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Topic: Do you suffer from decision fatigue?
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Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 1476 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 11, 2013 09:12 AM
In what areas of your life do you think it impacts you the most? which area of your everyday life are you the most capable and most efficient decision maker and which area you feel you slip down a notch when it comes to making decisions?You are most happy handing over the decision making podium to someone else.You go out for lunch and you prefer that your friend choose the menu for you, for instance, but back in the office you are the master of decision making.OR do you not suffer from decision fatigue AT ALL,that is you are never tired of making decisions, you, in fact need to be in total control and you are confident that you are sound decision making machine?What is your Sun sign, where is your Mars and pluto, and any other aspects/planets that you think is relevant? IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 86 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 11, 2013 10:48 AM
I have Aries Ascending with Mars(the ruler) in the 7th house of Libra.I am very involved in partnerships and am often the decision-maker. I refer to others for input ofourse, but usually I have already made a choice(just need confirmation). When it comes to career, relationships and sex-I prefer to be "on top" and be the one who takes charge. But I really do have a poor fashion sense and so, in other places that I am not so certain in, I am prone to take advice from others. But usually in those places, once I get the "hang" of it, I don't need their assistance anymore.(except with fashion; that is an ongoing struggle) Sun- Sag Mars-Libra Pluto-Scorpio Mars opposite Ascendant Mars square Moon Mars square Mercury Mars sextile Jupiter Pluto sextile Neptune Pluto sextile Jupiter Pluto sextile Sun
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Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 1476 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 11, 2013 12:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
(except with fashion; that is an ongoing struggle)Sun- Sag Mars-Libra Pluto-Scorpio Mars opposite Ascendant Mars square Moon Mars square Mercury Mars sextile Jupiter Pluto sextile Neptune Pluto sextile Jupiter Pluto sextile Sun
LOL I've noticed Sag suns have a blurry fashion sense :P But what I like with them, they are so enthusiastic to learn IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 1476 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 11, 2013 12:47 PM
The term decision fatigue was coined based on Freud's theory of ego depletion.He said that the ego/the self undergoes a loss of energy through mental activities. Psychologists later on, used that theory to set up several experiments with people of different backgrounds and different level of self control.These experiments basically demonstrated that the mind has an finite reservoir of mental energy for exerting self control. They proved that a group of people who have used up so much of their energy at resisting a delicious high calories dough nut,for instance is more likely to give in to the next temptation exercise. The more energy we spend at making decisions,the more our will power takes a hit. I think astrologically speaking Mars has a lot to do with how much will power we have.In Vedic, he is the Warrior, always ready to go to war.I also think Mars is a clever planet, he knows when to step up and when to go in dormant phase - LOL I've seen powerful CEOs who are absolute machines at decision making in the boardroom feebly give in to their wives when it comes to how ''we'll design our living room'' I think,at the end of their busy days, they are just too tired to fight with their wives about the color of the curtains! One has Mars in Cap, the other Mars in Virgo. Quite interesting to note! IP: Logged |
Snorkel Knowflake Posts: 166 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted April 11, 2013 11:45 PM
I absolutely get decision fatigue. I have a stellium in Libra and a few planets in the 7th house also, so it take me a while to decide on ANYthing and it's exhausting.Which is why usually when it comes to the little things, I do tend to hand over the decision-making to other people - I really don't care where we go to eat, I'll find something I like on the menu regardless - but in general I'm way too strong-willed to give over everything; when it comes to the big decisions I'm adamant about deciding for myself, what choice I make. I'm pretty Uranian too, and I have a lot of Leo; neither is really that big on letting others tell them what to do. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 747 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 11, 2013 11:48 PM
I get it too with my Libra planets.IP: Logged |
its_aqua Knowflake Posts: 328 From: Mars Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 12:37 AM
I dont suffer from decision fatigue at all. In fact I want to be in control,and let others decide instead of me when I dont really have a problem with the outcome of their decision f.i: if i like two movies, i dont mind my friends choosing one of them to watch.Sun in Aqua(8th house) and Mars in Gemini(12th house) Pluto in Scorpio(6th house). Sun is exactly quintile Pluto Sun is conjunct Saturn Sun is conjunct N.Node Sun is trine Mars Mars is trine Saturn IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 1476 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 12:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by its_aqua: I dont suffer from decision fatigue at all. In fact I want to be in control,and let others decide instead of me when I dont really have a problem with the outcome of their decision f.i: if i like two movies, i dont mind my friends choosing one of them to watch.Sun in Aqua(8th house) and Mars in Gemini(12th house) Pluto in Scorpio(6th house). Sun is exactly quintile Pluto Sun is conjunct Saturn Sun is conjunct N.Node Sun is trine Mars Mars is trine Saturn
Hmmm...if you want to be in control and if you don't suffer from decision fatigue at all, wouldn't you have wanted to choose the movie? IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 1476 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 12:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: I get it too with my Libra planets.
I bet that must be really exhausting huh starlight? Libra is known for their undecisiveness.However your Leo venus must at times put her foot down when she wants something.Right? IP: Logged |
its_aqua Knowflake Posts: 328 From: Mars Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 01:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: Hmmm...if you want to be in control and if you don't suffer from decision fatigue at all, wouldn't you have wanted to choose the movie?
Yeah sure, but sometimes if it isnt something very important (like choosing a movie) I let my friends choose, cause I can be very controlling especially over serious matters, so I feel like I owe it to them. Do you get what I mean? Of course i would have chosen the movie, I just let them do it so they feel like their opinion is respected too IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 1476 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 01:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Snorkel: I absolutely get decision fatigue. I have a stellium in Libra and a few planets in the 7th house also, so it take me a while to decide on ANYthing and it's exhausting.Which is why usually when it comes to the little things, I do tend to hand over the decision-making to other people - I really don't care where we go to eat, I'll find something I like on the menu regardless - but in general I'm way too strong-willed to give over everything; when it comes to the big decisions I'm adamant about deciding for myself, what choice I make. I'm pretty Uranian too, and I have a lot of Leo; neither is really that big on letting others tell them what to do.
LOL totally agree on the Uranian and leo part I have Uranus sq ASC, Leo sun,venus,mercury and saturn all in the 7th house. Natural 7th house Libra is my 10th house. For me, Uranus is my own nemesis lol..it squares my 7th house stellium...okay I have a better control of it NOW...as I grow older but when I was younger it made me act impulsively, out of the box kinda of way,and mostly I'll get to regret about the things that I've done or said at leisure But now, I have a love/hate relationship with it! IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 1476 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 01:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by its_aqua: Yeah sure, but sometimes if it isnt something very important (like choosing a movie) I let my friends choose, cause I can be very controlling especially over serious matters, so I feel like I owe it to them. Do you get what I mean? Of course i would have chosen the movie, I just let them do it so they feel like their opinion is respected too
awww so you ARE a manipulative little person afterall Welcome to the Ladies Manipulative Club lol I get what you mean totally. I think it's because you care about their feelings. I do it too,sometimes, and people don't have a clue that I manipulated them in choosing what I wanted initially but at the same time make them feel as if they've decided on it. So it's kinda of a win-win situation IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 747 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 01:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: I bet that must be really exhausting huh starlight? Libra is known for their undecisiveness.However your Leo venus must at times put her foot down when she wants something.Right?
Leo Venus is my one saving grace, Jessica! Helps me be a bit more assertive than I would with a different Venus placement but those Libra planets, especially Mercury, tend to make shopping a long, drawn-out chore with all the package reading and looking at the same thing numerous times trying to decide. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 1476 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 01:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: Leo Venus is my one saving grace, Jessica! Helps me be a bit more assertive than I would with a different Venus placement but those Libra planets, especially Mercury, tend to make shopping a long, drawn-out chore with all the package reading and looking at the same thing numerous times trying to decide.
That's what I was thinking exactly. Do you have your sun in Libra? or your moon? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 747 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 01:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: That's what I was thinking exactly.Do you have your sun in Libra? or your moon?
Just three planets: Mercury/Jupiter/Uranus and the ascendant is at 9 degrees Libra exactly with those three getting ready to cross it but not allowed to due to my impeccable timing. The ascendant is probably what does it most and Mercury since it rules the sun sign. IP: Logged |
Snorkel Knowflake Posts: 166 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted April 12, 2013 01:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: LOL totally agree on the Uranian and leo part I have Uranus sq ASC, Leo sun,venus,mercury and saturn all in the 7th house. Natural 7th house Libra is my 10th house. For me, Uranus is my own nemesis lol..it squares my 7th house stellium...okay I have a better control of it NOW...as I grow older but when I was younger it made me act impulsively, out of the box kinda of way,and mostly I'll get to regret about the things that I've done or said at leisure But now, I have a love/hate relationship with it!
Uranus is my chart ruler AND on an angle.I've pretty much always been, and will always be, "impulsive" and "out of the box". I think that's just my fundamental nature, and I like it, I don't really have any interest in trying to change it and I don't feel any shame about ANYthing I've ever said or done because it was true to what I felt in that moment. If a natal chart is supposed to be someone's natural inclinations and hard-wiring (and it is), I'm clearly, clearly not meant to be a sedate, conservative, cautious little wallflower lmao. God had His own very definite ideas of what He wanted me to be, for sure.
Also, I'm gonna admit...frankly, being me is just too much fun. I'm gonna have a bunch of wtf-ish stories to tell my grandkids when I'm an old fart, that's for sure... IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 1476 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 01:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: Just three planets: Mercury/Jupiter/Uranus and the ascendant is at 9 degrees Libra exactly with those three getting ready to cross it but not allowed to due to my impeccable timing.The ascendant is probably what does it most and Mercury since it rules the sun sign.
How about your Mars? Where is your mars? *wow thinking about my own chart here for a bit, the ruler of my ascendant is in leo, my mercury is in leo, my sun is in leo...LOL...NOW I know why people tell me am too assertive * IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 1476 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 01:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by Snorkel: Uranus is my chart ruler AND on an angle.I've pretty much always been, and will always be, "impulsive" and "out of the box". I think that's just my fundamental nature, and I like it, I don't really have any interest in trying to change it and I don't feel any shame about ANYthing I've ever said or done because it was true to what I felt in that moment. If a natal chart is supposed to be someone's natural inclinations and hard-wiring (and it is), I'm clearly, clearly not meant to be a sedate, conservative, cautious little wallflower lmao. God had His own very definite ideas of what He wanted me to be, for sure.Also, I'm gonna admit...frankly, being me is just too much fun. I'm gonna have a bunch of wtf-ish stories to tell my grandkids when I'm an old fart, that's for sure...
WTG snorkel!!!! LOL I totally get what you mean LOL I've learned to keep my extreme eccentricites well hidden when I'm at work LOL, but hey sometimes it pops out like a rabbit out of the magician's hat haha!! IP: Logged |
its_aqua Knowflake Posts: 328 From: Mars Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 01:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: awww so you ARE a manipulative little person afterall Welcome to the Ladies Manipulative Club lol I get what you mean totally. I think it's because you care about their feelings. I do it too,sometimes, and people don't have a clue that I manipulated them in choosing what I wanted initially but at the same time make them feel as if they've decided on it. So it's kinda of a win-win situation
Hehe Jess I do AM a manipulative little person, haha Blame Pluto for aspecting every single planet Yeah, I do care for their feelings,so it's exactly what you deacribed: a win-win situation IP: Logged |
Snorkel Knowflake Posts: 166 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted April 12, 2013 01:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: WTG snorkel!!!! LOL I totally get what you mean LOL I've learned to keep my extreme eccentricites well hidden when I'm at work LOL, but hey sometimes it pops out like a rabbit out of the magician's hat haha!!
I don't even TRY to hide anything. I can't really anyway, I'm so fundamentally out there that it ends up always coming to the surface regardless, it's like expecting Boy George to successfully pass as a straight investment banker. Coincidentally, Uranus is actually IN my ninth house so I already know that in my career I'll be seen as the rebellious weirdo anyway. Probably like House.
I saw what you said there about your Leo placements. I'm just gonna be honest with you - when people say you're "too" something-or-other, really what it translates out to is them saying, "I just can't handle you". I've learned in the last few years that when people can't really handle another person's energy they cope by trying to make the other person see those things as a flaw in themselves that needs to be corrected, because they feel threatened. Don't change anything. The problem is theirs alone, not yours. The problem isn't you, but that you need stronger people around you that can hold their own and understand you better. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 747 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 01:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: How about your Mars? Where is your mars?*wow thinking about my own chart here for a bit, the ruler of my ascendant is in leo, my mercury is in leo, my sun is in leo...LOL...NOW I know why people tell me am too assertive *
I think you are an excellent communicator! I always look forward to your posts for certain and you are so warm and friendly too which is the best part of all and Saturn makes you organized. I can tell you are definitely a keen organizer just going by the way you express yourself on here. As far as Mars goes, it's stuck in the third in the sign Sagittarius. Don't mind the sign but would rather have it in a better house with better aspects. It only has a square to Pluto and another to the sun with a tremendously wide orb. I also discovered it quintiles my Libra ascendant/Jupiter/Mercury which is supposed to be good, isn't it? I hope because it's the only hope for this Mars, lol.
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Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 1476 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 02:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by Snorkel: I don't even TRY to hide anything. I can't really anyway, I'm so fundamentally out there that it ends up always coming to the surface regardless, it's like expecting Boy George to successfully pass as a straight investment banker. Coincidentally, Uranus is actually IN my ninth house so I already know that in my career I'll be seen as the rebellious weirdo anyway. Probably like House.I saw what you said there about your Leo placements. I'm just gonna be honest with you - when people say you're "too" something-or-other, really what it translates out to is them saying, "I just can't handle you". I've learned in the last few years that when people can't really handle another person's energy they cope by trying to make the other person see those things as a flaw in themselves that needs to be corrected, because they feel threatened. Don't change anything. The problem is theirs alone, not yours. The problem isn't you, but that you need stronger people around you that can hold their own and understand you better.
House is a genius I love the guy! I can see you are into psychoanalyzing too. Thing is snorkel, my Uranus is in my 10th house but in scorp. I can't be in a job for long, I don't like routine, I don't like dull people with no initiative.Even if I try riding below the radar, I'll end up being in the centre of the stage.This is not all the time a good thing believe me I want to be my own boss,that's my aim Upper Management feels threatnened by me on many levels, I do know that.I don't have respect for people who are incompetent fools,it doesn't matter much to me whether they are higher up than me in the hierachy,I'll give them a piece of my mind,being a woman doesn't help because guys HATE when a woman proves to be more capable than them and yes they do try to make you feel like you are flawed.That's why I love my leo stellium,at work it helps me so much,not to let myself be influenced by negativity,keep my ground no matter what. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 1476 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 03:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Jessica2407: [b] How about your Mars? Where is your mars?*wow thinking about my own chart here for a bit, the ruler of my ascendant is in leo, my mercury is in leo, my sun is in leo...LOL...NOW I know why people tell me am too assertive *
I think you are an excellent communicator! I always look forward to your posts for certain and you are so warm and friendly too which is the best part of all and Saturn makes you organized. I can tell you are definitely a keen organizer just going by the way you express yourself on here. As far as Mars goes, it's stuck in the third in the sign Sagittarius. Don't mind the sign but would rather have it in a better house with better aspects. It only has a square to Pluto and another to the sun with a tremendously wide orb. I also discovered it quintiles my Libra ascendant/Jupiter/Mercury which is supposed to be good, isn't it? I hope because it's the only hope for this Mars, lol. [/B][/QUOTE] Thank you for the kind words I'm indeed very good at organizing. If only you knew lol. I blame it on my Virgo Mars. Quintiles are gift aspects,so yeah I guess it's good to have mars quintile aspect on the ascendant. I don't exactly know how quintiles aspects work though. I have mercury and venus quintiles my MC exact.It must be a latent energy within you that you can develop at will I'm guessing? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 747 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 03:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: Thank you for the kind words I'm indeed very good at organizing. If only you knew lol. I blame it on my Virgo Mars. Quintiles are gift aspects,so yeah I guess it's good to have mars quintile aspect on the ascendant. I don't exactly know how quintiles aspects work though. I have mercury and venus quintiles my MC exact.It must be a latent energy within you that you can develop at will I'm guessing?
YW, Jessica. Virgo Mars is a big help, too. You have Saturn and Mars working for you. Quintiles I only just started paying attention to. If you have them to Venus, it's suppose to mean artistic gifts of some kind, like musical, drawing, sculpting, painting or maybe just oozing charm from every pore? These are your innate talents and abilities that you don't have to work to develop. Wish I had an entire chart full. I guess some kind of artistic skill or charm would help you in your career goals if Venus quintiles the MC. You might have a knack for promoting the congenial environment at work. The Mars quintile to Mercury is supposed to make me prone to arguments. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 1476 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 12, 2013 03:49 AM
^^ Hehe I don't know I haven't seen an arguing streak with you on here yet. Libras are peace loving, harmonious people I doubt you would argue just for the sake of arguing.If you are arguing you must have a pretty good reason. Libra is my MC, I guess it's nice to have venus-Mercury exact conjunction quintile on the MC. According to astro Venus is my most dominant planet. I never thought about it TBH I'm not good at drawing/painting/sculpting, but am good at singing/dancing. I took private classes when I was small. As for my virgo mars, I think it's afflicted pretty much, sq neptune exact,inconjunct pluto,mercury,venus at a very tight orbs. IP: Logged | |