posted April 02, 2013 01:45 AM            

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Originally posted by goatcat:
Are we still in the age of Pisces?

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posted April 02, 2013 02:17 AM            

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Originally posted by TaurusInParticles:
This is a really interesting and informative article on the subject. It's a bit long and wordy, but definitely worth reading. Rowe can articulate much better than me. http://hermetic.com/browe/agesnew.html

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I'm actually finding this interesting. I'm going to forward it to the guy who used to teach me the Western Mystery Tradition, he'll love this.

posted April 02, 2013 02:33 AM            

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Originally posted by goatcat:
Are we still in the age of Pisces?

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Some say yes, some say no. I think it can be agreed upon though that at the very least, we're in the last leg of Pisces, and just like they say planets on the cusp of another sign have the energy of both...it could be argued that we're experiencing some Aquarian Age energy now even if it hasn't officially started yet per se.

About the comment above that the Illuminati doesn't use astrology because they're too busy trying to make money...actually, they believe in stuff like astrology much more than the rest of the populace does. They pretty much plan every move they make around what the planets are doing - remember the saying "As above, so below" and stuff like alchemy and magic and other occult things that the modern-day freemasons practice, and freemasonry itself was infiltrated and corrupted by the Illuminati centuries ago.

That aside, I've been thinking for years now that there's an astrological correlation between who gets offered the opportunity to be a star and who doesn't. Have you ever noticed how many of the big music stars from the last few decades, are Pisces Moons? I think there's a reason for that.

And I've noticed what seems to be a trend toward picking Sagittarius-heavy people for the spotlight in recent years. My guess is that it goes like this : every year, millions of wannabe stars sign record contracts movie deals, etc. And out of those, the ones that appear to be selling the best...those are the ones the Illuminati pays attention to. Then, they probably find out their birth data and pull up their natal chart and look for specific markers. When they find artists who have those, then they offer them super-stardom in exchange for being willing to push the Illuminati agenda in their work, etc.

I'm thinking that they go after the people that appear to have the greatest potential to sway or dazzle the masses. Which would explain something like Pisces Moon, because of its association to Neptune and the Age of Pisces in general. And think of how many old-school movie stars have a busy or prominent Neptune in their chart. I think with the current era, they were looking specifically for Sag energy. Maybe because so many people in the most recent generations, have something in that sign, whether it's their Neptune or some of the other outer planets - so then these artist's luminaries or inner planets, conjunct billions of people's Neptune. I've wondered if the constant emphasis on Sagittarius has something to do with the Galactic Center also but that's just guesswork.

I'm willing to bet that now that we're (possibly) in the Age of Aquarius, we'll start seeing more Aquarian/Uranian signatures in the charts of the future stars that make it to the top of the heap.

posted April 02, 2013 02:44 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I'm actually finding this interesting. I'm going to forward it to the guy who used to teach me the Western Mystery Tradition, he'll love this.

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posted April 02, 2013 02:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Snorkel:
Some say yes, some say no. I think it can be agreed upon though that at the very least, we're in the last leg of Pisces, and just like they say planets on the cusp of another sign have the energy of both...it could be argued that we're experiencing some Aquarian Age energy now even if it hasn't officially started yet per se.

About the comment above that the Illuminati doesn't use astrology because they're too busy trying to make money...actually, they believe in stuff like astrology much more than the rest of the populace does. They pretty much plan every move they make around what the planets are doing - remember the saying "As above, so below" and stuff like alchemy and magic and other occult things that the modern-day freemasons practice, and freemasonry itself was infiltrated and corrupted by the Illuminati centuries ago.

That aside, I've been thinking for years now that there's an astrological correlation between who gets offered the opportunity to be a star and who doesn't. Have you ever noticed how many of the big music stars from the last few decades, are Pisces Moons? I think there's a reason for that.

And I've noticed what seems to be a trend toward picking Sagittarius-heavy people for the spotlight in recent years. My guess is that it goes like this : every year, millions of wannabe stars sign record contracts movie deals, etc. And out of those, the ones that appear to be selling the best...those are the ones the Illuminati pays attention to. Then, they probably find out their birth data and pull up their natal chart and look for specific markers. When they find artists who have those, then they offer them super-stardom in exchange for being willing to push the Illuminati agenda in their work, etc.

I'm thinking that they go after the people that appear to have the greatest potential to sway or dazzle the masses. Which would explain something like Pisces Moon, because of its association to Neptune and the Age of Pisces in general. And think of how many old-school movie stars have a busy or prominent Neptune in their chart. I think with the current era, they were looking specifically for Sag energy. Maybe because so many people in the most recent generations, have something in that sign, whether it's their Neptune or some of the other outer planets - so then these artist's luminaries or inner planets, conjunct billions of people's Neptune. I've wondered if the constant emphasis on Sagittarius has something to do with the Galactic Center also but that's just guesswork.

I'm willing to bet that now that we're (possibly) in the Age of Aquarius, we'll start seeing more Aquarian/Uranian signatures in the charts of the future stars that make it to the top of the heap.

And again, they probably pick these people based solely on their natal potential to dazzle the public. It's not so much that the musicians chosen are somehow more spiritually-advanced or capable or smarter or anything like that, but that they'd make the most useful puppet or lure to reel the public in. Which brings me to another theory, which is that they probably try to look for charts that indicate the ability to be manipulated easily - think about it, if you're going to do their bidding, it helps if you aren't stubborn as a mule and determined to think for yourself.

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posted April 02, 2013 03:05 AM            

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Originally posted by TaurusInParticles:
EXACTLY! Snorkel, you took the word right out of my mouth! However, I think the glamor and superstardom we see today is Piscean quality and will die down as we enter the Aquarian Age. Also, the free-flow of knowledge is an Aquarian theme, so hopefully those in charge will be interested in sharing what they know rather than pushing their agenda

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They've already been doing that anyway though for a long time now. They use the media to indoctrinate people and to tip people off to what they're doing and might possibly do in the future. I read someplace that it's one of the laws of their occult practices that they have to inform people of what they're doing before they do it in some way or another to circumvent karmic repercussions for it later.

posted April 02, 2013 07:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Snorkel:
they probably find out their birth data and pull up their natal chart and look for specific markers. When they find artists who have those, then they offer them super-stardom in exchange for being willing to push the Illuminati agenda in their work, etc.

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posted April 02, 2013 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by goatcat:
Are we still in the age of Pisces?

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posted April 02, 2013 11:31 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Just out of curiosity, what agenda are these celebrities used for? Is this finding the most auspicious placements so as to pick the right people to maximize profits? Best bread & circus? Or something sinister (which would be what?)?

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Anyone who knows more about the Illuminati can correct me: These celebs apparently sold their souls (to the Devil, literally) for fame and fortune. The Illuminati apparently uses them to control the masses and whatnot. Apparently, these celebrities use symbols to corrupt us and take us away from god and towards the devil. All this is done to establish the new world order, a universal government headed by the anti-Christ.

My ex was obsessed with this **** , and I heard about it all day. He literally thought the anti-Christ would take over and kill millions of people.

posted April 02, 2013 03:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Vradec:
As a musician and producer myself, I would say that there is quite a lot of darkness within the music industry. Even a lot of small artists that I know in the local scene say they have tried some occult rituals to literally 'sell their soul' for more talent and fame. It wouldn't surprise me if bigger artists had tried it.

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mmm....
lots of culture have that though...
going to the crossroads and doing a deal with the man of the crossroads..for example.
in some villages of europe, you hear about the 'black man'...(not necessarily a black man)
it may actually be something with pagan origins, that was then bastardized into 'the devil'

posted April 02, 2013 03:42 PM            

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ok....
as an sceptic and a non-american...
im baffled that many of the artists accused of being part of the evil illuminati conspiracy happen to be 'black'....
i mean, sure...lady gaga is thrown into the same pile, etc..
but, it is always as if the folks out there are far more critical/harder toward the minorities...
so, couldnt it be that a certain segment of american society cant cope with these entertainers being successful 'by their own means/effort' thus...they think that these minorities must be doing something asinine (evil illuminati conspiracy) in order to reach that success...?

that is my theory:
a combination of racism and classicism..

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posted April 02, 2013 03:59 PM            

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Originally posted by goatcat:
Are we still in the age of Pisces?

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In theory the answer would be based on personal assessments because most who hypothesize can't even validate the exact time period of each "Age". On the planet I live on, here on earth, we've progressed into the Age of Aquarius (IMO). I felt the change in 2011. I've read plenty of very convincing articles on both sides of the issue, Age of Pisces vs Age of Aquarius. It could just be my natal Aquarius Rising doing the talking, but look at the world right now. I see the crumbling of entire systems and traditions, and ways of life making room for rebirth. I think we're at the beginning of the Age of Aquarius, not the end of the Age of Pisces. But in a sense does it really matter, because isn't the end always the beginning (cycle of death and rebirth).

posted April 02, 2013 04:11 PM            

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Originally posted by TaurusInParticles:
I'd love to read more about this subject! Any books or sites you would recommend? I totally thought this thread was going to be ignored or misunderstood. I'm glad to see that other people are waking up to the truth.

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I started off with "Rule by Secrecy" by Jim Marrs; a cousin gave me his copy years and years ago.

From there you might wanna try "Behold a Pale Horse" by William Cooper. Actually, ANYthing William Cooper-related, you're going to want to check out, run Google Searches and YouTube searches.

Look up Franz Springmeier vids on YouTube, and I recommend the book "Emerging Viruses" by Dr Leonard Horowitz, which goes into stuff besides just AIDS and Ebola and talks a bit about things like Project Paperclip. Look up "John Todd" videos on YouTube, also.

There's also a REALLY good blog/website full of really in-depth videos about this stuff that I used to drop by alot but for the life of me I can't remember the name of it right now, if I do I'll get back to you on that.

Also, check out the book "Holy Blood, Holy Grail". This is just starter-stuff, when I remember the rest of the books and vids I've seen I'll get back to you.

posted April 02, 2013 04:34 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Well I have Neptune AND Uranus themes in my chart, but I'm still not a celebrity LOL WTF

Haha! Really curious question though... notice how most celebrities aren't Cancer?

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posted April 02, 2013 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Leocassandra:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
[b]Well I have Neptune AND Uranus themes in my chart, but I'm still not a celebrity LOL WTF

Haha! Really curious question though... notice how most celebrities aren't Cancer?

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50 Cent is a Cancer wut