posted April 06, 2013 11:25 AM            

(I did post a thread in the soul unions forum to discuss the "signs" you've met your twinflame, but not limited to astrological clues)

posted April 06, 2013 06:01 PM            

Personal planets to the angles/nodes (HUGE)
Node-Node or Angle-Angle contact
Aspects to Vertex/AntiVertex
Saturn aspects (karmic)

Another thing is that I feel that hard aspects make a more significant impact, conjunctions and oppositions, especially.

posted April 06, 2013 06:41 PM            

the relationship is actually difficult to have with them because the feelings are so intense...am i right? is it like more awkward then good but you know you guys love the crap out of eachtother?

is it almost like push and pull? come together then repel?

if so deffinately venus/pluto aspects

i know soulmates its really easygoing and flows nicely

posted April 06, 2013 07:36 PM            

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Originally posted by foxxyxo:
from what i understand about twinflames

the relationship is actually difficult to have with them because the feelings are so intense...am i right? is it like more awkward then good but you know you guys love the crap out of eachtother?

is it almost like push and pull? come together then repel?

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Hell. Yes.

I go from wanting to make love in a meadow underneath the stars, to kicking his ass out of a moving train. I definitely can't bear to stay too angry for too long, tho. We've been off and on like this since early 2011. We also play little mind games with each other, but I think that's because we have Mars square Pluto (I'm Pluto).

Neither one of us can keep out of touch for too long, and we seem to have a psychic bond, too. If I think about him really hard, or "will" him to call me, my phone lights up. This only happens when we've stopped talking for a while.

posted April 06, 2013 08:51 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
Anyone has researched the subject and found some recurring aspects that seem to point to twinflame relationship?

(I did post a thread in the soul unions forum to discuss the "signs" you've met your twinflame, but not limited to astrological clues)

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Node axis
Vertex axis
Stuff going on involving the angles/angular houses
Saturn.

All the stuff people list in other threads, are pretty much heavy indicators. Along with a lot of the asteroids iQ has mentioned over on that section of the boards.

I already know who my twinflame is. His sun conjuncts my Venus and my Vertex; my Sun conjuncts his Venus and his Vertex (although admittedly the orb is huge - 8 degrees). His NN lands on my moon; his Saturn conjuncts my Neptune and my "Karma" asteroid and his "Karma" lands right on my NN, "Isis" and "Osiris" conjunct each other in the synastry along with a lot of other crazy synastry aspects, like "Magdalena" conjunct my moon, and "Yeshua" conjunct his sun - I jokingly refer to our synastry as "Lock and Key" synastry because it's like our charts fit each other that precisely.

He's over 20 years older than me, but I'm gonna be honest with you, I had a really intense, immediate reaction from the first time I laid eyes on him when I was a kid - and I mean really, really young, I had to be 3 or 4 years old. When I was 19, I got to know him and we were close for a really short period but it left its mark. Honestly I think we kinda both just feel an innate pull towards each other but there's just a lot of stuff - long story short, at this point I seriously doubt we'll get together long-term in a real, concrete way at any point but I have absolutely no doubts that he's mine and I'm his, whatever happens or doesn't happen from here on out.

I'm not gonna lie, sometimes I get upset and impatient because I don't want to wait, I want him NOW for good, but things happen the way they do for a reason I guess, and it's possible also that maybe we weren't supposed to end up together this go-around anyway - maybe it was always meant for us to come in contact with one another again temporarily, then move on.I will say this though - that even with everything that's gone on, I'm glad I've gotten to see and be with him again however briefly on the Earth plane because I know a lot of people aren't that fortunate and don't ever get to experience being with their twin soul. So I know I've been lucky. Even if I can't have him for good and be with him the way I want to be, at least we did get to be together at all. I feel lucky that I've gotten to experience it, because it's something that really is a gift, when it's good, it's this amazing unbelievable thing that I can't really do justice with words.

posted April 07, 2013 07:19 AM            

However, I must say, if twinflames really exist, then the guy that entered my life a year ago is my twin flame I think.

Astrologically speaking I think twinflames probably have extreme synastries of some sort, weather it be all conjunctions, or oppositions.

He is just a couple of days younger than me, so our synastry chart reflects our natal charts. But there are also enough diffeences and some imortant oppositions.

In chinese astrology there is something called day-master sign, wich is basically the moon sign, or your true self. Mine and his daymasters are opposite.
Our year signs are the same.

In western astrology we have:
My sun opposite his moon
My venus opposite his chiron

So the theme seems to be either oppositions or conjunctions with sun and moon and chiron, at least for me.

I have venus opposition chiron natally wich is my tightest aspect. I had this aspect in synastry with my ex-husband too. These chiron men are sent to heal me through love, I belive.

My ex-husband and I are soulmates. We were together for 8 years. But he was not my twinflame.

This guy is my twinflame, but just like one of the posters said - when you meet your twinflame itīs so intense that you repel eachother, so it is very hard to actually BE with them. I donīt think Iīll ever marry my twinflame, but I know that we belong together in a way.

Itīs weird, we are forced to see eachother every day because of school, although weīd much raher just be free, wondering around, looking for adventure. (Damn school, lol)

Me and my twinflame look alike. I didnīt realise it when I met him, I was just extremly attracted to him, thatīs all. And then one day I looked myself in the mirror and realised that we look so alike. He looks like the brother I never had. If a had a brother he would have looked and acted like him! So in a way itīs kinda disgusting that Iīm in love with him, but to my defence I will say that he is from a different part of the world, so there is no deubt that we arenīt related at all, lol.

But most importantly we have the same type of soul and eyes. When he talks or tries to act cool around people I feel embarresed for him. I think to myself "Please shut up", and at the same time my heart melts. This is odd, because I donīt feel embarresed for anyone else, ever. The only time I feel embarresed is for myself, that is when I talk, or try to be cool, and for him.

Whenever I see my twinflame I freeze, and he freezes too, even though we see eachother every day. Itīs like a surrealistic dream when you see them, itīs like youīre watching yourself, an out of body experience. Itīs scary. And yet, you just want to go and hug them and never let go, but at the same time that feeling of love is so strong that it terrifies you and you run as far as you can. But then you miss them. Weīve been avoiding eachother for a yer, but itīs literally getting painful being too far away from him, and I know he feels it too - so he has started to sit next to me in class, but we never talk. We just sit mext to eachother in the same position and we listen to eachother breathing.

However, recently he has started to talk to me indirectly - like through his friends. He teases me. Itīs so stupid, makes me do the face-palm inside. But I just smile. And itīs funny because he teases me just like weīre family or something. He seems so familiar in all ways.

When people see us together they always smile. Itīs so obvious that we love eachother but beat around the bushes all the time.

I have hated my twinflame, and he sure has hated me in the past. He once showed me how disgusted he was with me when I flirted with another man. But now things are getting more peaceful. Heīs not jealous anymore, at least he doesnīt seem to be.
We have played games, lord knows we have, but it never breaks the attraction, because deep down all we feel is love, and whatever we do to hurt eachother is because out of ignorence, thatīs all.

Also, I am a VERY jealous woman. I have been jealous of all my bf:s in the past, even my husband. But with my twin flame I feel different. Even though my ego gets jealous for a few seconds when a pretty girl is near him and he stares at her like an ape, lol, I let it go. Idk why, but I donīt care that he stares, at all!
My twinflame even has a gf, and I donīt mind. Hell I donīt even want to be with him. It would be too much.

As I said in another thread, days before I first met my twin flame I started falling in love with someone who doesnīt exist. That was my spirit calling me saying I will met the man I īll fall in love with soon. And I did.

Anyway, there is alot more to say, but I donīt want to make this too long, lol.

Other aspects we have:
sun pluto double whammy
ascendant conjunction pluto

posted April 07, 2013 07:38 AM            

"On an energetic level they are opposites yet they are complimentary in nature and their essence and substance is part of the same unified whole that is the One/God/Source."
http://www.twinflamesoulmates.com/twinflame-story.html

Their astrology will have to reflect this
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It goes without saying that I totaly agree with the utmost importance for conjunctions, oppositions and squares to the angles (TIGHT ones!), luminaries, nodal axis, Vertex etc.

Since twinflames share hte same Higher Self, and the heliocentric is considered the Highr Self chart, the supra-consciousness, you will find the polarity expressed in these charts as well. Be it in synastry or in the heliocentric composite.
For example there might be an Isis-Osiris-conjunction popping up there, which falls onto very vital points in each tropical natl chart. (falls on. means conjunction btw).

posted April 07, 2013 02:05 PM            

Little doe, I can definitely see the strong pluto playing out between you two from what you wrote. Mind games, noticing each other and yet staying a bit far away. It sounds really intense. You said he had a girlfriend. Are there any saturn aspects hard aspects in synastry indicating an unrequited situation?

I have a hard time with heliocentric chart since there are no angles, nodes and vertex there and that's what I pay attention to the most usually. I don't even know what makes an heliocentric synastry special.

I was thinking about the concept of twinflame the other day and how it relates mostly to the soul and core self. To me the draconic chart is the one that relates more to our soul growth where we've been ad where we need to go, while the tropical is more the challenges we encounter (and I view the heliocentric as our chart deprived from the ego, sort of the best of ourselves). It made sense to me that the draconic chart could show how two souls are intertwined right? Because I can't understand how two part of the same souls can go through life, or through many lifetimes without being in since. Yet I know that the "one is evolved and the other is not" is based on this.

posted April 07, 2013 02:34 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
Full of exact conjunction or opposition (or square?) and there would be points where the tropical meets the draoonic, and sidereal and heliocentric synastry.
It has to be significant if two person have, let's say an angle conjunction at 5 cap which lays on a sun-moon conjunction in the draconic and on some important asteroid pairing in the sidereal and heliocentric ?

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posted April 07, 2013 04:25 PM            

We have saturn moon double whammy.

We also have saturn (his) on my ascendant.

I donīt think any of this point to one-sided love, but Iīm not sure.

Iīm not familiar with all the different types of charts you described. Will have to look into it some time.

Deux Reve:

I used to feel the same way. Sometimes I still do.

I donīt think twin flames complete eachother in the usual sense of the word. Every person must be fully evolved themselves to experience the highest love. That kind of love is peaceful, the two people just enjoy eachother, but are happy and fulfilled on their own, because they have already learned all the lessons with their soulmates.

posted April 08, 2013 08:19 AM            

This is the draconic chart of me and the guy I refered to.
http://postimg.org/image/z5emmm9c5/

posted April 08, 2013 09:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW it isn`t the Draconic chart in your link, but the Davison chart.

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Oh..

I found a discussion about draconic synastry and where to get it for free, and someone suggested Davidson chart. I though it was another name for draconic chart. Oh well, nevermind then.

About twinflames:

posted April 08, 2013 01:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Little Doe:
Oh..

I found a discussion about draconic synastry and where to get it for free, and someone suggested Davidson chart. I though it was another name for draconic chart. Oh well, nevermind then.

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To get a draco synastry chart go to astro.com, enter your data and select what you would usually select to get a syanstry chart. Then under options there's a zodiac section, select "draconic". Yo ucna also select heliocentric, sidereal ..

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Originally posted by Doux Ręve:
I don't buy into the twin flame concept.
I do believe in soul mates but I don't think we only have one, and I definitely don't think we have "one" special person who completes us. It just doesn't mesh well with the concept of personal growth, in my opinion. We change all the time.. no one could possibly make us whole. That's just my take on it, as for now. It may change in the future! who knows.

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Well I definitely get your point. I am not completely sure about the twinflame concept as it is usually explained. I find it interesting and beautiful but like you, the idea of not being complete confuses me. I still believe though that there probably is that one person that we have an unexplainable bond to and that we will love despite all things (whether we're actually with them or not) It sounds childish but I just find the thought comforting.

Now twinflame might not be what I expect them to be. I am not really sure how you distinguish soulmates from twinflames. Sometimes you'll hear a story about two people who fell in love at first sigh and they remained with each other until their old days. It seems obvious that those people are soulmates. Could they be twinflame? and if it's not the case, would they have shared a love that strong and enduring with their respective twinflame?

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Draco synastry makes sense.

They are calculated with the nodal axis, and this is a calculation/ relationship between Sun, Moon and Earth.

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Yes, and the nodes seem to be very important in basic synastry analysis, and also natal chart analysis.
I wonder just how rare it would be for two persons to have many overlapping aspects from one type of chart to another.
I have a weird case in my own chart where all of my angles aspect each other if I compare the draco to tropical to sidereal. I find this actually so scary that when I think too much about it I just stop. I find the coincidence way too odd and precise to be just this, a coincidence.
I know that it is usually not quantity of aspects that matters but more their type and their orbs but would it be wise to assume that twin flame would have many aspects in every type of chart possible and that those chart would be connected to each other through important points?

posted April 08, 2013 02:45 PM            

"Yes, and the nodes seem to be very important in basic synastry analysis, and also natal chart analysis. "
One of the cornerstones, yes. conjunctions and squares especially.

"I wonder just how rare it would be for two persons to have many overlapping aspects from one type of chart to another. "
It depends on your set of objects. If you use a dozen asteroids (and I LOVE asteroids, you know that!) and orbs of 5 degrees or so, then not that rare.

However, if you reduce the set of objects and the orbs, much more rare.

"I have a weird case in my own chart where all of my angles aspect each other if I compare the draco to tropical to sidereal."
Might mean that the draco and sidereal experiences manifest more easily in your life now and here. Angles are like gatways or portals.

I donīt have this angle overlay.

tropical:
ASC: 7 Sag
MC: 5 Libra
VX: 21 Cancer
NN: 10 Sag

Draco:
ASC: 26 Pisces
MC: 24 Capricorn
VX: 10 Scorpio

my Draco Moon is exactly conjunct my tropical DESC though (and cojunct SN by 3 degrees).

" precise to be just this, a coincidence. "
Utmost precision is rarely a coincidence imo.

"would it be wise to assume that twin flame would have many aspects in every type of chart possible and that those chart would be connected to each other through important points?"
I think so, yes.

Maybe not only twinflames, but just basically people who are very connected to each other.

posted April 08, 2013 03:27 PM            

BTW I never go beyond 3 degree orb with Draconis, and focus on conjunction/ opposition.

Aries - Libra - axis
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° his Dr DESC on 23 Aries, Dr SATURN on 25 Aries, Dr VERTEX on 26 Aries conjunct my DR VENUS on 25 Aries

° his Dr POF on 25 Libra opposite my Dr VENUS On 25 Aries

° his Dr JUPITER on 8 Aries and Dr MARS (ASC-ruler) on 9 Aries opposit my tropical PLUTO on 9 Libra

Taurus - Scorpio
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° his Dr PLUTO on 20 Taurus conjunct my Dr POF on 18 Taurus

Gemini - Sagittarius
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° his Dr URANUS on 22 Gemini opposite my tropical MERCURY (DESC-ruler) on 25 Sagittarius

° my Dr MOON on 7 Gemini opposite his tropical MERCURY (DESC-ruler) on 9 Sag

° my dr JUPITER (ASC-ruler) on 1 Cancer opposite his tropical MOON on 28 Sag
(it is a borderline case)

Cancer - Capricorn
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° his Dr Sun on 25 Cancer, Dr MC on 26 Cancer, Dr MOON on 27 Cancer conjunct my Dr IC on 24 Cancer and opposite my Dr PLUTO on 28 Capricorn

° his Dr IC on 26 Cancer conjunct my Dr PLUTO on 28 Capricorn

° his Dr MERCURY (DESC-ruler) on 8 Cancer opposite my tropical VENUS on 6 Capricorn

° his Dr NEPTUNE (ASC-ruler) on 19 Cancer conjunct my tropical SATURN on 17 Cancer and VERTEX on 21 Cancer

° his DR IC on 26 Cap conjunct my tropical POF on 28 Cap

° his Dr SUN on 25 Cancer and Dr MOON on 27 Cancer opposite my tropical POF on 28 Cap

° my Dr MC on 24 Cap and Dr PLUTO on 28 Cap conjunct his tropical VENUS (DESC-ruler) on 25 Cap

Leo - Aquarius
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° his Dr VENUS (DESC-ruler) on 24 Leo opposite my Dr URANUS on 21 Aquraius

Virgo - Pisces
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° his Dr JUPITER on 8 Aries and Dr MARS (ASC-ruler) on 9 Aries opposit my tropical PLUTO on 9 Libra

° my Dr MARS on 25 Pisces, Dr ASC on 26 Pisces, Dr NEPTUNE on 29 Pisces conjunct his tropical ASC and POF on 25-26 Pisces

° my Dr DESC on 25 Virgo conjunct his tropical SATURN on 26 Virgo, DESC on 25 Virgo and VERTEX on 28 Virgo

° my Dr MARS on 25 Pisces and Dr NEPTUNE on 29 Pisces opposite his tropical SATURN on 26 Virgo and VERTEX on 28 Virgo

This is the only one I know where the Draconic charts trigger so much and in such crowded way in each other`s chart.