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Jessica2407
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posted March 29, 2013 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Lmao! You can be king. The king needs to be a fellow Leo riser.

Ahhh, am a natural effortless queen and am not a leo riser

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somethingexcellent
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posted March 29, 2013 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My theory is how Jupiter plays out in the chart. See with me, Jupiter in Scorpio, I want to secure myself and pursue my desires, which in this case, is shining like the sun I come from.

Jupiter itself I think is your pursuits and what stars you seek.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 29, 2013 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MorteImperator:
Capricorn placements are the main thing for this type of personality

no, capricorn placements are generally associated with this type of personality.

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somethingexcellent
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posted March 29, 2013 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're not a fellow Leo riser!? Oh wait! That's right! It's the other way around.

I thought you were a Capricorn whoops.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 29, 2013 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
My theory is how Jupiter plays out in the chart. See with me, Jupiter in Scorpio, I want to secure myself and pursue my desires, which in this case, is shining like the sun I come from.

Jupiter itself I think is your pursuits and what stars you seek.

I just want to understand

I'm not power hungry at all. As for authority, I don't have to seek it, it comes to me naturally. If a team leader is required, I'll get nominated without much trouble, even if am seated at the back of a room, I'll be pushed to take a position of authority someway or the other! I find it annoying at times...

My Jupiter sextile my sun and trine my ASC.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 29, 2013 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
You're not a fellow Leo riser!? Oh wait! That's right! It's the other way around.

I thought you were a Capricorn whoops.


no sorry, am capricorn rising, leo sun,merc,venus and saturn!! LOL

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posted March 29, 2013 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
I don't have to seek it, it comes to me naturally.

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KarkaQueen
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posted March 29, 2013 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a feeling many of these situations are imagined in LL users minds

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KarkaQueen
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posted March 29, 2013 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gross.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 29, 2013 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Lmao! You can be king. The king needs to be a fellow Leo riser.

Just noticed that I have Jupiter conjunct king at 1 degree

and sesquiquadrate aphrodite (I don't know if this aspect count?)

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posted March 29, 2013 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a friend who is self-proclaimed mercenary. i don't know his asc but jupiter appears in first house (which looks like might be leo or cancer but i don't understand how much asc can change). grand trine with uranus and merc-mars. i always thought it was sun opp pluto but maybe this will explain it somehow.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 29, 2013 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ ya, I was just thinking about that myself, I thought it has to do with sun/pluto aspects!

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posted March 29, 2013 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My step-father was just like that, Jupiter conjunct Leo Ascendant, he was prideful but mean and nasty.

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Hanneli
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posted March 29, 2013 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hanneli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in gemini in the 6th.
with me i think it just makes me all over the place and easily excitable about new projects with no foresight as to whether or not they will actually get done. i'm just a really easily excitable person haha
i'm definitely a social ladder climber, but i'm not hungry for power or authority. i want respect among the people i share this world with. i am money hungry though.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 29, 2013 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hanneli:
in gemini in the 6th.
with me i think it just makes me all over the place and easily excitable about new projects with no foresight as to whether or not they will actually get done. i'm just a really easily excitable person haha
i'm definitely a social ladder climber, but i'm not hungry for power or authority. i want respect among the people i share this world with. i am money hungry though.

so, you don't associate power with money?

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Jessica2407
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posted March 29, 2013 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find it amusing how some LL users find it.... useful (maybe) to hit below the belt.

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posted March 29, 2013 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What really is power?

To me power is respect, when you have people's respect you're powerful. But you have to gain it... when you don't have someone's respect, you're nothing but an ant. A king could have all the power in the world.. but if his people don't respect him. He is nothing.

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posted March 29, 2013 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Jupiter in Virgo 10th house conjunct my Sun

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Jessica2407
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posted March 29, 2013 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by virgolotus:
What really is power?

To me power is respect, when you have people's respect you're powerful. But you have to gain it... when you don't have someone's respect, you're nothing but an ant. A king could have all the power in the world.. but if his people don't respect him. He is nothing.


Well said

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posted March 29, 2013 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by virgolotus:
What really is power?

To me power is respect, when you have people's respect you're powerful. But you have to gain it... when you don't have someone's respect, you're nothing but an ant. A king could have all the power in the world.. but if his people don't respect him. He is nothing.


i think of power as being able to get what you want. the people who have respect seem to have that ability as a side-effect of being liked but also, they don't really seem to care about influencing others and choose not to. maybe in having all they want within themselves. but often those who have power they seem to present an image that does gain respect although maybe only shown to the people who influence decisions. which i do think is probably long-term less powerful but, if talking about climbing a ladder is relevant because it's that kind of efficiency and motivation in force.

btw my friend also has moon trine saturn and i still am new to understanding aspects together but he emits a duality of responsibility/hard and caring which i think lends itself to influencing in that way.

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LinaG
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posted March 29, 2013 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LinaG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you sure about Capricorn?

I have Venus, moon, jupiter conjunct in 10th capricorn and midhevean in capricorn too. People say I am bossy after I get to know them, but I am more of resistant to someone bossing me without reason than wanting to be on the head of some authoritative place (and I would prob not abuse it and be 100% according to the law).

I sometimes really suck at forcing people to follow some rules, or etc. I can command authority but I am not hungry for it, I am actually scared of it sometimes, of failing it or not caring about it.

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posted March 29, 2013 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i've always been kind of confused as to how jupiter manifests....mine's in aries, anybody have that too and/or would like to explain it to me?

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ELoveCherishEndure
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posted March 29, 2013 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ELoveCherishEndure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Because why not. Maybe it's the Leo rising! I don't wanna be king, just...prince.

Excellent, that explains SO much. My best friend is just all on herself all the time. But her sun sign makes it a little more complicated. Aqua with a Leo rising, interesting huh??

But since I have a Jupiter in Libra, I can't really relate much to that angle of the ladder that wants to be all about power.

And it is in the 11th, I translate that as I need my friends for luck but it may not mean that at all...

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posted March 29, 2013 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jupiter?
Jupiter is the guru, a strong jupiter makes people less likely to be power hungry. Maybe hungry for knowledge and spirituality.
Jupiter may give wealth and power but usually something jupiter blesses you with.
I wouldn't look at jupiter for power hungry individuals unless its debilitated in Capricorn.

Saturn, mars and even venus can attribute those characteristics

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posted March 29, 2013 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:

So Jupiter is responsible for seeking or not power?? I would never have associated Jupiter with power hungry,just-for-the-sake authority seekers.


For some reason Pluto comes to mind for and possibly Mars.

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