posted April 01, 2013 05:15 AM              

Does anyone feel like this? Because it sure as hell doesn't seem like it, considering I'm lonely and feel alone, like an alien.

posted April 01, 2013 06:03 AM            

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Originally posted by bridgetostars23:
Yay for 12th house placements!

You are not alone.

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posted April 01, 2013 06:21 AM            

Transiting Pluto conjuncts your Uranus, ruler of 8th (intimacy).

I think your feelings will change when Pluto enters your 7th/crosses your NN.

posted April 01, 2013 07:59 AM            

I think it's your Saturn in the 7th.
It can be hard, especially in youth.
Plus your NN is on your DSC.. so relationships are actually vital for you and your growth.
It will come to you in time, don't worry.

Also, transiting Saturn is in your 5th currently, that may be why you're feeling so low about romance and love and fun.
But transiting North Node conjuncts your Pluto, ruler of your 5th in the 5th. That may teach you something or bring you something, related to creativity or romance. Don't despair just yet!

It's not an easy time but trust me, you're not alone in this. The vast majority of people feel disonnected from others and lonely, at some point in their lives at least.

Just take care of yourself and try to please yourself with new hobbies and interests, for example.

posted April 01, 2013 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by CherryVodka:
What are these indicators of this extreme loneliness, isolation, and misunderstanding I feel.

Does anyone feel like this? Because it sure as hell doesn't seem like it, considering I'm lonely and feel alone, like an alien.

Thoughts?

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posted April 01, 2013 11:33 AM              

It almost describes me to a T.

posted April 01, 2013 11:38 AM            

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Originally posted by CherryVodka:
I was watching a video on youtube talking about the south node on the ascendant/12th house and it was very accurate to how I'm feeling.

It almost describes me to a T.

Funny how those little overlooked aspects can mean that much.

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True, SN in twelve can leave one feeling separated from what is going on around them. I guess what you have to do is get out there and try to connect if you are at odds with the feeling of isolation because twelfth house is also self undoing and people with these placements have to work on not feeling like they are falling apart when they start having misgivings.

posted April 01, 2013 02:42 PM            

This might help you understand better what i mean by that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74kBqeq__OQ

Your Sun is also in 3'rd House, you being a Virgo - and that's representative for our inner-nature (the way we our at hearth/instinctual drives) - Virgos are usually more inward than outward - yet, as introverted as you may be with a Sun in 3'rd house - you strive for communication, it's "something you need" for you Sun to shine... or else you'd feel detached - both from yourself and from this world. Even Jupiter is in 3'rd House - and that shows a area of life where we can expand (grow wise) - and being in Virgo, that expansion implies a practical approach - one which is related to communication.

Among other things - this 3'rd House/Virgo elements, as in - your Sun (inner-nature), Mercury (intellect) and Jupiter (wisdom) - can be very useful for your NN (spiritual lesson - a part you need to develop in terms of spiritual evolution). Your NN falls in Capricorn, but it's under the DSC line - it's still in House 6 (the natural house for Virgo), so - it's not about relationship, it's about adulthood (becoming self-sufficient, taking the physical world serious - like health, a job that can help you maintain it, improve it). With SN (a spiritual lesson you already learned) - in House 12/Cancer... in a previous life - you probably spent a lot of time in a medical institution taking care of other peoples health, showing a lot of compassion for their problems. In your current life experience - you need to concentrate more on your personal evolution (Capricorns bare that mark, the idea of evolution - aiming to reach the highest mountain, while the bottom of the ocean is your starting point) - in becoming a self-sufficient adult. For most of us this part (adulthood) is "a normal step" - something that feels like we have to do... and that feeling won't fade in time - but for one with NN in 6'th House - achieving this goal can bring a deep feeling of fulfillment - a feeling that gives a real meaning to the words "you made it!" Oh and very important - your House 9 is either in Pisces or in Aquarius and the ruling planet of both (Neptune and Uranus) - is in House 6. Among other things - House 9 stands for higher studies being the house of Sagittarius - while Jupiter is the ruling planet - and with the ruling planet in House 6 - the higher the studies the closer you'll get to a job you'd like (both in terms of what you do and entourage). If you quite school early - you'll always feel out of place in most jobs you'll find (you'll feel like "you don't belong there" - both in terms of what you do and the people you work with).

Spiritual lesson are usually hard - we all have some obstacles that we have to conquer in that area... your main obstacles seem to be Neptune (shows a area where we can delude ourselves) and Uranus (sense of rebellion). They're both in same house with the NN (House 6) and they have hard aspects (square) with Mars (the way you act) - and that seems to be related to your Home/Parents (Mars being in House 4) - but they also have hard aspects (opposition) with the Ascendant (our image/appearance - the way we're perceived in this world). Maybe this detailed descriptions - can offer you a better insight from this point of view:

Ascendant opposite Neptune: http://www.astrozoom.com/astrologer/astrology/ascendant-opposite-neptune/

Ascendant opposite Uranus: http://www.astrozoom.com/astrologer/astrology/ascendant-opposite-uranus/

Every aspect with the Ascendant influences the way we're perceived by others - and beyond those mentioned above, you also have Mars squaring the Asc and the NN in Opposition. Squares can be hard - but eventually, you'll overcome them (it's just a matter of time) - and with squares, it's not like you have a choice - they're "challenging (they keep showing up - not something you can avoid/ignore)" aspects that involve a blockage - which we need to overcome. Some astrology sites - treat Squares and Oppositions in same way and i find that inaccurate - cause you can overcome Oppositions in same way. With squares - the more you try, the better you get at it (in some way - they can be even better than trines - cause the result from overcoming a square surpasses the one of a trine). With opposition - it's not about getting better but "about acceptance" - accepting those differences. With NN opposing the ASC - the NN being related to house 6, you might have a hard time accepting yourself (your appearance) as an adults - even if you get there... looking at yourself in the mirror - you might feel like you're not there yet, so keep this in mind and learn to accept the guy in the mirror. For some reason - this aspect makes me think of Eminem... it's very possible that he has this aspect as well. You also positive aspects with the ASC - like Mercury in sextile with the ASC. You might have heard this before in the past... being regarded as intelligent, even by people that had better grades than you in school... or by acquaintances (people you just meet, or even relatives). You have Sun in Quintile with the ASC - you might come of as being gifted in some way. There's also a wounded side to your ASC - since you have Chiron in House 1... Chiron is called the wounded healer - and With Chiron in Leo/House 1 - you can make other feel good about their appearance... but you might have a hard time feeling better about yourself.

And i left the hardest part for last - as in your Moon - which is in House Aquarius/House 8. This might come of a little blunt - but "is your mother alive"? If she is - your Moon is opposing your Venus and Jupiter - so she need to accept your sense of style and the what you chose to do with your life (the area of growth influenced by Jupiter). On one side Moon is related to our mother figure - but it's also related to our emotional side... so, at an emotional level - you need to accept those things as well... you need to love yourself (a common problem for those with Moon having a hard aspect with Venus). With Moon in Aquarius - your sense of emotions can be scattered and highly influential by the surroundings... so, chose your entourage wisely (for same reason - you could benefit from the company of a pet). On a private/personal level - people with Moon in Aquarius can detach easier from their emotions and some can take this as being cold hearthed. Though - you have Moon squaring Pluto - and that comes as a paradox... cause you can feel challenged to manifest your emotions intensely... and that can be a bit confusing - in a "now you're hot now you're cold" kinda way.

With House 5 in Scorpio and the ruling planet (Pluto) also in Scorpio - you are of entertainment can be a place where you find love. With House 7 in Capricorn and the ruling planet (saturn) - also in House 7 (at home in Capricorn) - you might need a partner that's highly dedicated from this point of view - like a Capricorn with Sun in House 7, who has a inner need for being in a relationship - same as you have a inner need for communication (your Sun being in House 3).

Well, hope this helps.

posted April 01, 2013 04:52 PM            

Is it a feeling that occured recently? Could be a transit or even a progression.

posted April 01, 2013 04:58 PM            

You obviously have a strong love nature with that Moon-venus-Pluto T-square, so having Saturn in the 7th must be very difficult :/

posted April 01, 2013 06:09 PM            

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Originally posted by CherryVodka:
I don't know. . but right now especially this moment I feel awful. I feel like everyone has some key that I can't have. Like they all love one another and I'm just there.

Men, women, girls, boys, it all seems like a big play to me, I'm tired of playing. Relationships are an absolute joke to me, and I'm not laughing.

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I know excatly how you feel.

posted April 01, 2013 06:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Sorry you're feeling this way, Cherry

I think it's your Saturn in the 7th.
It can be hard, especially in youth.
Plus your NN is on your DSC.. so relationships are actually vital for you and your growth.
It will come to you in time, don't worry.

Also, transiting Saturn is in your 5th currently, that may be why you're feeling so low about romance and love and fun.
But transiting North Node conjuncts your Pluto, ruler of your 5th in the 5th. That may teach you something or bring you something, related to creativity or romance. Don't despair just yet!

It's not an easy time but trust me, you're not alone in this. The vast majority of people feel disonnected from others and lonely, at some point in their lives at least.

Just take care of yourself and try to please yourself with new hobbies and interests, for example.

Hang in there, buddy! ~

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posted April 02, 2013 12:39 AM              

However, it's been difficult, and I've always had people either not liking my music or they discourage me which is difficult for me.

At my core I feel like a weirdo with a huge heavy heart. A paradox and I can't balance both energies I have.

Not to mention right now I am going through a terrible case of unrequited love, and this has only happened to me once before (as I've only loved one other person truly, even though I've had countless relationships)

The person is making it very difficult and is very cold.

Which seems to be the case every time for me. After a while , even though believe it or not I'm confident in my loving ability, I start to wonder if I'm just some terrible monster to other people that I can't see what I'm doing.

Also, Had a tendency lately to rely on drugs and haven't been able to get any drugs, and that's bothered me even though I know I don't need them, I feel hopeless otherwise.