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Ann7
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posted March 27, 2013 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We all know that person that's a habitual cheater and we all know that person that continually picks the wrong person and ends up getting burned. I'm curious to hear everyones take on the most common aspects of someone that is likely to cheat and the most common aspects of someone that is likely to get cheated on.

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posted March 27, 2013 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if I've been cheated on, but I tend to attract "player" types or guys that are never completely interested in me (meaning they like me, but they like this girl too. And that girl. And her aunt.) I have Sun, Mercury and Venus square Saturn and Neptune, all semi-square Jupiter, and Uranus and Neptune in the 7th house which is ruled by my Sag DSC. Mars in the 12th house too but I think that would make someone more susceptible to committing infidelity than being cheated ON.

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posted March 27, 2013 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
venus sq neptune is the worse aspect for a woman of all time

next is moon sq neptune

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posted March 27, 2013 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with the Neptune stuff. I've seen Pisces/Neptunian people cheat, AND get cheated on.

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posted March 27, 2013 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swampys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I attract men that like me but LOTS of other girls, too! And I'm always aware of that and I think that's why I'd cheat.

I don't even want to cheat but I do it to defend myself from getting more hurt. They never know because I'm good at hiding my relationships. I really just want a partner I can trust and that would ONLY LIKE ME! Just ONCE! Like ONLY ME, PLEASE! I've never had this experience. A couple months ago I dated this guy out of impulse (but I still consider myself never having a boyfriend) and even then he liked other girls but said he didn't like anyone more than me. He told me that before we started dating so I entered into our relationship already feeling hurt and distrustful.

I'd probably be most faithful when I feel secure and when I'm made to feel special in positive ways and where my fears are illuminated and I also feel equal. But really, this never happens and it kills me.

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posted March 27, 2013 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon square neptune but it's a wide angle (7 degrees). I definitely have a knack for picking Mr. Wrong, lol.

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posted March 27, 2013 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swampys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by swampys:
I attract men that like me but LOTS of other girls, too! And I'm always aware of that and I think that's why I'd cheat.

I don't even want to cheat but I do it to defend myself from getting more hurt. They never know because I'm good at hiding my relationships. I really just want a partner I can trust and that would ONLY LIKE ME! Just ONCE! Like ONLY ME, PLEASE! I've never had this experience. A couple months ago I dated this guy out of impulse (but I still consider myself never having a boyfriend) and even then he liked other girls but said he didn't like anyone more than me. He told me that before we started dating so I entered into our relationship already feeling hurt and distrustful.

I'd probably be most faithful when I feel secure and when I'm made to feel special in positive ways and where my fears are illuminated and I also feel equal. But really, this never happens and it kills me.


EDIT: I have Moon opposite Neptune.

Didn't mean to quote! Sorry!

And LOL! eliminated*

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posted March 27, 2013 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Swampys, I totally understand. I haven't cheated but I get wanting to protect your heart... There is nothing worse than being played. My favorite is the guy that checks out every other chick in the room when he's with me.

I tend to attract and be attracted to Sag. They are not known for being faithful (lots of fun, though).

(I don't want to turn this into a man bashing post because women cheat, too. I'm just speaking from my own personal experience).

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posted March 27, 2013 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swampys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ann7:
Swampys, I totally understand. I haven't cheated but I get wanting to protect your heart... There is nothing worse than being played. My favorite is the guy that checks out every other chick in the room when he's with me.

I tend to attract and be attracted to Sag. They are not known for being faithful (lots of fun, though).

(I don't want to turn this into a man bashing post because women cheat, too. I'm just speaking from my own personal experience).


Ugh! The guy I've been in love with since the moment I met him (two and a half years ago) has Venus is Sagittarius and I know he's never going to date me. He's been open about liking other girls (but thankfully never talks about them!). Once I asked, though, and he said he actually liked others more than me. He uses me a lot. I used to follow him on Tumblr and I'd have to see him flirt with these stupid girls. And one girl who liked him would try to make me jealous but cleverly. I've stayed pretty devoted to him except I still seek other men so I have something to distract myself from all the pain I get from the one guy everyday. I don't feel I can leave until I've won him over. :/ I think my ego is heavily involved.

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posted March 27, 2013 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been looking at the charts of serial cheaters, and they have some stuff in common:

Lots of mutable energy (especially the Ascendant, Moon, and/or Venus in mutable signs)
-Mario Lopez (cheated on his wife on his honeymoon! wtf!)- Pisces Ascendant, Venus in Sag
-Eddie Cibrian- Gemini Sun
-Magic Johnson- Venus/Mars in Virgo
-John Edwards- Sun and Moon in Gemini
-Gene Simmons- Sun and Moon in Virgo
-Usher-Pisces Moon
-Jude Law- Sag Asc and Venus
-Hugh Grant: Virgo Sun and Asc
-Charlie Sheen- Virgo sun, Sag Moon
-Tiger Woods- Virgo Asc, Sag moon

Lots of Uranus aspects (need for freedom, can't be tied down, etc..)
-Venus and/or Mars square/conj/opp Uranus (Usher, Eddie Cibrian, David Letterman)
-Sun conjunct Uranus (Mario Lopez, Jack Nicholson, Charlie Sheen)

Venus-Jupiter aspects (pleasure-seeking)
-Jack Nicholson- Venus square Jupiter
-Mario Balotelli- Venus conjunct Jupiter exact

Strong Neptune (deceptive, possible sexual addictions)
-Mario Lopez- Venus conj Neptune
-Gene Simmons- Venus conj Neptune (and square Uranus)
-Hugh Grant- Moon opp Neptune
-Tiger Woods- Mars opposite Neptune (Mars rules his 8th house)

****Of COURSE, not EVERYONE with these aspects will be a cheater.***** The whole chart matters.

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posted March 27, 2013 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ELoveCherishEndure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starfairy:
I agree with the Neptune stuff. I've seen Pisces/Neptunian people cheat, AND get cheated on.

WOW, I didn't know that. I have a Neptune in Cap and it is in my third house so... I am not sure about how that would affect that but I do have a moon/venus square and I'm sorry, that is the WORST aspect for a women EVER.

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posted March 27, 2013 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starfairy:
I've been looking at the charts of serial cheaters, and they have some stuff in common:

Lots of mutable energy (especially the Ascendant, Moon, and/or Venus in mutable signs)
-Mario Lopez (cheated on his wife on his honeymoon! wtf!)- Pisces Ascendant, Venus in Sag
-Eddie Cibrian- Gemini Sun
-Magic Johnson- Venus/Mars in Virgo
-John Edwards- Sun and Moon in Gemini
-Gene Simmons- Sun and Moon in Virgo
-Usher-Pisces Moon
-Jude Law- Sag Asc and Venus
-Hugh Grant: Virgo Sun and Asc
-Charlie Sheen- Virgo sun, Sag Moon
-Tiger Woods- Virgo Asc, Sag moon

Lots of Uranus aspects (need for freedom, can't be tied down, etc..)
-Venus and/or Mars square/conj/opp Uranus (Usher, Eddie Cibrian, David Letterman)
-Sun conjunct Uranus (Mario Lopez, Jack Nicholson, Charlie Sheen)

Venus-Jupiter aspects (pleasure-seeking)
-Jack Nicholson- Venus square Jupiter
-Mario Balotelli- Venus conjunct Jupiter exact

Strong Neptune (deceptive, possible sexual addictions)
-Mario Lopez- Venus conj Neptune
-Gene Simmons- Venus conj Neptune (and square Uranus)
-Hugh Grant- Moon opp Neptune
-Tiger Woods- Mars opposite Neptune (Mars rules his 8th house)

****Of COURSE, not EVERYONE with these aspects will be a cheater.***** The whole chart matters.


Granted, men tend to cheat more, but it was interesting how you didn't list any women. lol

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posted March 27, 2013 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ELoveCherishEndure:
WOW, I didn't know that. I have a Neptune in Cap and it is in my third house so... I am not sure about how that would affect that but I do have a moon/venus square and I'm sorry, that is the WORST aspect for a women EVER.

I have Moon sq Venus, too. It SUCKS.

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ELoveCherishEndure
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posted March 27, 2013 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ELoveCherishEndure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starfairy:
I've been looking at the charts of serial cheaters, and they have some stuff in common:

Lots of mutable energy (especially the Ascendant, Moon, and/or Venus in mutable signs)
-Mario Lopez (cheated on his wife on his honeymoon! wtf!)- Pisces Ascendant, Venus in Sag
-Eddie Cibrian- Gemini Sun
-Magic Johnson- Venus/Mars in Virgo
-John Edwards- Sun and Moon in Gemini
-Gene Simmons- Sun and Moon in Virgo
-Usher-Pisces Moon
-Jude Law- Sag Asc and Venus
-Hugh Grant: Virgo Sun and Asc
-Charlie Sheen- Virgo sun, Sag Moon
-Tiger Woods- Virgo Asc, Sag moon

Lots of Uranus aspects (need for freedom, can't be tied down, etc..)
-Venus and/or Mars square/conj/opp Uranus (Usher, Eddie Cibrian, David Letterman)
-Sun conjunct Uranus (Mario Lopez, Jack Nicholson, Charlie Sheen)

Venus-Jupiter aspects (pleasure-seeking)
-Jack Nicholson- Venus square Jupiter
-Mario Balotelli- Venus conjunct Jupiter exact

Strong Neptune (deceptive, possible sexual addictions)
-Mario Lopez- Venus conj Neptune
-Gene Simmons- Venus conj Neptune (and square Uranus)
-Hugh Grant- Moon opp Neptune
-Tiger Woods- Mars opposite Neptune (Mars rules his 8th house)

****Of COURSE, not EVERYONE with these aspects will be a cheater.***** The whole chart matters.


I think it is the combination of Usher's Libra Sun with that Pisces Moon that creates his infidelity issues. And I bet there is also some kind of fixed energy in the sexual area that can create that element of cheating, I bet.

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posted March 27, 2013 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Granted, men tend to cheat more, but it was interesting how you didn't list any women. lol

It was inadvertent. I typed in "serial celebrity cheaters", and the first 10 lists I found had absolutely no women on it.

Anyway, JUST FOR YOU, I looked up "celebrity cheaters female", and:

Tori Spelling: Venus opposite Neptune
Meg Ryan: Venus conj Neptune exact, Uranus square Mars
Valerie Bertenelli: Venus square Jupiter, Sun opposite Neptune
Ingrid Bergman: Sun and Venus in Virgo, Neptune square Moon
Anne Heche: Gem Sun, Virgo Moon, Sun opposite Neptune

Lots of Neptune there.. And 3 of the 5 women I listed (and Mario Lopez) have Moon in Aries.

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posted March 27, 2013 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, Libra is known for cheating, too, or at least that's what I read.

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posted March 27, 2013 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ELoveCherishEndure:
I think it is the combination of Usher's Libra Sun with that Pisces Moon that creates his infidelity issues. And I bet there is also some kind of fixed energy in the sexual area that can create that element of cheating, I bet.

Yeah, there were quite a few Libran men on that list, as well! JFK was a Libra Ascendant.. and Usher is a libra Sun.. same with Mario Lopez..

I also noticed there were quite a few people with Leo energy, as well...

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posted March 27, 2013 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
venus sq neptune is the worse aspect for a woman of all time

next is moon sq neptune


I have moon trine neptune though, so how does that help? I'm not really scared of getting cheated on. Getting cheated on happens to anybody - small, short, fat, ugly, whatever. At the most I think Venus square Neptune would cause an individual to stay in a bad relationship with the hope it'll change.

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posted March 27, 2013 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon opposite Neptune probably doesn't help, either, but it doesn't concern me. Why worry about something I can't do anything about?

My chart doesn't seem to support partnerships or fidelity.

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posted March 27, 2013 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ELoveCherishEndure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starfairy:
Yeah, there were quite a few Libran men on that list, as well! JFK was a Libra Ascendant.. and Usher is a libra Sun.. same with Mario Lopez..

I also noticed there were quite a few people with Leo energy, as well...


Not surprising with the Leos... just broke up with one who now wants to claim he was never really my boyfriend so therefore it wasn't cheating and he wants to be celibate until marriage now .... after knocking up another chick and her having an abortion. And he has a Virgo Stellium (Mercury,Venus.Mars)

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posted March 27, 2013 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ELoveCherishEndure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starfairy:
I have Moon sq Venus, too. It SUCKS.

It does but I do think I'll find someone as long as I keep my head on straight. I just have to learn how to balance what I want with what I need.

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posted March 27, 2013 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for themischievousone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starfairy:
I've been looking at the charts of serial cheaters, and they have some stuff in common:

Lots of mutable energy (especially the Ascendant, Moon, and/or Venus in mutable signs)
-Mario Lopez (cheated on his wife on his honeymoon! wtf!)- Pisces Ascendant, Venus in Sag
-Eddie Cibrian- Gemini Sun
-Magic Johnson- Venus/Mars in Virgo
-John Edwards- Sun and Moon in Gemini
-Gene Simmons- Sun and Moon in Virgo
-Usher-Pisces Moon
-Jude Law- Sag Asc and Venus
-Hugh Grant: Virgo Sun and Asc
-Charlie Sheen- Virgo sun, Sag Moon
-Tiger Woods- Virgo Asc, Sag moon

Lots of Uranus aspects (need for freedom, can't be tied down, etc..)
-Venus and/or Mars square/conj/opp Uranus (Usher, Eddie Cibrian, David Letterman)
-Sun conjunct Uranus (Mario Lopez, Jack Nicholson, Charlie Sheen)

Venus-Jupiter aspects (pleasure-seeking)
-Jack Nicholson- Venus square Jupiter
-Mario Balotelli- Venus conjunct Jupiter exact

Strong Neptune (deceptive, possible sexual addictions)
-Mario Lopez- Venus conj Neptune
-Gene Simmons- Venus conj Neptune (and square Uranus)
-Hugh Grant- Moon opp Neptune
-Tiger Woods- Mars opposite Neptune (Mars rules his 8th house)

****Of COURSE, not EVERYONE with these aspects will be a cheater.***** The whole chart matters.


newbie question - why mutable signs/energy?

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posted March 27, 2013 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mutable is changeable and fickle. Cardinal can be action oriented. Fixed signs are the ones who are supposedly steadfast and true.

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posted March 27, 2013 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ELoveCherishEndure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Mutable is changeable and fickle. Cardinal can be action oriented. Fixed signs are the ones who are supposedly steadfast and true.

I think the thing about fixed signs is that is only true as long as loyalty is extended... or at least that is how I see it.

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posted March 27, 2013 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ELoveCherishEndure:
I think the thing about fixed signs is that is only true as long as loyalty is extended... or at least that is how I see it.

True. They give their heart entirely until they have been thoroughly crushed. They realize the only thing left to do is go out and try to find someone to confide in and be intimate with if their partner is continually untrue.

My Taurus friend had this situation with her husband until she divorced him. Eventually, it was just them cheating on each other yet still married and in the same house.

I tend to learn a lot about partnerships by observing the ones around me.

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