posted March 31, 2013 08:18 PM            

I notice Cancer men are portrayed as seemingly masculine. In fact violence is often associated by Cancer Men.
http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/cancer/Are-Cancers-the-most-dangerous-of-signs-1913507.asp
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111013151642AA8fLbS

You may remember this article I posted nearly half a year ago.
http://www.insightfulpsychics.com/zodiac-signs-the-relationship-between-serial-killers-criminal-behavior-and-their-signs/

So many people associate Cancer men as abusive and unstable.

I got a Pisces chatbuddy and she states she'd probably enjoy Cancer men the most as a husband. She finds their unstable and moddy personalities attractive.

My best internet friend's father is a Cancer and she states he's a violent man.

Popular media portrays this too. Cancer Deathmask from Saint Seiya was the cruelest and most violent of the Gold Saints.In the spinoff Lost Canvas, while a good guy, Cancer Manigold is easily the most violent of the Gold Saints in his generation to the point he was unafraid to take on a Greek God (though I honestly think Manigold has a Scorpio Rising; Deathmask not so much I tend to think more Aries Rising for Deathmask).

Even many of the men portrayed as examples of famous Cancer Personalities like John D. Rockefeller, while not violent thugs, were pretty aggressive and violent in other ways (in Rockefeller's case he used violence indirectly through the law).

In addition all stuff I found about Cancer Rising man states the appearance is brawny type of muscular (to be far they also state Cancer Asc. has a watery face). Saint Seiya repeats this stereotype as their Cancer Saints are among the most muscular, even more than Scorpio (Scorpio are portrayed rather more like Aries Rising than the stereotypical Scorpio Rising).

Heck one of the biggest Action Movie stars, Sylvester Stallone, is a Cancer and he sure is MUSCULAR .

Cancers and Cancer Rising I would like your take. It seems pretty ironic Cancers are portrayed this way (and the Cancers selected as famous personalities are frequently rough men).

posted March 31, 2013 08:23 PM            

this is not a hard to understand concept.

posted March 31, 2013 08:25 PM            

i really like their soft bodies too! (not flabby.. just a bit chubby)

posted March 31, 2013 08:25 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
they are ruled by the moon, of course they are moody, duh.

this is not a hard to understand concept.

i think cancer men and women are beautiful, soft features and round faces. thats not attractive to modern society tho.

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posted March 31, 2013 08:32 PM            

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Originally posted by MorteImperator:
Are Cancer Rising men as muscular as many stuff on the internet state them to be?

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They are said to be soft, nurturing with a masculine side but protective and connected to their feminine side also.

I'm not sure, I never met a Cancer Ascendant male before actually.

posted April 01, 2013 02:52 AM            

He has never laid a hand on me and I know he wouldn't...unless I did something horrible to betray him, and he has told me that. He is very tender and loving and passionate. I love the emotional volatility and intensity. But then again I have a chart that loves that sort of thing (lots of Scorpio influence going on in my chart).

He has a Pisces ASC and he does NOT look feminine at all. He is tall, lean, and built like the statue of David. He has a gorgeous, masculine body. He has a large, somewhat aqualine nose and prominent brow and forehead. He does NOT have a large chin/jaw but it is defined. He is definitely very masculine in appearance and personality, except for his emotional vulnerability..but who says that has to be a feminine quality anyway?

posted April 01, 2013 04:02 AM            

Cancer men can be aggressive, usually have anger issues and I wouldn't be surprised if they can be violent, too. At least in my experience.

They look masculine most of the time.. definitely.

The emotional drama though - can do without.

Btw not all of them are that way.
If they have a lot of Air/Jupiter then chances are they won't be as intense/emotional.

And an afflicted/prominent Mars is almost always present in the charts of people who have anger issues, so don't just look at the Sun sign.

posted April 01, 2013 04:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Yes.

Cancer men can be aggressive, usually have anger issues and I wouldn't be surprised if they can be violent, too. At least in my experience.

They look masculine most of the time.. definitely.

The emotional drama though - can do without.

Btw not all of them are that way.
If they have a lot of Air/Jupiter then chances are they won't be as intense/emotional.

And an afflicted/prominent Mars is almost always present in the charts of people who have anger issues, so don't just look at the Sun sign.

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All men have the potential to be aggressive. So do all women. I read that statistically most murderers are Gemini, not Cancer.

As far as the afflicted Mars thing goes - actually, Jeffrey Dahmer had Mars trine Pluto, not square.

posted April 01, 2013 04:19 AM            

Thing is though, they tend to be REALLY serious about what they care about, there are some lines never to be crossed with Cancerians

posted April 01, 2013 04:23 AM            

But some people are more prone to act on their anger while others are "calmer". Cancer is a cardinal sign, they take action or boil inside. And Mars trine Pluto is a pretty strong Mars.. energy flows effortlessly.

Gemini - murderers? They probably had some Cancer in them

And no, the Cancers I've known were not caring or nurturing. More like self-centered and controlling.

It depends.

Btw not saying they aren't or can't be nurturing/sweet etc. Just that not all of them are.

posted April 01, 2013 04:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Well obviously everyone can be violent

But some people are more prone to act on their anger while others are "calmer". Cancer is a cardinal sign, they take action or boil inside. And Mars trine Pluto is a pretty strong Mars.. energy flows effortlessly.

Gemini - murderers? They probably had some Cancer in them

And no, the Cancers I've known were not caring or nurturing. More like self-centered and controlling.

It depends.

Btw not saying they aren't or can't be nurturing/sweet etc. Just that not all of them are.

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"Taking action" can mean any number of things besides violence. Self-control is also a factor and that varies from person to person too.

About Geminis having the highest rate of violence. Can I supply a link to back that up? No, it's something I saw mentioned offhand in a couple of forum discussions, years ago.

For what it's worth, Dahmer was a Gemini btw...anything in Cancer? Beyond his midheaven not really, and his moon was in Aries. Midheaven would have more to do with how you're perceived by the outside world in terms of your career, and not so much what your level of aggression is in a general sense.

posted April 01, 2013 04:59 AM              

I'm really moody though, I think with Cancers they can be some of the most rude and mean and even violent people around because they feel like they aren't in control of their moods, we all know how quickly the moon moves about.

Well they feel victim to it sometimes, not a child of the Moon more like an abused child of the Moon.

posted April 01, 2013 09:42 AM            

We live in a society with artificial and unhealthy ideals of a gender binary, with extreme masculinity and femininity which really no one can live up to, so we have people going around trying to fit these insane, unrealistic molds. Becuase everyone's so neurotic about their own attempt to be either hypermasculine or hyperfeminine, there's lots of hostility toward anyone who don't neatly fit into on or the other, as they are reminers of how everyone's failing to live up to these unreaslitic gender ideals.

When you have people whose energies are more obviously a blending of both, they can't keep up apperences as well and they become a target for such gender-based hostility. I know this quite well as a woman with a lot of air infleunce. Other people trying to police my gender expression, telling me I'm not being feminine enough, has been an issues since I was a little girl. I hav even been abused becuase of it. But being a woman with lots of "masculine" energy, I tend to be sympathetic to men with more "feminine" energy than our society's stereotypcial manly man. However, many of these men don't cope with how society reacts to their lack of gender conformity as well as I have.

Issues with gender conformity and gender expression are often a problem with men with strong water or earth in thier charts. Cancer, being a Cardinal sign and one of the Individual signs, is uniquely challenged in this way, especially with a masculine planet like the Sun or Mars. Cancer placements of masculine planets can make the native feel excessively targeted by our society's hostility toward their feminine qualities. Sun and Mars energy wants to act, and Cancer's Cardinal quality encourages the native to take initiative, but Cancer's own introversion frustrates that. So these energies get directed sideways (think a crab running away) rather than directly forward. This makes it hard from them to confront the source their frustration and also makes whatever alternative action they try less effective in alleviating that frustration. So the problem can become cyclic, hence why they can fall into patterns of addiction or other acts of abuse, of themselves or others.

Overcompensation, cyclic abusive/self-denial/self-destructive behavior, unresolved anger/rage, and addiction are often symptoms of a Cancerian male trying to address his frustration over society's hostility toward his own gender expression and identity. In more positive cases, this overcompensation manifests in purusuing macho careers, like the military or another male-dominated area, or hobbies, like guns and hunting, or lifestyle/appearence--I've known several Cancer Mars men who were bodybuilders and their whole lives revolved around the gym and looking super-masculine. Sometimes, however, they don't channel this sideways frustration into constructive things and it becomes shame, resentment, rage, self-loathing and potentially violence.

posted April 01, 2013 10:33 AM            

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Originally posted by GemNymph:

A plea, if I may: I see too much harsh gender-conforming, gender-policing language and attitudes on asrologry forums. I think as astrologers and astrology fans that we need to confront our society's false concept of a strict gender binary, recognize its harmfulness and address how it has influenced how we approach astrology. That in nature there is gender is a truth, but it's not at all as black and white as we are conditioned by human society to believe. We need to embrace the diversity and richness of gender that nature gives us, and use astrology to better understand that diversity and richness. It would certainly go a long way in helping people, like many water-infleunced men (and air-influenced women ), whose gender energies do not conform as easily to society's ideals and thus are targets of others' irrational hostility stemming from their own gender-conformity insecurities. Break the cycle! Stop the insanity!

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posted April 01, 2013 01:08 PM            

Not saying all cancer men are like this, but..

My cousin is a cancer sun and he is antisocial, and pretty much in a bad mood all the time.

I know a couple of cancer moon men and they are very selfish and cruel.

Not saying all moon in cancer men are like this, but maybe I just don´t like their energy.

The worst thing is that I attract cancer moon men like a magnet. I have moon in scorpio and scorpio ascendant, but I´m not nearly as selfish and violent as they are.

The guy that I´m attracted to is a cancer moon, but he has been abuse to other women, and he als drinks, so I stay away.

I also have a stalker, a creepy guy with moon in cancer.

Cancer is a vulnerable, and weak, sign deep inside. They don´t have self-control and that´s why they resort to abuse and violence.

Not all, but alot of them do.

I have a great cancer female friend who is very sweet, but she gossips alot and is very sneaky.

I don´t respect that at all.

Cancers strong point is that they are emotional and creative. They should accept their own vulnerability and love more.

Deep down they just want to be protected. Cancer people need to grow up, but unfortunately most of them don´t. They try to find a mommy and daddy in all their partners, wich isn´t healthy.

posted April 01, 2013 04:00 PM            

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Originally posted by MorteImperator:
I notice Cancer men are portrayed as seemingly masculine. In fact violence is often associated by Cancer Men.

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huh?
The Cancer men are the most feminine of all signs, i don't know how anyone can say they were aggressive and violent. Jeez. These are momma's boys, all of them.
Most of them cancer men don't have much body hair, not much facial hair, and half of them might even have mens boobies.
Come on. They cannot possibly be violent for they are way too sensitive.

posted April 01, 2013 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I've noticed that water guys try very hard to put on a tough guy front, but it doesnt work imo.

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I know Pisces does it well.

I Know Pisces are poop heads.

posted April 01, 2013 05:04 PM            

I have strong Cancerian/Lunarian energy and actually its the Plutonians/Scorponics attracted to me.