posted May 05, 2013 03:52 PM              

Yes, really.

If this rising sign= future sign theory is true, I'm annoyed because I've been doing the Aquarian thing for a good while now - my south node is in Aquarius, my ascendant is Aquarius, and I have Uranus angular. So apparently I had an Aquarian bent in my last life, this one too, and supposedly I'm supposed to come back in the next as an Aquarius? Dude. I like Aquarian energy but I'm not interested in taking multiple laps around the same track like that.

Honestly,I don't think it's even possible to be able to say for sure what sign someone will be. I don't think we're supposed to know that anyway, and hell, whose to say that it even stays consistent? Maybe if you don't learn or do everything you were meant to in the last life, you "flunk" and come back as the same sign or with mostly the same placements, when if you'd gotten it right and passed, you would've become a different sign.

All that aside, if it's all just a crapshoot...I really, REALLY don't want any planets in :

Capricorn
Aries
Sagittarius

posted May 05, 2013 04:15 PM            

Of course, I won't know, in my future life, any of this one so it doesn't really matter. My next sun/moon/ascendant will be all I am aware of so I will probably like them no matter what they are.

posted May 05, 2013 04:19 PM              

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I wouldn't mind being a Libra in a future life but I do not want Venus in Virgo no way. Too rough a placement. I want sun, Venus and Mercury all in Libra or it's no deal. Don't want any Scorpio planets either.

Of course, I won't know, in my future life, any of this one so it doesn't really matter. My next sun/moon/ascendant will be all I am aware of so I will probably like them no matter what they are.

With my luck I will have a Virgo stellium like my mom, all in house 12 which is really difficult to have, for her and everyone who has to deal with her.

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posted May 05, 2013 04:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Chirp:
I have that, it's not so bad; it's the square from Neptune that's the real ***** in the equation.

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Yeah but you're Leo ruled by the sun and if the sun is in Leo when you were born, well, you know. It's dignified no matter what.

posted May 05, 2013 07:00 PM              

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Yeah but you're Leo ruled by the sun and if the sun is in Leo when you were born, well, you know. It's dignified no matter what.

Friedrich Nietzsche is an example of a Libra sun with Venus in Virgo and look at all the health problems he had. I don't want to run the risk. I would rather have it in Leo, Libra or Sag if it is going to rule my sun sign.

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posted May 05, 2013 07:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Chirp:
This is my first time ever hearing that a planet in fall is less...in fall lmao...because of the sign the sun is in. And I do mean ever; I think most astrologers would consider it messed up no matter what sign the sun is in. Myself I actually like the placement. Venus in Aries, Leo, Sag or Gemini would probably be something I'd complain about. Or even worse, Cap.

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In your chart, Venus would not have as much influence over something like your health unless it rules your sun, moon or rising and it does not, right? Oh wait, it does rule your Libra moon, but still, not as bad as ruling rising and sun, maybe? Sure, it could inconvenience your love life and how well you get along with people, but if it's in fall and rules an important sign in your chart, then it can really do you over on all levels like it did Nietzsche. At least with the sun in Leo, you only have to worry about moon and rising unless your sun is mucho afflicted and in a bad house.

posted May 05, 2013 11:26 PM              

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Originally posted by MorteImperator:
There is an alternative theory called Soul Astrology in which your soul is your Ascendant and you chose to be born as your current Sun Sign because you never experienced living as it before.

So according to that theory, you won't be reborn as your current Sun Sign again. Your true core is your Ascendant because its your soul .

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Actually no, that's Esoteric Astrology and it's totally different from modern Western astrology. Different rulerships for the signs and everything - example, in Esoteric Astrology Libra is ruled by Uranus.

In Western astrology I've seen some people say your 'soul' is your sun, or your moon sign. I've also seen Western Astrology buffs say it's your Western Heliocentric Chart, or your Western Draconic chart.

In Vedic your soul is your ninth harmonic chart, I think?

In Western Astrology they say your past life is probably connected to your south node; I've even seen discussions in passing associating Draconic charts with past lives. I've seen the IC mentioned in connection with that too but that's a rare one.

posted May 06, 2013 01:09 AM              

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Originally posted by Chirp:

Actually no, that's Esoteric Astrology and it's totally different from modern Western astrology. Different rulerships for the signs and everything - example, in Esoteric Astrology Libra is ruled by Uranus.

In Western astrology I've seen some people say your 'soul' is your sun, or your moon sign. I've also seen Western Astrology buffs say it's your Western Heliocentric Chart, or your Western Draconic chart.

In Vedic your soul is your ninth harmonic chart, I think?

In Western Astrology they say your past life is probably connected to your south node; I've even seen discussions in passing associating Draconic charts with past lives. I've seen the IC mentioned in connection with that too but that's a rare one.

In short? Everybody has a theory, a lot of them contradict each other, and no one can really say for sure what, if anything, indicates the soul astrologically.

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However Esoteric states that the Moon is the past life and Ascendant Future life.

Soul Astrology states the Ascendant is the Soul and you've chosen this life your current Sun Sign because you never experienced it before as this sign.

But yes I agree there are so many disorganized theories out there we don't know for sure.

posted May 06, 2013 05:00 AM            

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Originally posted by sharpei:
im gemini rising and DO NOT WANT to be gemini sun in my next life!! do you really believe this is true - what are the alternative views on reincarnation and ones next sun sign?

i want to be like an aries or pisces not a gemini ugh- ok ill compromise and can do libra!

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posted May 06, 2013 05:53 AM              

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Originally posted by MorteImperator:
However Esoteric states that the Moon is the past life and Ascendant Future life.

Soul Astrology states the Ascendant is the Soul and you've chosen this life your current Sun Sign because you never experienced it before as this sign.

But yes I agree there are so many disorganized theories out there we don't know for sure.

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You've got it all mixed up - you keep calling Esoteric Astrology, soul astrology. It's esoteric astrology that believes the soul of a person is their ascendant. They don't call it Soul Astrology, it's referred to as strictly Esoteric Astrology, which they claim believe, is "soul centred". A Google backs up what I'm saying here because of the the first website links you get does exactly that, refers to it as being named Esoteric Astrology and then says that its purpose has to do with the soul.

Really though that's just one school of thought, and there's plenty of others with a totally different set of rules that claim the exact same thing. You're probably in the general ballpark though when you say that they refer to the moon as the past life, in the sense that in general Esoteric Astrology places little importance on the moon, and either Bailey or Blavatsky said outright that in their particular branch of astrology, the moon is almost useless and unimportant. Bailey wrote a book on Esoteric Astrology.

Everybody's free to believe in what they want - personally I can't really take Esoteric seriously because right from the beginning they assign the planets to signs that don't fit them, at all imo. I keep mentioning the Uranus/Libra thing because I find it so nonsensical; anyone that's been around anybody that's heavily Libran can tell you that they're all about trying to maintain peace at all costs and blend and be Nice and not rock the boat. Uranus is a totally different energy that couldn't care less about whether or not the boat gets rocked and to some extent goes out of its way to shake things up and be "different".Venus ruling Libra makes more sense to me.

Sure, I have four planets in Libra and I'm pretty "out there" in a general sense but that same tendency can be explained by the fact that I'm an Aqua ascendant, with Uranus tightly conjunct my midheaven and trining my ascendant. My south node is in Aquarius, too. In short I don't think it's the Libra placements that make me nonconformist.

posted May 06, 2013 05:56 AM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
With reincarnation you learn the lessons of each sign in order to evolve.
Your (current) rising sign shows where you are in your quest to reach Nirvana.
http://classiclegendbooks.com/allegory.html

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That's for Sun Sign.

posted May 06, 2013 06:38 AM            

what does it mean to say your ascendant is your soul? as in your true core being? i think we all have an individual true core being alongside the fluctuations of life/lives