posted April 10, 2013 10:46 PM            

It's annoying at times 'cause I want to have fun with my friends or joke around while I'm walking with them but simply can't 'cause I'm too busy watching out for everything. It's like waiting for something that I know isn't going to happen.

posted April 11, 2013 12:39 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Mercury-Pluto hard aspects.

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posted April 11, 2013 06:18 AM            

So I'd look for afflicted Mercury & Moon, afflicted Virgo planets and prominent Pluto/Scorpio.

posted April 11, 2013 09:00 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Problem is no planets below the horizon.

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posted April 11, 2013 09:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Sounds like anxiety caused by "irrational" ideation.

So I'd look for afflicted Mercury & Moon, afflicted Virgo planets and prominent Pluto/Scorpio.

Neptune may add to it.

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^This is me.

posted April 11, 2013 09:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Nicole401:
Is that bad????

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posted April 11, 2013 09:07 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Astrologers might interpret it in different ways so this is just my take on it. I think of it as not being grounded and when you aren't, your emotions can get the best of you and you can experience irrational thoughts. Also, you might experience difficulties connecting to others in an intimate way and feel like you are just moving through crowds of people and not getting the connections with others you crave and this also affects the irrational thoughts and fears by reinforcing them.

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posted April 11, 2013 09:11 PM            

I def agree it's a Merc/Pluto thing

posted April 11, 2013 09:14 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
^^^ I think it has more to do with lack of planetary balance in your chart.

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Could Be, but what about the neptune squaring my chart ruler, always credited that for not being grounded. And Uranus and moon in 7th for not being touchy lovey enough.

posted April 11, 2013 09:15 PM            

There's also the opp between Venus and Pluto on the ascendant but I think the bottom half of the chart being virtually empty doesn't help matters and Chiron seems to be down there, too, in five, right?

posted April 11, 2013 09:20 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
^^^It could be a combination of many factors with Mercury/Pluto being a factor and Neptune. There's also the opp between Venus and Pluto on the ascendant but I think the bottom half of the chart being virtually empty doesn't help matters and Chiron seems to be down there, too, in five, right?

Just be glad there's no t squares

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Mercury is quincunx Pluto, and square uranus and neptune, hardly any positive aspects, if any.

Venus and pluto making me paranoid? .. Well It Is touching the asc..

posted April 11, 2013 09:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Nicole401:
Venus and pluto making me paranoid? .. Well It Is touching the asc..

& yes, that dang chiron is in The 5th

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posted April 11, 2013 09:27 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Venus and Pluto combination in opposition is sorta like Venus in Scorpio or Aries a little and it might make you a bit paranoid. Could be jealousy in yourself or friends toward you. Could be some intensity/control issues. It is on the ascendant/descendant axis so this could be very intense at times. Transits could trigger it. Might want to keep an eye on the transiting moon.[/B]

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Hmm that makes sense, makes me wary about female friends at times. & the moon? Its funny how I can't stand the moon in the 1st house, near the Venus, and when it opposes my natal moon, it makes me antsy, almost depressed.

posted April 11, 2013 09:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Nicole401:
I Have Always blamed all the Uranus stuff in my chart for that.. Makes me think twice

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Actually that wasn't true. The top half of a chart is the social and "other"-oriented houses. The 11th house is friends, and you have a stellium there. The seventh house is the "other" and Libran/Venusian in nature, and your moon is there. All your activity goes on in social houses so it's not really accurate to say the problem is that you have nothing in social houses and can't connect with other people - if anything it's the opposite, the ability to connect with people is innate in you, or if it isn't, life will present you with plenty of opportunities to do so if you choose to go for it. Venus is right on your ascendant and is a social planet, also.

Actually the bottom half of a natal chart is introverted and self-oriented. I don't believe it's true either that you have a problem with grounding yourself mentally or reality either - sure, you have a hard aspect between Mercury and Neptune, but Mercury is in an Earth sign which mitigates things alot. Neptune is more about illusions and creativity anyway; Pluto can manifest more as control-issues, being suspicious of others, and typically most astrologers assign phobias and paranoia to Pluto. Your Pluto is angular, highly aspected, and does make a lot of aspects - to your Sun, and to your Mercury, and Mercury is a person's thought processes.

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Just be glad there's no t squares

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posted April 11, 2013 09:37 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
^^^ The moon can actually do you some good being in Sagittarius house seven. It is having Mercury issues though. Mercury is just not a happy camper here, lol. At least it does trine your Sun/Mars conjunction. You might need to work on Mercury somehow...

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There's an aspect between Mercury and Saturn there. Sure, it's a minor aspect but the point is that one exists, and it's a positive aspect. Saturn in harmonious aspect to Mercury would also contribute to grounding a person's thoughts, and making them more lucid and practical. And with Mercury being in Taurus, which is a pretty practical and grounded sign...the issue isn't about being disconnected from reality, the two factors I just mentioned pretty much mitigate and out-weight that Mercury-Neppy aspect. I still say the "problem" is Mercury-Pluto; the aspect between those two is hard anyway.

posted April 11, 2013 09:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Snorkel:
There's an aspect between Mercury and Saturn there. Sure, it's a minor aspect but the point is that one exists, and it's a positive aspect. Saturn in harmonious aspect to Mercury would also contribute to grounding a person's thoughts, and making them more lucid and practical. And with Mercury being in Taurus, which is a pretty practical and grounded sign...the issue isn't about being disconnected from reality, the two factors I just mentioned pretty much mitigate and out-weight that Mercury-Neppy aspect. I still say the "problem" is Mercury-Pluto; the aspect between those two is hard anyway.

Although it could really be argued, how much of a problem is it really to be somewhat on-guard and cautious out alone in public these days? I think it's more of a smart thing to do than something that should actually be classified as irrational paranoia, but go figure...

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posted April 11, 2013 09:48 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
^^^ The moon can actually do you some good being in Sagittarius house seven. It is having Mercury issues though. Mercury is just not a happy camper here, lol. At least it does trine your Sun/Mars conjunction. You might need to work on Mercury somehow...

Snorkel, I notice when people have no planets in the bottom half of their chart, they have a harder time making personal connections with others and are more like a face in the crowd. It's too impersonal. It's just what I notice about the charts with no planets in the bottom half. I don't go by what books say always but look at real life charts, too. It's the difference between a neighborhood mom and pop store and a corporation. People feel like the mom and pop store is more intimate than the corporation. The top half of the chart is the corporation, the bottom is like the mom and pop neighborhood store.

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The bottom half of the chart is the self (1st house); what you own (2nd), how you think and communicate (3rd); your home environment (4th) and only starts to get into social territory in the fifth (which symbolizes children along with personal creativity).

The seventh is the other and open enemies; the eighth is sex, death, inheritances and deep intimacy with others in a general sense. The ninth is travel, religion, spirituality and higher education/college. The tenth is career. The llth is your friends along with your hopes and wishes. The 12th is self-undoing, and group places like prisons and institutions.

The bulk of her planets are in the top half of her chart, and in not altogether shy or anti-social signs, either. Aries is a pretty bold, outgoing sign. The overwhelming majority of my planets are in the upper half of my chart too and I'm constantly in situations where I have to interact with others in one way or another whether I really want it or not. Honestly the same is true of most other people I know well whose planets are in the upper half of their charts, also. The only curious exception is my younger sister, who has almost everything in the lower half of her chart and is probably the most social person I know and constantly surrounded with people, by choice. Didn't make sense to me until I realized that most of her planets are in Sagittarius, an extremely outgoing sign, which really mitigates things and is almost like having all her planets in the top half of her chart anyway.