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Jkitty
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posted May 06, 2013 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I figured this out by reading your posts and seeing your chart confirmed it: You've got Neptune conjunct your Sun. Even though the orb is about 8-degrees and it's out of sign (perhaps it's felt more keenly because it's out of sign), this will definately give ambiguity to your identity, especially since Neptune also sextiles your ASC. Neptune gives sensitivity, but also vagueness, lack of clarity, ambiguity, etc. It would make it more difficult for you to see yourself clearly and also for other's to see you clearly. On the positive side, if you want to take up acting, I bet you'd have a talent for that!

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Kerosene
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posted May 06, 2013 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing wrong with experimenting and exploring, its perfectly healthy.

You could date bisexual men, they will still be sexually attracted to you and some have qualities akin to homosexuals. Thats the only healthy possibility for what you're looking for
Anyways who are we to judge your tastes and sexual preferences, if its something you're into go for it!

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GiggityGirl
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posted May 06, 2013 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GiggityGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't say this is an astrological issue at all. I would suggest contacting some transgender hotlines and forums, though, if not a professional therapist.

Your OP was so full of contradiction:

I´m bi, and I feel like a gay man on the inside. I wish I was a man.

So, you are sexually attracted to women, but then you also feel like a gay man, which would mean you are NOT sexually attracted to women, but at the end of the day, you wish you were a guy anyhow.

I look androgynous, pretty cute, and actually kind of feminine.

It's an either/or. You can't look like either gender, and also look feminine.

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Odette
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posted May 06, 2013 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any relationship can work if it feels mutual - It takes two to tango.
My gay friend proposed a couple of weeks back lol
He was kind of joking... *kind of*.
But I feel loved. I like his friendship. We have a good vibe.

What's important is that - that person makes you happy and that you make them happy.

If you gave it your best shot and it doesn't work.. then you have to end it imo

I'm not saying to end it with your crush ... right now..

But if you try to be 'normal' around him, like we were saying - and say hi - and just make causal convo, and he still acts standoffish... then I would just drop it.
I mean you can't force someone's hand at the end of the day.

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charlie
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posted May 06, 2013 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars in 12H conj ASC. I cross dress alot ie in suits and ties and then I do a switch and wear a skirt or dress with girly shoes. I am more fit than men you see in the gym; not physically as in muscle mass but cardiovascularly and overall performance. Some people change day to day and I say just go with the flow. The right person for you will eventually come around. I also have days when I feel extremely sexually loaded against women...a domineering trait but these are just episodes as well. I am a person that will never be static in one personality because I find them all interesting. Try it!

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Chirp
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posted May 06, 2013 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chirp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think some of you guys are doing her a disservice by giving her hope that anything will actually take off, considering that she's into a man that isn't sexually attracted to women.

There's only one way this can end, and someone will be heartbroken but it won't be HIM.

Having said that, I don't think she's confused and doesn't know who she is - her Sun-Neptune aspect isn't a hard one, so it doesn't mean issues with reality or her sense of self. You can have a very fluid sense of self without being confused or in a state of crisis; ask any Gemini, who changes their minds and tastes more than a w.hore exchanges bed partners.

Neptune is one of the outer, transpersonal signs too so it makes sense that her sense of who she is, is bigger than any of the limitations society wants to put on her, that she has to be one or the other, this or that, and probably more than most people can really process or understand...which is probably causing her to feel confused about it because we're all brought up in modern culture being overtly and not so overtly told that you have to define yourself into something very specific and stick with it and that what being a woman is, is this, and what being a man is, is that...

Basically if she didn't feel pressured to feel like only one thing or to pick something because of societal rules...she wouldn't be this neurotic and confused about it. The simple fact of the matter is that none of us think there's anything wrong with ourselves and that we have to change anything or pick one thing to be, until we start getting older and becoming part of the world more, and it makes us feel that way.

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Odette
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posted May 06, 2013 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wasn't giving her hope. Just being honest.

And she doesn't know whether her current crush is gay or not but he seems unusually stand-offish.

The guy I am friends with is gay but willing to experiment, not that we will - but I know he is willing.

A different guy in my life who was also gay was very adverse to ever being with a girl. I mean different people are different.

Either way, with this particular guy - he has some sort of issue and if he does not get over whatever his issue is.. then it's pointless to keep trying.

I was just saying that first of all she could just try to act normal/friendly for some time.. But if he still responds in a strange way then .. it's time to say: Next! Lol seriously! Because there really are other fish in the sea.

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Kerosene
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posted May 06, 2013 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Smart!
You shouldn't experiment with your gay FRIENDS.
That will always ruin the friendship, I often hear about situations like this.
Never ends well.

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somethingexcellent
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posted May 06, 2013 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Chirp: ...considering that she's into a man that isn't sexually attracted to women.

Sexual attraction isn't everything. I mean, maybe they could have a purely romantic relationship? I dunno man whatever works for them.

To the OP, I kinda guess Kerosene's idea has some weight: a bisexual partner maybe? Chart-wise, it's unrelated, but damn girl, that's a lot of earth!!!!

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plutonichooves
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posted May 07, 2013 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonichooves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Little Doe:
Hi,

I´m a girl, but I really feel like a gay man on the inside. I´ve touched on this subject in other threads.

Basically I don´t usually fall in love with straight men, I have nothing in common with them, unless they are unusually sensitive, humanitarian and empathetic, or with women, for that matter, either. The people I can relate to are gays and transvestites. But I´m not a lesbian. I´m bi, and I feel like a gay man on the inside. I wish I was a man. Do gay men feel my masculine energy and are subcounciously attracted to it? If so, can they ever be attracted to me phisically too, or am I doomed to be but a fan for the rest of my life?

There´s a gay guy in my class (he has a bf) who is always checking me out.. My ex-husband also liked guys. And in my other threads I´ve stated that I belive that my current crush is gay too, and he has shown igns of interest, but then again, he´s terribly hard to read, so I´m not sure what it means.

I´m very athletic, I have short hair and I look androgynous, pretty cute, and actually kind of feminine. I mean, I don´t mind looking feminine, since I´m not really concerned with my looks, it´s just that I would like to attract gay men attention and have a relationship with a gay man, in particular, my crush.

Astrologically speaking, can you tell me what it is in my chart that indicates my sexual ambivalence?
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i kind of like dykes too and dykes sometimes go straight for me. i don't look feminine or gay but i'm heavy on the venus.

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Little Doe
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posted May 07, 2013 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Little Doe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chirp, I´m sorry, but I have decided that there is too much negativity for me in your posts, so I will from now on not read them.

Everyone else:

I can definitely understand why people are confused by my OP. I´m all over the place with the descriptions.

Let me try again:
I´m a grirl and I´m attracted to gay and bi- guys. Sometimes I can be attracted to a girl, if I find her personality exceptional, but physically I am attracted to mens bodies.
It´s nothing unusual actually. Gay and bi men and considered to be hot in general (I know it´s a steeotype, but there´s some truth to it), so basically - you coould say I´m just a girl that likes hot men..

Having said that,the fact that naptune makes an aspect to my sun and asc definitely makes me able to take on meny different roles, even gender-roles, and I wouldn´t mind being a boy. I have been adviced by meny people to take on acting, and I will. I used to act as a teen, and I loved it. But I had stage-fright, so I started writing plays instead, but my libra mars is too lazy, so I never finished any one of them.. I will however get on it, because I HAVE to use that neptune for something good!

My chart is mostly water, and earth is second. The earth is in 3rd house, and it gives me an earthy, realistic approach to intellectual matters, and I like it. But my personality (1st house) is filled with planets in scorpio (water).

Back to the topic of this thread:

The thing that I so love about bi men (They´re actually my favourite) is NOT their sexuality. It´s their energy. I can´t explain it. They have such a good vibe.
What I love about them is that they are playful, experimental, chameleon-like.

I definitely think personality is what makes people fall inlove, not our genetalia. Love is about souls coming together, and gender doesn´t have anything to do with it. That´s my core-belief, and the people who can understand that more than anyone are bi-sexual people. So it´s no wonder that I am attracted to them. And I think they are attracted to me too. Why shouldn´t they be, right?

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Randall
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posted May 07, 2013 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Personal Readings.

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