posted March 31, 2013 02:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Do you have a strong 11th house? I was trying to think of hardcore "CLUBBING" aspects in a natal chart.

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Haha, the eleventh house sun has something to do with it, maybe? My sun is in eleven trine eighth house Saturn of all planets. Not exactly a party planet but I was serious enough about clubbing!

I remember the rush I felt right after I parked while walking to the door of the club. It was like intense butterflies in the stomach and I was totally addicted to it!

posted March 31, 2013 02:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Oh god there would be...
Who are these troll astronomers who name these poor poor stars..

I AM THE MIGHTY ALGOL WHO ARE YOU?
uhm clubbing.. my name is clubbing..

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posted March 31, 2013 02:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:

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posted March 31, 2013 02:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
:3 wub ur mind too!
How is sandy doing?
Lurking I bet.

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I'm not sure.

posted March 31, 2013 02:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
:3 wub ur mind too!
How is sandy doing?
Lurking I bet.

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I miss him!

posted March 31, 2013 02:46 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Haha, the eleventh house sun has something to do with it, maybe? My sun is in eleven trine eighth house Saturn of all planets. Not exactly a party planet but I was serious enough about clubbing!

I remember the rush I felt right after I parked while walking to the door of the club. It was like intense butterflies in the stomach and I was totally addicted to it!

In my progressed chart, five planets are in eleven while the sun is in twelve, so there's much more eleventh house activity in it and I don't party as much as I did as a teen. I guess one sun outweighs five planets and I am happy enough at home with the IPOD.

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8th house intensifies everything esp with saturn.
maybe your soul purpose in life is to.... GET CRUNK.

My progressed planets are all in cancer now.(2nd house) so Im kinda a homebody now.
I've made my apartment a sanctuary of fun thou.
I was more adventurous and naughty a year or two ago..
I suppose this is good I'm more focused on my future.

posted March 31, 2013 02:49 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Hippies?

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posted March 31, 2013 02:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
I reject many of the conventional standards and societal rules so hippies much!

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posted March 31, 2013 02:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
I love silent raves

They are SO much fun!!!!!

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Yes, definitely, the Wreck Room was like pre cursor to the rave scene. Lots of fun.

posted March 31, 2013 03:03 AM            

I love this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHjdQ2db_PM

posted March 31, 2013 03:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
So basically people having seizures

I love this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHjdQ2db_PM

I hate the person who filmed ir, he probably can't dance for **** ..

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posted March 31, 2013 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
For example Beyonce gets a lot of hate for being demon or something.
Thats just ridiculous. I'm not huge fan of her but I don't think she's evil..
She just has overwhelming power and people specifically men that make all these videos are threatened by her.

I think its her scorpio moon and venus conjunct pluto.
They tend to have that intensity that just overwhelms people.

Lets get some more examples.

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From a subjective point of view (atheist - for example) - it does sound ridiculous, but if we're to look at things objectively (so many types of people, so many ways of thinking, so many cultures and so on) - It's not, it's the way things are in this world (subjective prejudice - is very common). The ones you're talking about - took her gestures (like wearing a satanic ring) seriously, at worst they see her as a satanist. This being religious people, they "fear" that idea - because Beyonce is a public figure, a music idol and some of their children might listen to her music, find her as a source of inspiration. That being said - their fear "as parents who believe in their religion" can be understandable.

As for misinterpretations - she's a popular singer but she's "one of many others". So, why her? The video you posted latter, can be taken as proof of why she's seen in such way:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=akV7fIA5pAM&feature=endscreen

heres a good laugh.

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Based on above video - one might pose a different question: Is she ignorant about what she's doing or is she's aware and tries to mislead others intentionally? Being a public figure - she has a lot of eyes on her... as i mentioned above - she's a source of inspiration for younger generations (of which some are parents).

At least Madonna and Gaga are more open about their mockeries against religion - by expressing that in a obvious way. While Jay-Z and Beyonce are playing the Led Zeppelin game (doing it for same reason) - since being more open about it like Madonna and Gaga - could imply a big loss in terms of audience (and they obviously - don't want that...).

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
So basically people having seizures

I love this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHjdQ2db_PM

I hate the person who filmed ir, he probably can't dance for **** ..

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Free dance self expression based on a personal choreography - nice.^^

So far I haven't been to any Rave festival, but there is one in EU that looks kinda fun: http://ozorafestival.eu - not that far either (less than 500 km from where i live ^^).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkXT9cjYKSI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56efXQCKok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t9lwBY00TY

posted March 31, 2013 02:30 PM            

Some stars like marilyn monroe are portrayed as a victim.
while others like Beyonce and Jay Z are portrayed as corrupt
The point of this thread was to show through astrology the misconstrued idea people have of others.
To me thats interesting subject.

posted March 31, 2013 02:32 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Do those hating Beyonce insist she's literally filled with demons or otherwise with the "Illuminati"? If so then that's for a niche crowd not to be confused with mainstream society. And they tend to believe about anyone famous is somehow connected (or controlled by) the Illuminati or Satan or whatever.

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posted March 31, 2013 02:37 PM            

Betch u cray.. Get help.

posted March 31, 2013 02:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
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I hate people like.
"YOU SHEEPLE"
"YOU POOR BRAIN WASHED CHILD"

Betch u cray.. Get help.

I do think the world is corrupt because humans are corrupt, but thats nothing new. I don't believe in evil forces trying to destroy us.
We're eventually destroy ourselves.
We're both god and the devil.

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posted March 31, 2013 02:48 PM            

Brigitte Bardot in her lifetime was portrayed badly and women use to spit on her photos. Now a days she's a sex icon.
Even thou later in her life she was she pretty controversial
People love her thou, I have to admit I really liked her in movies.
Plus she was amazingly gorgeous.
Her mc is in libra and really strong.
Her asc has plenty of squares.

posted March 31, 2013 06:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
We don't know Beyonce or Jay Z personally, so to make judgements like that are no different then witch hunts.
That is simply defamation of character, I need proof to believe such accusations. HARD EVIDENCE LOL. Videos of her face "morphing" does not count lol. Typical of religious institutions to demonize sexually expressive performers.

Some stars like marilyn monroe are portrayed as a victim.
while others like Beyonce and Jay Z are portrayed as corrupt
The point of this thread was to show through astrology the misconstrued idea people have of others.
To me thats interesting subject.

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Proof that she's a demon or a satanist? :) - cause satanism it's not what it used to be - if we take in consideration the modern versions of satanism ( http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000495.html ). I'm really not in to celebs and their private life (I'm not that type of Gemini) - but as a public figure - she has a lot of eyes on her and her actions seem to matter to a larger group of people, cause they can be influential - (while my or your actions... not so much). More recently - she seems to have a thing for Baphomet ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet ) which is a satanic symbol adapted by the Church of Satan ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Satan ). I don't know what game is she playing and i don't care. I'm not the one with the prejudice... not against her and not against those whom judge her, both parties have a reason to behave like that - both play a game which doesn't interest me. As for expressiveness in terms of sexuality :) ...i wouldn't call that typical to religious institutions, after all - this subject is oppressed even around this forum. Sand (for example) - was banned for being to expressive from this point of you. :) The poor guy - couldn't help it... as iQ noticed - he was to much in to that, to bigger part of him: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000610.html (a 7'th house Taurus with 8'th house in Gemini and ASC in Scorpio). :)

As for Marilyn Monroe... with Neptune in Ascendant, her identity was problematic even for her (Geminis - do have a tendency to over-think things... takes one to know one - i guess). But even more than that - she also had Lilith in ASC - in Leo ( http://sanjaperic.com/2005/04/28/lilith-in-leo/ )

"LILITH IN THE 1st HOUSE lets you always fight impulsively and initiatively for liberalism and fairness. You have ingenuity and foam over with energy in relations, partnerships and public-referred interests. With sexual adventures you can get enticed easily and if someone offers a leading role to you, you take it without thinking. In this position there is a tendency to come into problematic situations repeatedly, and also to understand the life life-worthy only as a kind of nonstop action."

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If we're to talk about a celebrity that's being hated... and i mean "really hated" - let's move to the prime candidate... Now, I've witnessed hate against celebs before (like Leo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt and so on...) - but even if i was to put all the hated celebs in the world - they couldn't measure to all the negativity and all the hate that surrounds this kid... yes - I'm talking about "Justin Bieber". Disliking his music - that's understandable, but "hate"... for me - that's hard to understand, as i never felt hate for a celebrity before.

His chart: