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Faith
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posted April 15, 2013 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@neilthecellist:

You call people "subjects" and keep files on them? That's a little creepy! I find it hard to believe you've gotten close enough to that many people with Pisces moons to be a good judge of their character. You seem like the type of person a Pisces moon would intuitively avoid.

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Only 1 out of the 24 subjects I know with a Moon in Pisces went far in life. The others thought that they were"done" with life.

How old are you? Sounds like you are talking about college kids. Give 'em time!

Famous People with Moon in Pisces:
Martin Scorsese, Kathy Bates, Robert DeNiro, Morgan Freeman, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Hugh Hefner, Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo, Paul Newman, Elvis Presley, Martin Luther King, Jr., Frank Sinatra, Edgar Allan Poe, Prince

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posted April 15, 2013 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
@neilthecellist:

You call people "subjects" and keep files on them? That's a little creepy! I find it hard to believe you've gotten close enough to that many people with Pisces moons to be a good judge of their character. You seem like the type of person a Pisces moon would intuitively avoid.



I know, right? Total creeper. No social skills, must have an afflicted Venus or something.

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posted April 15, 2013 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't necessarily disagree, though, that Pisces moons are less ambitious than other moon signs. We are. We just don't value materialism or attention as highly as most people. Even in the celebrity world, those with a Pisces moon aren't cut-throat out to score publicity points, most are retiring compared to other celebs of their sun sign (think: Winona Ryder, Lisa Marie Presely).

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neilthecellist
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posted April 15, 2013 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neilthecellist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
@neilthecellist:

You call people "subjects" and keep files on them? That's a little creepy! I find it hard to believe you've gotten close enough to that many people with Pisces moons to be a good judge of their character. You seem like the type of person a Pisces moon would intuitively avoid.


A shame you think that way. Noel Tyl referred to them as that, and called them natives too. He has fathered modern astrology and clearly has left a strong legacy behind. Astrologers keep "files" on their clients, subjects, natives, whatever they're to be called. I personally call them subjects, because not all of them turn out to be clients.

Your opinion is irrelevant to me, my astrology services will continue.

How else do you expect an astrologer to keep track and systematically file their clients? They're files, regardless of how you spin it. Accounting and human resources are systematic ideas as well. I'm sorry you disagree with reality.

As I've said before, I've had one subject with Pisces moon go far in life. He is now teaching at university. I would not classify him as a "college kid".

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Originally posted by Snorkel:
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I kinda guffawed quietly to myself when I read this...trust me, it's the Pisces Moon doing it, not the Gemini. My former friend was the same way.

She'd get on the computer and whine and cry to me all day about how awful her husband supposedly is and how miserable he was making her and talking to strange guys on the internet and cracking sexual/dirty jokes with them...while she was living off of her husband while he went out and busted his hump providing for her.

All she did was sit on her butt all day, didn't work for most of that time - her "excuse" was that she couldn't do anything with her college degree (even though my sister has a degree in the same major and had no problems finding a well-paying job and living in a decent apartment with a nice car and money to blow on vacations overseas). At one point I flat out asked Pisces-Moon-ex-friend why she wouldn't leave her husband and she told me that in a few years she'd qualify for alimony...last I heard she was mentioning something about them buying a house together...then after that I found out she's messing around with an ex-boyfriend of mine or something.

They aren't all bad - I've known other Pisces Moons and in general their good side is very sweet - but the bad side of them can be exactlyyy like you just said.


Similar experience with Pisces moon subjects here as well. I dismissed a client at one point for lying to me about the truth in her relationship. It's pointless to help a liar.

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Aquacheeka
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posted April 15, 2013 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
neilthecellist, you can't blame us for not automatically detecting that you're an astrologer and would archive things towards this end. Astrologers work with people. This requires a certain amount of diplomacy and social skills, both of which you clearly lack. Your bedside manner is extremely dry and would be off-putting to most clientele. So I think we all just assumed you were a random, Steve Urkell-like weirdo. I mean, it IS the internet; those aren't exactly in short supply on here.

Are you by any chance autistic?

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Chicanes
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posted April 15, 2013 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chicanes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
I don't necessarily disagree, though, that Pisces moons are less ambitious than other moon signs. We are. We just don't value materialism or attention as highly as most people. Even in the celebrity world, those with a Pisces moon aren't cut-throat out to score publicity points, most are retiring compared to other celebs of their sun sign (think: Winona Ryder, Lisa Marie Presely).

I agree except Kim Kardashian has her Moon in Pisces and lets the side down.

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Aquacheeka
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posted April 15, 2013 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Paul Newman is actually a good example as well. He literally retired from the limelight, moved to a quiet place with his wife and started making organic salad dressing.

We just don't care about stuff. The kind of people who care about stuff look down on people like us, but who cares what they think. A lot of other people find this refreshing.

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posted April 15, 2013 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
I know, right? Total creeper. No social skills, must have an afflicted Venus or something.


Oh, moon square Venus. He DOES have an afflicted Venus, just as I thought. That probably explains the social retardation.

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Faith
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posted April 15, 2013 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
neilthecellist, you can't blame us for not automatically detecting that you're an astrologer and would archive things towards this end.

Especially when his opinion of Pisces mooners is so unprofessionally hypercritical, ie, "Spiritual, but uses spirituality as a scapegoat to their flaws. <-- THIS ****** me off the most."

Typically, astrologers don't get ****** off with their clientele.

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Emotionally intuitive, yes, and while they can advertise themselves as logical, it's really just a front. It's all that Neptune.

Logic is more the domain of Mercury, wouldn't you say?

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neilthecellist
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posted April 16, 2013 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neilthecellist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Typically, astrologers don't get ****** off with their clientele.

Strong disagreement here. I have witnessed from observation of other astrologers, and have heard numerous witness accounts of meetings with Noel Tyl where he expresses frustration at his clients. Anger is a natural human reaction.

Why some of you value "social skills" as a narrow minded definition baffles me, and your automatic belief that I have none only makes me shake my head in disgust for you. My "lack of social skills" that you propose has landed me enough management and leadership positions at a young age, and has landed me more clients that is well more than what I initially bargained for. I have no use for more than the required social skills. I have a purpose and use for people. That is all. Like the rest of my generation, I've got a Capricorn stellium, and mine exists in the first house.

Your judgment of my Venus begs a question that wasn't asked until I ask it now: Many natives and/or subjects of my generation whom I graduated with or didn't born in the 1990, 1991, and arguably some in 1992 had Venus conjunct the Capricorn stellium, or square. Many of these subjects are now professors, engineers, prominent bankers, blunt and mostly emotionless in their communication, respecting life as a system to be obeyed and reasoned with. Capricorn's catch phrase is "I use". While social skills were eventually developed, my observation of these subjects has led me to believe (andalso know) that inherent social skills are no longer necessary for success. Understanding how to market yourself via trending communication mediums such as internet social media has landed many of these natives in powerful positions. Proud parents, envious friends, powerful statuses, established self-authority, social retarded or not, why should your opinion matter?

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Randall
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posted April 16, 2013 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith and Aquacheeka, I am very disapointed in both of you. Just because you disagree with someone is no excuse for ganging up. That looks bad for LL and especially to Newflakes who may already be apprehensive about posting. Please, kindly refrain from saying anything if you can't say something nice. I am especially shocked by you, Faith, since you had someone treat you that way before.

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jupitersgirl
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posted April 16, 2013 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If we try to post example charts when we try to make a point, we can avoid generalizations and also less people would get offended, and things like this wouldn't happen.
As a pisces mooner I'm not offended by the neilthecellist's words but I would prefer to see specific charts rather than reading generalizations.
I believe in karma and try to avoid lying ( only white lies,- like telling a friend that I have things to do at home when I do't feel like going out- it would be a big lie if I say I never lie )

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Aquacheeka
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posted April 16, 2013 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith made an observation and I agreed with it. What a weird, dry way of referring to people (as "subjects") He is certainly allowed to think what he wants (Pisces mooners all lie and do drugs) but we are just as entitled to disagree with that opinion (I've never so much as smoked a cigarette in my life). Furthermore, I actually hadn't caught the posting until I saw Faith's, I was responding to her message only and thought as soon as I saw the quote that person must have an afflicted Venus because diplomacy is lacking. Turns out, I was right. If being right is "not nice," so be it.

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posted April 16, 2013 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Disagree with the opinion, but don't insult the person. One is encouraged--the other will get you banned.

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posted April 16, 2013 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Disagree with the opinion, but don't insult the person. One is encouraged--the other will get you banned.


I apologize for saying "social retardation" only. I concede that that was unnecessary and there were better, more tactful ways to phrase that bit of truth. Apart from that though, what I said is basically true and I would also add that this guy gives Cappy stelliums (of which my boyfriend is one as well) a terrible name.

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posted April 16, 2013 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharon_1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by neilthecellist:
Emotionally intuitive, but every subject I've come across with a Pisces moon is a liar, in one way, shape or form.

This is being very generalizing with Pisces moons and not in a good way, you have to look at the whole chart! Any professional astrologer knows that.


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That may change with the next subject I meet with a Pisces moon, but of the 24 I have on file that I've had thepleasure to meet (displeasure?) none of them have been great. [/b]

I've never heard an astrology say this about his clientele with a pacific planet placement, not good for business.

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Some traits I've noticed with them:
* Tendency to twist the truth.
* Spiritual, but uses spirituality as a scapegoat to their flaws. <-- THIS ****** me off the most.
* Emotionally intuitive, yes, and while they can advertise themselves as logical, it's really just a front.[/b]

This is in no way positive, there is a lot of Pisces moons in the world that are not anything even remotely like what you wrote above.

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Speaking of drugs, can you say, ESCAPISM? All 24 subjects can't focus on reality.[/b]

I've known about 6 Pisces moons, I'm one of them and we're ALL health conscious. We don't smoke, drink, do drugs legal/illegal. And also I don't take caffeine and I'm a vegetarian. But, I do know about 5 Scorpio moons that are alcoholics and 3 Aquarius' that are druggies. I would never say that all the Scorpio/Aquarius moons that I've met are ether alcoholics or drug users, as I said before, it's the whole chart that you have to look at.


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I should note, that I have a Moon in Virgo, which obviously opposes Neptune.[/b]

No, it DOESN'T oppose Neptune, unless you were born not long ago and are a baby typing or you are the oldest living person on the planet! I know that Neptune is transiting Pisces now but with what you have said before I'm assuming you think that because of Virgo is opposite Pisces that it is like being opposite Neptune, wrong.


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I design software for video game and movie technology (Neptunian stuff) but I always do it with integrity. How can you not? If I fudge something, a customer will know if/when a software bug or glitch appears during use. [/b]

Why didn't you mention that you were an astrologer here, you mention your other job?
You are on an astrology website! I call bull$h!t on you saying that you're an astrologer. I could say I'm an astrologer or the queen of Sheba but it doesn't make it so. Pisces moons have very strong intuition and that's what I get from what you have written.


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Therefore, I am inclined to deduce that regardless of Virgo or Pisces moon, or any moon, ALL subjects should be capable of telling the truth, Neptunian influence or not. Not coming forward with the truth is just living the "shadow" side of your sign(s).[/b]

What's this, your very bad disclaimer from the bull you have written above?

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I need to meet more people with Pisces Moon that aren'tliving the shadow.[/b]

No you don't! Stay away from us!


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posted April 16, 2013 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharon_1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, the "No you don't! Stay away from us!" was maybe too much. But maybe your negativity is only bringing these people to you because I know I would avoid someone in real life for thinking what you wrote.

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posted April 16, 2013 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not asking for an apology. I am merely stating the fact that if you insult members you will be banned. If you value your time here, be mindful of how you treat others. And if you don't, then c'est la vie. If you can't say something nice, then say nothing. If you can't help yourself, then, perhaps you are the one who is socially inept.

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posted April 16, 2013 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His whole post was an insult. And an exercise in kissing one's own butt.

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posted April 16, 2013 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The difference is he focused on a placement. You focused on a person.

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posted April 16, 2013 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’ve seen that they get along really well with Scorpio moon men. I find pisces moon-scorpio moon bond amazing.

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jupitersgirl
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posted April 16, 2013 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I completely agree with you annonymidarkness!

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posted April 16, 2013 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, it's okay for neilthecellist to say Pisces mooners are liars, losers, escapists, drug addicts, etcetera, but I can't say that his file building sounds creepy?

I don't really get why this is "ganging up" when all I said to Aquacheeka was, he doesn't seem like a professional astrologer.

Meanwhile he gets no warning to try and be a little less insulting. Or do we have license to be offensive, so long as we are couching everything in astrological terms? These are genuine questions; I'm a little mystified by the apparent double standard. If I had said, "neil, it's typical for Virgo moons to do creepy stuff like keep files on people," that would have been fine?

And no one treated me the way I'm "treating" neil. *Someone* follows me around this site making nasty comments about my placements (I'm amazed she isn't here yet, ridiculing Pisces moons) and that is nothing like what's going on here.

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posted April 16, 2013 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sharon_1977:

Why didn't you mention that you were an astrologer here, you mention your other job?
You are on an astrology website! I call bull$h!t on you saying that you're an astrologer. I could say I'm an astrologer or the queen of Sheba but it doesn't make it so. Pisces moons have very strong intuition and that's what I get from what you have written.


Yes, he's a cellist and video game designer, AND an astrologer...who doesn't seem to know much about astrology.

But WE are the liars?

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posted April 16, 2013 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, that would be passive aggressive to veil an insult based on what was said by a person. I really don't see what the major malfunction is. I could say that all Geminis are two-faced based upon my experience. It doesn't make it true, and no one should take it personally. And I'm adding Sharon to the warning. Did I call you a liar, Faith? No one is in any position to say who is or isn't an Astrologer, and it's none of your business anyway. Someone can't work two jobs? Address the issues, but do not issue any personal attacks. Don't even argue with me about it. Just do it. If anyone personally attacks another member, they are not going to remain here. I will not tolerate it. If anyone can't control those impulses, then it is best not to say anything and just ignore. Can we get this string back on track, please?

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