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ELoveCherishEndure
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posted March 27, 2013 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ELoveCherishEndure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
True. They give their heart entirely until they have been thoroughly crushed. They realize the only thing left to do is go out and try to find someone to confide in and be intimate with if their partner is continually untrue.

My Taurus friend had this situation with her husband until she divorced him. Eventually, it was just them cheating on each other yet still married and in the same house.

I tend to learn a lot about partnerships by observing the ones around me.


The funny thing is I have all the fixed energy in my chart BUT Taurus... I have tons of Scorp in me though.

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posted March 27, 2013 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ELoveCherishEndure:
The funny thing is I have all the fixed energy in my chart BUT Taurus... I have tons of Scorp in me though.

Are you very loyal?

I have some fixed energy in my chart. In fact, the chart ruler and the moon are both in fixed signs. Sun is mutable and ascendant, Cardinal. Love how the way fate gave me a bit of everything.

I would consider myself loyal at first. My problem is staying interested over many months or even years. Fixed signs are supposedly good at this. I am very mutable when it comes to that.

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posted March 28, 2013 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am almost all mutable - sag acs and venus, virgo mars, jupiter, uranus and pluto - moon in pisces and I'm not a cheater... HOWEVER, I do get restless if things aren't going well and my eye will wander but I wont act on it. When the going gets tough I'll try for a while but then I tend to exit the relationship. I think that's how having many mutable signs plays out, at least for me.

As far as cheaters that I've known- a lot of them have had gemini moon, mars in pisces and venus square mars. This is in no way saying that everyone with these placements is a cheater, this is just what I've observed.

Sadly, I'm seeing a trend in moon square neptune. Seriously, there are some days that I feel like an honest romantic relationship is just not in the cards for me (and that kind of sucks). After getting burned so many times a person starts to develop trust issues.

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posted March 28, 2013 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ann7:
I am almost all mutable - sag acs and venus, virgo mars, jupiter, uranus and pluto - moon in pisces and I'm not a cheater... HOWEVER, I do get restless if things aren't going well and my eye will wander but I wont act on it. When the going gets tough I'll try for a while but then I tend to exit the relationship. I think that's how having many mutable signs plays out, at least for me.

As far as cheaters that I've known- a lot of them have had gemini moon, mars in pisces and venus square mars. This is in no way saying that everyone with these placements is a cheater, this is just what I've observed.

Sadly, I'm seeing a trend in moon square neptune. Seriously, there are some days that I feel like an honest romantic relationship is just not in the cards for me (and that kind of sucks). After getting burned so many times a person starts to develop trust issues.



If you really want to be with someone, just keep trying to find the right guy. If your sun is in a house like number 7,(people oriented) you must keep trying because relationships are your purpose. It's a matter of not giving up on finding the right one.

Communication is key. If one of them is acting like a player and you don't like it, tell him to stop, if he doesn't then evaluate if you want to stay with him. Sometimes, it's just a matter of communication.

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posted March 28, 2013 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ann7:
We all know that person that's a habitual cheater and we all know that person that continually picks the wrong person and ends up getting burned. I'm curious to hear everyones take on the most common aspects of someone that is likely to cheat and the most common aspects of someone that is likely to get cheated on.

Mars Venus conjunction! BUT... if there is some other strong aspect to this conjunction, it could modify it. I've also known a few cheaters who didn't have this. Neptune the planet of deceit can play into this as well.

A friend of mine cheated when you transiting Neptune was conjunct her Venus. It was a fatal attraction, an obsession. The woman he cheated with purposely seduced him just to prove she could. It almost broke up his marriage. He had nothing in his natal chart that I could see to show this except a badly aspected Venus.

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posted March 28, 2013 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If i'm being honest this a very hard topic to give an answer to,and for me to just choose an aspect or placement it's hard because i'm not inclined to look at just one aspect or placement for just one person.

I would say that it's better to find out what is going on in synastry and composite.Any person can cheat it's built in us all,we all feel emotions and that of love and attraction etc etc for people.But i do feel strongly about how another person affects another and it's good to look at them both together instead of one separate.It's likely that you can get a good read with two people's chart together rather then looking at one person as a lone ranger,think about it if a similar situation came along with another person it might not even come to happen.The synastry must not have been strong enough,and if somebody does cheat with someone there must be a reason astrologically for them together.

Male-Female affairs

In synastry i find that Venus and Mars links in any aspect.Man's Moon and a woman's Venus. A woman's Moon and man's Mars,i think these are more likely to be the type where both would get an emotional fulfillment from the affair.

If it's just about sex~Venus-Pluto in any aspect especially opposite or square very torrid and at times damaging.Venus-Uranus liberating,unusual and random with a high level of it usually almost every time tapering off really quickly.Venus-Neptune usually leads the affair to start in secret and or living completely in each others world until one uses to many drugs or the other ends up deluding themselves into thinking this is the real thing.

Mars-Uranus most likely very random but also can be a violent affair.Mars-Pluto is the type of affair you start and then after you've ended it they're stalking you full on stalking you and i mean outside your house peaking through the bushes stalking you.I was actually talking to a woman who had an affair and she had in synastry mars-square Pluto and the guy did the phone call thing until she told me she had to change numbers because her husband answered one day.Mars-Neptune is romantic passionate but damn it's lacking any realism in an affair your sort of just vaguely bumping ugliness.

Male-Male Female-Female affairs

I think a majority of it would be Mars aspects to mars obviously,and Venus conjunct Venus.It's just that i find most lesbian and gay people find the energy comforting,woman know what it's like for a woman and men know what it's like for men.There is a true understanding of each other with these aspects.Also for women moon conjunct Moon great for emotional fulfillment in an affair,and moon-Venus contacts for women as well.For males i would say mars-Uranus weird kinky experimental and huge aggressiveness traits.Always for gay men and I've seen this there is always a link between Venus and Uranus every time.

we can speculate infidelities until the cows come home,but even the energy between two people can be hard to describe because we never really know why people cheat with someone else.There is always a different reason for everyone,not enough attention,no longer in love with their current partner,just plain horny,needing love the list goes on.

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what about sun in cancer moon in scorpio venus in taurus for a guy? is it too sensuous?

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ELoveCherishEndure
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posted March 28, 2013 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ELoveCherishEndure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Are you very loyal?

I have some fixed energy in my chart. In fact, the chart ruler and the moon are both in fixed signs. Sun is mutable and ascendant, Cardinal. Love how the way fate gave me a bit of everything.

I would consider myself loyal at first. My problem is staying interested over many months or even years. Fixed signs are supposedly good at this. I am very mutable when it comes to that.


Yes, a little too loyal to a point of wondering if it is worth being that loyal. Once you are on my team, it is hard to get rid of you even if you are disloyal. It is an unconditional loyalty and it can be a curse most definitely. I have the Scorpio/Plutonian energy all over me. But I definitely have a lot of Aquarian energy and my midheaven is Leo I think that is enough for me.

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LinaG
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posted March 28, 2013 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LinaG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon/Venus in Scorpio like passionate dangerous connections (the one I know).

Gemini sun and moon love open relationships that are not necessary cheating, but for me it is.

I think Virgo women like to have secret affairs and not telling around.

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posted March 28, 2013 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ELoveCherishEndure:
Yes, a little too loyal to a point of wondering if it is worth being that loyal. Once you are on my team, it is hard to get rid of you even if you are disloyal. It is an unconditional loyalty and it can be a curse most definitely. I have the Scorpio/Plutonian energy all over me. But I definitely have a lot of Aquarian energy and my midheaven is Leo I think that is enough for me.

You sound like a good catch for a lot of people, then, since this is what many people like in others. Should be able to find plenty of friends.

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posted March 28, 2013 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw a post on AmiAnne's website about "players" that seemed pretty legit..

Look to the 5th house.
Rulers of the 10th, 9th, 8th, 7th, possibly 1st in the 5th house could give people a more detached "it's just for funsies" attitude about relationships.

My 10th (Mars), 8th(Uranus), and 7th (Uranus) house rulers all fall in my Sag 5th house. I can't say I've never cheated or that I *never* would again. Different situations do provoke different reactions.
I AM however a constant flirt. I even flirt with people I'm not sexually interested in. Like I just can't help myself but to throw that smile or wink in. I've put myself in a pickle one or 10 times because of this.. having to back away graciously, "sorry for the misunderstanding, no i don't want to make out with you" type of thing lol

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posted March 29, 2013 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hm. After having read through all the posts, and seeing how mutable folks tend to be the top contenders; I'm almost afraid to add to the sterotype.

Fixed ASC/DSC (Leo/Aquarius)
Fixed Moon (Taurus in Aries ruled 10th)
Fixed NN (Taurus in 10th again)
Fixed Pluto Rx (Scorpio in Libra ruled 4th)
Chart Ruler: Mutable Sun in Pisces in Pisces ruled 9th (Naturally Sag-mutable house)
Cardinal Venus (Aries in Pisces ruled 9th)
Mutable Mars/Uranus/Saturn (Sag in Scorpio ruled 5th)

And since that was mostly listed out so I could get my thoughts straight; in summary:

My fixed Ascendant is ruled by a mutable Sun.
My fixed Descendant is ruled by a mutable Uranus as is my 8th house.
My fixed Moon/NN are ruled by cardinal Venus, and that SHOULD be a bit redeeming. Until you see that cardinal (Aries) Venus is in a natally (Pisces) and naturally (Sag) mutable house. And Mars, my Venus' ruler is in a mutable sign.


All I gotta say is thank goodness for Saturn.

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posted March 29, 2013 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for themischievousone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LinaG:

Gemini sun and moon love open relationships that are not necessary cheating, but for me it is.

I think Virgo women like to have secret affairs and not telling around.


Why do you have to put me on blast like that? LOL jk

The last line made me giggle.
A complete no-no if married in my opinion.

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ELoveCherishEndure
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posted March 29, 2013 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ELoveCherishEndure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
You sound like a good catch for a lot of people, then, since this is what many people like in others. Should be able to find plenty of friends.[/B]

I wish I wasn't so shy...remember I am a Scorpio ascendant but I also have tons of malefic aspects that change this up for me.

Moon square Venus being the most immediate and Sun square Saturn being another


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posted March 29, 2013 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ELoveCherishEndure:
I wish I wasn't so shy...remember I am a Scorpio ascendant but I also have tons of malefic aspects that change this up for me.

Moon square Venus being the most immediate and Sun square Saturn being another


Oi vey
You should remember ALWAYS to not be hard on yourself. Other people judge all the time, you don't need to do it, too *hug*

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posted March 29, 2013 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Why do you have to put me on blast like that? LOL jk

The last line made me giggle.
A complete no-no if married in my opinion.


But only if married? If there's no ring, the Virgo will play?

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posted March 29, 2013 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Mutable is changeable and fickle. Cardinal can be action oriented. Fixed signs are the ones who are supposedly steadfast and true.

Yep! That's why I get my cats "FIXED" (wink, wink).

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posted March 29, 2013 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ELoveCherishEndure:
I wish I wasn't so shy...remember I am a Scorpio ascendant but I also have tons of malefic aspects that change this up for me.

Moon square Venus being the most immediate and Sun square Saturn being another



I have Venus square Saturn and am shy, too and my progressed ascendant is in Scorpio with Neptune. It can be difficult at times. I tend to stay quiet. Do you find you are quieter with Scorpio ascendant since Scorpio rules secretive nature and all?

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posted March 29, 2013 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for themischievousone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LionFish:
But only if married? If there's no ring, the Virgo will play?

I can't speak for all virgos. I have a gemini moon as well.

There needs to be a high level of seriousness. I have a belief that if there's not a seriousness like living together or some sort of commitment, the guy is probably out doing other...things. I'm certainly not going to sit around. Otherwise, very faithful.

"Cause if you liked it, then you should have put a ring on it." LOL jk

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posted March 29, 2013 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ELoveCherishEndure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LionFish:
Oi vey
You should remember ALWAYS to not be hard on yourself. Other people judge all the time, you don't need to do it, too *hug*

Thankies....
I tend to be hardest on myself.
But, lately... I haven't been into school like I want to be. I have never really been into school yet don't know why. I think it may come from how I was picked on and since I have a weak Mars, I didn't know how to defend myself. I guess I was always sure of myself but so many people weren't and it made me resort to all of the negative traits of Scorpio by accident. The critical, lazy, and rude parts. I know that I am at heart very sweet, loyal,compassionate, and SEXUAL. The main thing I try to suppress due to the fact that all Scorpio is associated with is "freak" and that I'm not. I don't want to be a sex toy and hate one night stands but will do them anyways... I allow too much and this brings me back to my Mars. I don't have the strength that I should. Or I ignore my own strength is moreso what I do.

A S/N though: Does anyone have vivid sexual fantasies that just won't go away about a particular person that you feel like really happened? Like it is like it happened metaphysically or something. I mean you know it is that person but it feels different... or maybe it is the Scorpio in me talking again. In other words, do you feel like you see things that have happened and you feel they have happened but your body isn't there though? Could just be me....

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posted March 29, 2013 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ELoveCherishEndure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I have Venus square Saturn and am shy, too and my progressed ascendant is in Scorpio with Neptune. It can be difficult at times. I tend to stay quiet. Do you find you are quieter with Scorpio ascendant since Scorpio rules secretive nature and all?

Well, my progressed Sun is in Sag currently and I do feel more out of my shell than usual. But, I am still pretty shy because I am still a Scorpio ascendant and yes, I am still a woman of few words but again, my progressed Sun is in Sag so I am much more talkative than I used to be but some of that is because I have a tendency to drool sometimes when I talk for a while (Saturn in 3rd house) It can be a challenge but I value my Saturn making communication so challenging for me... another thread entirely but yes, in short, I am very quiet.

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posted March 29, 2013 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ELoveCherishEndure:
Well, my progressed Sun is in Sag currently and I do feel more out of my shell than usual. But, I am still pretty shy because I am still a Scorpio ascendant and yes, I am still a woman of few words but again, my progressed Sun is in Sag so I am much more talkative than I used to be but some of that is because I have a tendency to drool sometimes when I talk for a while (Saturn in 3rd house) It can be a challenge but I value my Saturn making communication so challenging for me... another thread entirely but yes, in short, I am very quiet.

I have a problem with my throat, lol. If I talk to much, it hurts for some reason so I tend to clam up. I can talk for a while but talking for hours each day really takes its toll and I have to shush a few days to get it to stop.

I feel a bit more communicative due to the transits in my seventh house at the moment (natally I am a Libra ascendant.) I didn't think I would notice them this much. I do have the urge to reach out a bit more than usual.

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posted March 29, 2013 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ELoveCherishEndure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I have a problem with my throat, lol. If I talk to much, it hurts for some reason so I tend to clam up. I can talk for a while but talking for hours each day really takes its toll and I have to shush a few days to get it to stop.

I feel a bit more communicative due to the transits in my seventh house at the moment (natally I am a Libra ascendant.) I didn't think I would notice them this much. I do have the urge to reach out a bit more than usual.


I can relate to you completely. I have to drink something all the time. I actually think I am more than likely functionally malnourished (in spite of my hearty appearance) because I need more veggies and water.

But, I do tend to swallow a lot when I talk.

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posted March 29, 2013 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for a_may_gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To see signs of a "cheater" in a natal chart requires quite a bit of study on that particular chart. I would suggest to study a person's Mars and how it works with the Sun, Jupiter, and Saturn for starters. Check to see what houses Mars and Venus are in and how they aspect outer planets. There's a long list of of things to look for when it comes to cheating/ catching a "cheater."

I laughed too hard read ins the previous post prematurely accusing those a lot of mutable energy as cheaters. My energy is mostly mutable (3 Gemini planets, 1 Pisces, 1 Sagittarius), and I NEVER cheated on anyone.

Even more funny is Libra being labeled a "cheater" sign as that's NOT accurate at all. I have 3 planets in Libra (Jupiter, Libra, Pluto) in addition to being a Libra rising- again, I never cheated.

Saturn is the most disciplined planet and exalts in Libra. Not to say that those with Libra Saturn aren't cheaters or can't cheat, but then again, what would be the point of Saturn exalting in Libra if Libra is suppose to be a cheater and lack self control? Gimme a break. The Ancients knew what they were talking about when they set up the astrological system.

The silliness I read from immature people on this forum thinking they "know" astrology and spreading misinformation about as if it's were engraved in stone!

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