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gen75
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posted April 01, 2013 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been “seeing” a Pisces man (Feb 27 1970) for several months now, I am a cancer woman (July 7 1975).. We have been work acquaintances for many years and gradually started talking more which led to us agreeing to be FWBs, I was ok with this but have since fallen deep in love with him. The one complication we have is he has a child with a woman that he doesn’t have feelings for but she wants more from him and always has, he even feels like he was trapped with the baby. She is an angry and violent woman so he is afraid of her actions but is beginning to see this is not good for his daughter. I know that relationship will implode soon and I don’t ever give advice or my opinion but I listen A LOT, he has even broke down crying in front me. Actually I gave advice once and that turned into an argument but we quickly made up. We have many mutual friends that know about his situation, so I know it isn’t BS. My real question is about me and him and the rest is just back story. I have read about Pisces men being very caring, loving and loyal so it’s hard to tell if he has genuine feelings for me or if it is just his Pisces characteristics. From the very first time we got together, he texted me the next morning and did every day after for months and we would chat all day…we don’t text every day like we used to but it’s at least every other day and he will usually be the one to send the text asking how my day is going. He has been very open with me and has shared a lot and some of it I know he hasn’t shared with just anyone. He has been very concerned about my feelings regarding his other situation and if we are having a rough patch, he will call and make sure that I am doing ok (which I usually am). He has been obviously jealous and every time he knows I go out of town or out with friends he will ask if I got lucky haha just kidding ( I don’t find it funny). The sex is absolutely amazing, the best I have ever had,probably because its all about me. We were just together a few days ago and we always hang out chatting and this last time he played his guitar for me, then when I think the sex can’t get better, it did! It felt like we were making love, he held my face as he kissed me and I felt so much passion. Every time we are together, we hold hands and make eye contact, it’s really intense. This last time, we were interlocked like we were one person. In the beginning, affection was only in the bedroom but it has progressed to after the bedroom, we will get dressed and hug and talk and kiss before I leave. He has recently told me that our experience has been the best he has ever had, our sex is like a drug and he says he is afraid if we start hanging out (movies, dinner) that it will progress into a relationship but because of his other situation he isn’t ready for that. We even discussed not seeing each other for a while and I got the feeling it was heart breaking for both of us, however, not seeing each other did not last long. He is the first man I feel like genuinely respects me, cares about my feelings and happiness, he communicates with me and he is open and honest with me. How can I tell if he has true feelings or he is just being a Pisces?

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posted April 01, 2013 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sounds typically Pisces, but you need to look at his whole chart and your synastry together..

If you have no future but you love him and want a future with him, seeing him isn't a good idea IMO. I was in the exact same situation last year. It'll just be harder to let go when you inevitably have to. It's very painful to let go, but it's better than staying in a relationship that is not going anywhere.

Not to belittle your experience, and I'm sure you have genuine feelings for one another, but I've heard this type of story many times before from women involved with Pisces men...

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posted April 01, 2013 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for so square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 01, 2013 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he loves you but it’s easy for pisces to love everyone especially venus in pisces.Where is his venus?If we generalize I think it is the perfect scenario for a pisces male,he can have sex,can talk to you about his problems,use you as his rock in a difficult time and can easily swim to another woman because you two aren’t in relationship.

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posted April 01, 2013 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The truth is often more close than we think.
To keep it simple; if he has true feelings for you, you should know (!!! *sorry*). And if you have any doubt about it you will ask him, talk about it or as a typical Scorp-moon (= me) blame him indirectly of cheating per text (in any case, the risk of losing great sex is one you have to take)..

it always works for me. I can't live with that insecurity anymore, it's soo frustrating.
Well yes, once I could but my nerves became too old for that. Maturity is what they call it but it's just nature I tell you

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posted April 01, 2013 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyaskings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by so square:
life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. go for it. there is no wrong decision. it's hard enough to find love as it is. you seem to love him. he seems to love you. tomorrow, you may both feel different. enjoy today.

and don't rely too much on astrology. most of it us a load of bs you know.

sam.


Why are you on an astrology forum if you think most of it is "a load of bs"...?

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posted April 02, 2013 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sounds like a characteristic pisces - and 'not wanting a relationship' is actually a good thing for them... pisces like to yearn for people and martyr themselves, so if he believes he is doing that it probably makes him quite happy. oddly, they would rather be miserable apart than happy together. worst thing you can do is chase him for what you want... they just run off. and not to belittle anything you feel or have with him, but sex with any pisces is great .. they have a great spiritual nature and passion that seems to transcend anything - it's like that w/other pisces men too. my pisces makes me literally cry buckets during sex - pisces guys have a way of being deeply passionate, but they also know what they want and if he wanted you badly enough you'd be more than FWB. post a synastry chart for you/him in Personal Readings - it might shed light on other aspects of the relationship and dynamics that aren't making it work out well

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posted April 02, 2013 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for so square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 02, 2013 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snorkel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by so square:
i didn't say "i think" most of it is a load of bs, i said "most of it is a load of bs", as in statement of fact.

you just have to look at 90% of the posts here to know that. they are purely speculative. it's one person asking "is it my so & so in such & such that does this or makes me like that?"

and then you get dozens of differing replies, "no it's this, no it's that, i think it's the other". they all contradict, they're all just guesses, nobody knows.

generalisations sometimes work, but so many of them use a catch all technique, so there's bound to be something somewhere that fits.

then you get discrepancies between western, vedic, house systems and so on and so forth.

then you get people who say astrology works, but i don't believe in synastry or some other part.

i just choose not to delude myself that most of it is anything other. not all people are like me in that respect. they can merrily go on for years with blinkers on.

as for why i'm here - i find some of it entertaining. why are you here? if you don't have an analytical mind allowing you to sift through what is and what isn't bs, what can you possibly hope to gain by being here?

there's no need to feel threatened by my presence though, i wouldn't want that.

consider life. most of it is bs. again, statement of fact. playing the same mindless game over and over again, watching television, watching adverts on television, doing mundane repetetive tasks for no real reward, hanging out on forums, getting into arguments with people we don't know or even care about.

most of life is bs. but we still do it. we all partake of it. but we don't usually have someone questioning our motives for being here, for being alive. it's for the other 10%.

hope that helps.

and i didn't really want this thread to be hijacked. frankly, i thought my answer was good - don't rely on astrology, rely on yourself.

sam.



Can I be totally honest with you?

Why are you here, then? And I don't even mean that in a hostile way, I'm saying it out of genuine confusion. Because it's not reading like you're someone that's on the fence about astrology, or even cynical, but like you've already made your mind up that it's totally worthless. And if that's the case, aren't you really just wasting your time and frustrating yourself unnecessarily?

Note - this isn't me saying that there's something wrong with you not believing in astrology - everybody has their own thing, and that's fine. I'm talking strictly about the senselessness of what you're doing - it's like a staunch atheist planting themselves down in a forum for devout Christians and then being surprised and annoyed that they're sitting there talking about Christ.

And I think it's safe to say that most of us here use astrology as a tool and a contributing factor in terms of decision-making processes, but not as the be-all, end-all; for you to assume otherwise about a bunch of people you don't even know and then start giving condescending life-advice on the subject, was honestly offensive.

Really it makes a lot more sense for you to go to a forum on a subject you do actually believe is valid and have interest in, instead of insulting the intelligence of the people around you because they're interested in something different from your personal preferences.

And, by the way - people don't all agree on what is "art", either. Does that make art, in and of itself, worthless? I think you're confusing differing views for legitimate evidence that something is not valid.

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posted April 02, 2013 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for so square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 02, 2013 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
The truth is often more close than we think.
To keep it simple; if he has true feelings for you, you should know (!!! *sorry*). And if you have any doubt about it you will ask him, talk about it or as a typical Scorp-moon (= me) blame him indirectly of cheating per text (in any case, the risk of losing great sex is one you have to take)..

it always works for me. I can't live with that insecurity anymore, it's soo frustrating.
Well yes, once I could but my nerves became too old for that. Maturity is what they call it but it's just nature I tell you


My feeling is that he does have feelings for me but that he is avoiding the storm that will come from his mothers child.. I have felt this for a long time but I didn't know if I was caught in something real or if this was just the way he is. I am afraid of saying too much to him because I dont want him to swim away, he has enough pressure as it is.

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posted April 02, 2013 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starmoon:
sounds like a characteristic pisces - and 'not wanting a relationship' is actually a good thing for them... pisces like to yearn for people and martyr themselves, so if he believes he is doing that it probably makes him quite happy. oddly, they would rather be miserable apart than happy together. worst thing you can do is chase him for what you want... they just run off. and not to belittle anything you feel or have with him, but sex with any pisces is great .. they have a great spiritual nature and passion that seems to transcend anything - it's like that w/other pisces men too. my pisces makes me literally cry buckets during sex - pisces guys have a way of being deeply passionate, but they also know what they want and if he wanted you badly enough you'd be more than FWB. post a synastry chart for you/him in Personal Readings - it might shed light on other aspects of the relationship and dynamics that aren't making it work out well

He didnt say he didnt want a relationship, but that he isnt in a place to have one because of the mother of his child. From everything we have shared, I would say we are more than FWB. I admitted my feelings to him once several months ago and left it at that. I do not pressure him or say anything about us or even her because I know he is beating himself up enough for all of us.

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posted April 02, 2013 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it's ok that skeptics are here ... astrology is like any branch of science or study - some people will buy into it and others will not... and various theories abound, some of which might be proven over time and others which are just speculation and guesses :-)

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posted April 02, 2013 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by so square:
life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. go for it. there is no wrong decision. it's hard enough to find love as it is. you seem to love him. he seems to love you. tomorrow, you may both feel different. enjoy today.

and don't rely too much on astrology. most of it us a load of bs you know.

sam.


In my experiences I have found that the personality traits are usually pretty right on with astrological signs but I also take into consideration their life and background and gender. This man is a typical Pisces all the way and i am a typical Cancer. I have been struggling with what is Pisces and what is just being a Man with him.

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posted April 02, 2013 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starmoon:
it's ok that skeptics are here ... astrology is like any branch of science or study - some people will buy into it and others will not... and various theories abound, some of which might be proven over time and others which are just speculation and guesses :-)

I use it along with knowing a person and their background but from my experience the personality traits are rarely wrong. I seem to attract Scorpio, Capricorn and Taurus. This man is my first Pisces experience so I am still learning.

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posted April 02, 2013 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just looked it up and his Venus is in Pisces and mine is in Virgo.

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posted April 02, 2013 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflower-moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, you should definitely post your synastry info! That would help a lot. I'm kind of interested to see it lol.

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posted April 02, 2013 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My feeling is that he does have feelings for me but that he is avoiding the storm that will come from his mothers child.. I have felt this for a long time but I didn't know if I was caught in something real or if this was just the way he is. I am afraid of saying too much to him because I dont want him to swim away, he has enough pressure as it is.

I understand. Yes, if he has a lot of baggage you can't expect more than he's already giving. And if you can deal with that, no problem. But if you catch yourself too often on doubts about him it might be because you feel he isn't able to give you the future you need/want. I'm thinking about a ticking biological clock for example and those are truly serious matters. Just looking at your age you know.
I broke up with pisces-ex because *we* couldn't give each other what we really wanted from life, expected from life.
And the worst or maybe saddest thing of life is that it's almost *impossible* to cut out those expectations you have from life, even when there's nothing you wish more. And in case you *will* sacrifice yourself there will always be somehow a dissatisfaction *PLUS* an expectation from the one you did this for.
Pisces seems so aware of this all ... the fact that in most cases there's simply *no-way-out*, which makes it so very hard for him to pin down on anything.
This is how I see Pisces + my experience with Pisces + my own 12th house sun speaking.

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posted April 02, 2013 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sunflower-moon:
Yeah, you should definitely post your synastry info! That would help a lot. I'm kind of interested to see it lol.

I can't figure out how to post it but I would love to have some feedback on it.

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posted April 02, 2013 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I understand. Yes, if he has a lot of baggage you can't expect more than he's already giving. And if you can deal with that, no problem. But if you catch yourself too often on doubts about him it might be because you feel he isn't able to give you the future you need/want. I'm thinking about a ticking biological clock for example and those are truly serious matters. Just looking at your age you know.
I broke up with pisces-ex because *we* couldn't give each other what we really wanted from life, expected from life.
And the worst or maybe saddest thing of life is that it's almost *impossible* to cut out those expectations you have from life, even when there's nothing you wish more. And in case you *will* sacrifice yourself there will always be somehow a dissatisfaction *PLUS* an expectation from the one you did this for.
Pisces seems so aware of this all ... the fact that in most cases there's simply *no-way-out*, which makes it so very hard for him to pin down on anything.
This is how I see Pisces + my experience with Pisces + my own 12th house sun speaking.

My clock isnt ticking, I already have a 21 year old daughter and do not want more children. We are both on the same page with this. The only thing I want is the companionship because since I don't want children I don't feel like I need to get married.

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posted April 02, 2013 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is your Venus in the early degrees of Virgo?

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posted April 02, 2013 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starfairy:
Is your Venus in the early degrees of Virgo?

I think I may have read it wrong, my Birthday is on the 7th and Virgo enters on the 9th. Prior to that it is in Leo starting on June 6th.

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posted April 02, 2013 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snorkel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by so square:
it's entertainment. that's why i'm here. and i don't close my mind to anything (that works both ways you know - you might even say it's the gemini way - to see things from both sides of your fence). can i ask you, just what exactly was wrong with my initial advice before this thread went awry?

So, let me get this straight. You aren't close-minded to astrology, but you think it's "bullsh**t" and told everybody here to stop using it, and doing so is entertaining to you.

I'm not even going to keep derailing the OP's thread with this, and I'll leave it at that before I say something that gets me spanked by a moderator.

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I think I may have read it wrong, my Birthday is on the 7th and Virgo enters on the 9th. Prior to that it is in Leo starting on June 6th.


Huh?

just post your chart.

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posted April 02, 2013 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflower-moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think she knows how to lol. You can post yours and his birth dates/times/places if you're comfortable with that?

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