.17 46
Mercury Trine Ascendant 1.08 69
Venus Sextile Jupiter 0.09 231
Venus Opposition Uranus 2.16 -149
Mars Square Jupiter 1.20 -43
Jupiter Trine Uranus 2.08 59
Jupiter Trine Midheaven 6.07 12
Saturn Conjunction Uranus 7.52 60
Saturn Trine Midheaven 3.53 21
Uranus Trine Midheaven 3.59 15
Neptune Sextile Pluto 0.42 74
Pluto Conjunction Ascendant 4.09 35
1378 -553 825

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posted March 23, 2013 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotus_flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I have a Venus Sag and I think the thing about it is that you mostly want to be free--whatever that sense of freedom means to you. You want to experience lots of things and the world is the limit! The key is finding someone who has the same sense of adventure, but can still meet your emotional needs.....especially if your moon is in a different element completely.

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posted March 24, 2013 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krista_Kay_1993     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am seeing a guy with this aspect, i have cancer venus so it's nt easy !

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posted March 24, 2013 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonic Capricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SilverFeather:

Wow ! that's a lot of Sagittarius in there
Here are my placement :

Ascendant in Virgo
Sun in Sagittarius in 3rd House
Moon in Libra in 2nd House
Mercury in Sagittarius in 3rd House
Venus in Sagittarius in 3rd House
Mars in Sagittarius in 4th House
Saturn in Aquarius in 6th House
Neptune in Capricorn in 4th House
Uranus in Capricorn in 4th House
Pluto in Scorpio in 3rd House
Jupiter in Scorpio in 2nd House
North Node in Sagittarius in 3rd House

I do have a very busy 3rd house apparently


You have a 3rd house stellium too! And instead of three planets in the first, you have three planets in the fourth, both are cardinal houses.

I find the 4th house very interesting, I have my sun there. Its a very spiritual house and it deals with history, the past and nostalgic stuff. It deals with the Roots of things. The 4th house imo is like the Mosque the Temple the Synagogue the Church, in other words; the House of God.

Are you a homebody ? I havent found that much profound descriptions on the 4th house, only one that I can think of but cant remember from where but it said something that it can be a House of Light in its higher form.

I dont like to stay at home that much, unless I have some occupation that needs me to stay indoors, in that case I can seclude myself easily for a period of time. Other than that I prefer the outdoors, perhaps thats due to other placements.

I feel that some astrologers miss the point of meaning as a homebody in this concern. I think it has more to do as ive said on a other topic about the 4th house, namely; that is has more to do with the body as a house.

That is.. The first wall is the coarse or physical body. the second, the body of feelings. the third, the body of the understanding and the fourth is the body of awareness.


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posted March 24, 2013 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonic Capricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here's , my chart..

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Jim
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posted March 24, 2013 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone metions to get another sagi venus freedoom loving guy , but you guys are forgetting the aquarius, theyre freedoom loving too

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posted October 05, 2013 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonic Capricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in sag is global purposes, close minded people are perhaps therefor not for us.

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posted October 05, 2013 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So guys, new updates
I'm currently dating another Sag Venus/Mars guy and things look good so far.

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posted October 05, 2013 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SilverFeather:
It's often said that a woman's life partner is reflected through her chart by certain indicators which are mainly :
- SUN ( represents the husband for a woman)
- Venus
- FIFTH HOUSE
- SEVENTH HOUSE
- JUNO
- MARS
- North Node

Okay, I'm going to see what I will end up with :
- SUN : it's in Sagittarius in third house
- VENUS : Also Sag in third House
- Fifth House : ruled by Saturn
- Seventh House : ruled by Neptune
- Juno : in Libra second House
- Mars : in Sagittarius 4th House
- N.Node : in Sagittarius 3rth House.

So, I'm going to end up with a well-off intellectual Sagittarius with some Saturnian/Neptunian traits. now go figure ..


Sun - Leo in 9th
Venus - Gemini in 8th
5th - Pisces on cusp. Neptune in cap 2nd. Mars in Aries in 5th
7th - Taurus cusp. Venus in 8th. Jupiter in Gemini in 7th
Juno - cancer in 8th
Mars - Aries in 5th
NN - Pisces in 4th

I ll look at my newly married sisters chart when I get home. She did marry her descendant sign though

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