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Topic: What sign is more likely to win an argument?
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 26, 2013 11:27 AM
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watermonkey Knowflake Posts: 210 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 26, 2013 11:33 AM
aries mars or aries moonIP: Logged |
libraschoice77 Knowflake Posts: 1740 From: A Danielle Steele Novel Registered: Aug 2010
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posted March 26, 2013 11:40 AM
Going to say someone with Gemini and Libra placements since they tend to be more cerebral.IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5457 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted March 26, 2013 11:42 AM
Leo,"might is right".I've noticed in LL as well,Stacy Lewis is one,it's been a while since I have not seen CIND3R in LL but man she could argue,don't know her sun sign but I've always thought there must be some leo.I have not noticed that with you though Aquarius comes next,don't know whether they win or not but surely they don't lose because they are really stubborn,more than even mighty taurus in my experience,reminds me of aquaguy. I think Aries can also argue pretty well,I have noticed that hannarama can argue pretty well,Kerosene as well,must be his mars in aries. Virgos are also said to be good at arguing but ones I know have placements in Libra and their arguments usually end in a draw. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 7970 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 26, 2013 11:45 AM
Debate? LibraArgument with tears? Cancer Argument with A Look? Scorpio Argument with flying objects or melee? Aries IP: Logged |
CAY_512 Knowflake Posts: 642 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted March 26, 2013 11:45 AM
Mars in the third house PlacementSign- Virgo (attention to detail) IP: Logged |
SpooL Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Toronto/Ottawa,Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 26, 2013 12:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: Debate? LibraArgument with tears? Cancer Argument with A Look? Scorpio Argument with flying objects or melee? Aries
hmmm.... Interesting coincidence. What are your placements? I don't think I'm winning the debate n another thread between the both of us, all admit that. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 26, 2013 12:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: I have not noticed that with you though
I haven't had the need to argue.. Hmm...to be honest, Western astrology is still new territory to me, I will never get in an argument with someone if I'm not sure I'll win I'll never argue on something am not sure. I participated in numerous debates when I was in school and college, even participated in a national debate twice, won the first time and got the second place the second time. When I'm on the internet, I find it futile to argue, because I don't see the person, I like reading body language.I want to see the person am arguing with because I'm pretty quick at giving repartees. The internet,however has become a medium of intense communication, I love how people argue on Facebook,it's like watching a match of table tennis I keep refreshing my FB. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 26, 2013 12:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane:
Argument with tears? Cancer
I've noticed cancers like to play the victim a lot in arguments. They don't argue about the subject, they somehow steer the whole thing around feelings and they come out ''feeling hurt''. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9168 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 26, 2013 12:49 PM
Virgo!IP: Logged |
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posted March 26, 2013 01:01 PM
Good mercury placements. I will rarely lose an argument unless I don't care about it. I have sun conjunct mercury in the third, in Virgo. Geminis are great arguers they can pick at a person in creative ways, I've always enjoyed them for that. However, to me If i have sense, you can't argue with me, if I'm presenting facts no matter what you say I will believe I'm right and see you as just twisting around the truth. I have an Aqua moon which really holds me down, I usually argue about societal injustices or sticking up for people I see as being treated poorly, and believe me when I'm passionate i won't lose, and if you want to argue against me I take it as if you're arguing against humanity. I rarely argue for selfish reasons, I've known other Virgos with other placements to do this though, and it's annoyed me greatly at the selfishness. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 11952 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 26, 2013 01:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: Leo,"might is right".I've noticed in LL as well,Stacy Lewis is one,it's been a while since I have not seen CIND3R in LL but man she could argue,don't know her sun sign but I've always thought there must be some leo.I have not noticed that with you though Aquarius comes next,don't know whether they win or not but surely they don't lose because they are really stubborn,more than even mighty taurus in my experience,reminds me of aquaguy. I think Aries can also argue pretty well,I have noticed that hannarama can argue pretty well,Kerosene as well,must be his mars in aries. Virgos are also said to be good at arguing but ones I know have placements in Libra and their arguments usually end in a draw.
I do have a taurus moon.
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 26, 2013 01:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by CherryVodka: Good mercury placements. I will rarely lose an argument unless I don't care about it. I have sun conjunct mercury in the third, in Virgo. However, to me If i have sense, you can't argue with me, if I'm presenting facts no matter what you say I will believe I'm right and see you as just twisting around the truth.
I have an Aqua moon which really holds me down, I usually argue about societal injustices or sticking up for people I see as being treated poorly, and believe me when I'm passionate i won't lose, and if you want to argue against me I take it as if you're arguing against humanity.
I have mercury conjunct sun too,and same here I don't remember losing an argument unless I don't really care about it.
I fight for the underdogs too. Do you have mars sq neptune by any chance? IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 4618 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted March 26, 2013 01:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by CherryVodka: Good mercury placements. I will rarely lose an argument unless I don't care about it. I have sun conjunct mercury in the third, in Virgo. Geminis are great arguers they can pick at a person in creative ways, I've always enjoyed them for .
Same for me here. Im a Virgo Sun with Virgo Mercury/Pluto conjunction and a Gemini Moon in 3th house and I cannot even imagine losing an argument. I only argue when I am convinced in my theory, thou. I also would let the other party win sometimes if I want to make them feel good about themselves in my presense. I am manipulative that way. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 26, 2013 01:54 PM
^^ me too, more so if I like the other party
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posted March 26, 2013 02:00 PM
Well, I don't want to admit to that but yeah I do that too lol.I actually do have Mars Square Neptune, how'd you guess that? My Mars is in Libra which adds to my arguing only for good reason. I'm really defensive for a Libra mars though, it's also Squaring Uranus in Capricorn. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 11273 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted March 26, 2013 02:01 PM
Depends. Who are we arguing with? Leos are good arguers and I hate it because it turns competitive between us, but I think them or Libra moons are the only ones who can beat me in an argument.Aries Mercury, Mars in Gemini, Mars conj. ASC. Sun Sextile Mars. IP: Logged |
Astro_Curious Knowflake Posts: 47 From: Washington, DC, USA Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 26, 2013 02:08 PM
Cancer is a personal sign, so we approach topics/arguments from that position. We win arguments not with tears necessarily (yea, I know that was a joke) but by pathos and getting people to put themselves in a certain position so that they see the Cancerian point of view. There are very few topics that don’t have or can’t illicit a type of emotion or reaction. So we do stay on subject and we manipulate emotional response. If no one cared about the subject then we probably wouldn’t be talking about it to begin with. My vote: A strong Mars in a fire or earth house.
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 26, 2013 02:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by CherryVodka: Well, I don't want to admit to that but yeah I do that too lol.I actually do have Mars Square Neptune, how'd you guess that? My Mars is in Libra which adds to my arguing only for good reason. I'm really defensive for a Libra mars though, it's also Squaring Uranus in Capricorn.
Because I fight for the underdogs too.I'm very passionate about it. Your post resonated with me.I read it's my mars sq neptune exact that is responsible, I even gain a certain popularity because of it even though my actions supporting the underprivileged will be behind the curtains so to speak. IP: Logged |
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posted March 26, 2013 02:15 PM
Well, I WAS the underdog and still am in many ways. I was picked on in High School, and hold a contempt for anyone I see making others sad. I won't hesitate to ruin these people's lives who are causing it though. Weird because I am sensitive and easily hurt, but I will kill myself in a fight before I let them. The clash is because Mars says F that man! These people need a taste of their own medicine but Neptune has kindness for all mankind and believes we are all in effect to one another. I'm still very conflicted with this, do you feel this way or no? IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 8636 From: Olympus Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 26, 2013 02:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: Leo,"might is right".I've noticed in LL as well,Stacy Lewis is one,it's been a while since I have not seen CIND3R in LL but man she could argue,don't know her sun sign but I've always thought there must be some leo.I have not noticed that with you though Aquarius comes next,don't know whether they win or not but surely they don't lose because they are really stubborn,more than even mighty taurus in my experience,reminds me of aquaguy. I think Aries can also argue pretty well,I have noticed that hannarama can argue pretty well,Kerosene as well,must be his mars in aries. Virgos are also said to be good at arguing but ones I know have placements in Libra and their arguments usually end in a draw.
Hahaha, I think you're right. Met an Aqua man recently and though I have an Aries Mars in the 3rd (!!) (Mars is 3H ruler too!!) I couldn't keep up with his dogmatic attitude. It was about astrology and man he started to pour out narrow judgments. Though I am a fast typist I couldn't keep up with him, decided I don't need to, since I sure as hell don't want to have such a person around, so I gave him the boot. Aries is brief. I for instance will never argue endlessly, I don't have the patience or the stamina. And honestly I don't see the point in giving you that much attention if you cannot accept diversity of thought. Especially if I think you're being judgmental or intolerant, I will simply decide you're not worth my time and effort and ignore the hell out of you. I'm also the type who walks out during an argument slamming the door saying "You're impossible" lol. I just don't have the patience to stick around. Plus my Mars is opposite Pluto and I avoid anger like the plague because your ego might not survive to argue another day. But honestly while I like a little harmless arguing because of my Mars (that's usually foreplay ), overall I am pro harmony and peace (also have Venus in 3rd). IP: Logged |
florence Knowflake Posts: 1137 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted March 26, 2013 02:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: I've noticed cancers like to play the victim a lot in arguments. They don't argue about the subject, they somehow steer the whole thing around feelings and they come out ''feeling hurt''.
i'm not a cancer & don't especially like cancer but people have different stakes in an argument - for some, they don't care who is right but how they feel about it. which in some ways seems as valid a reason as any. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 26, 2013 02:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astro_Curious: Cancer is a personal sign, so we approach topics/arguments from that position. We win arguments not with tears necessarily (yea, I know that was a joke) but by pathos and getting people to put themselves in a certain position so that they see the Cancerian point of view. There are very few topics that don’t have or can’t illicit a type of emotion or reaction. So we do stay on subject and we manipulate emotional response. If no one cared about the subject then we probably wouldn’t be talking about it to begin with. My vote: A strong Mars in a fire or earth house.
TBH, that's my issue with cancers,they can't differentiate between debating on a point/reasoning raised or put forth and personalizing the point that was raised. Although I have my moon in cancer, I have Mars in virgo, a stellium in leo including Mercury. I never approach topics/arguments personally and I never target the person arguing with me. My arrows will be aimed at the points raised by the other person. Nevertheless, it does happen to me that even after I won an argument I think of a much better counter argument that I'll mentally kick myself for not having thought about it while the arguing was still on IP: Logged |
libraschoice77 Knowflake Posts: 1740 From: A Danielle Steele Novel Registered: Aug 2010
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posted March 26, 2013 02:29 PM
My husbands brother wins arguements by playing the victim card all the time. Even when its so obvious that hes wrong, he makes it out to be where other people had drove him to do wrong, he acts like its everyone elses fault around him for treating him a certain way...hes a Taurus Sun and Aries Moon, not sure of his other placements though.IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 26, 2013 02:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by florence: i'm not a cancer & don't especially like cancer but people have different stakes in an argument - for some, they don't care who is right but how they feel about it. which in some ways seems as valid a reason as any.
Arguing over something doesn't necessarily have to be personal. My post was related to the fact that cancers often use the victim card when they feel they are losing an argument. The cancers I know will end up twisting the words and make it sound like you are insulting them.My mum is a great example and she does it so well. IP: Logged |