posted May 06, 2013 09:20 PM            

Uranus = sudden, unexpected
Moon = mother

posted May 06, 2013 09:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Hey, Uranus is/was conjunct the Moon today!

Uranus = sudden, unexpected
Moon = mother

This took place 10-11 degrees of Aries. Any aspects to your chart, Charlie?

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I have a Hades Cap Moon in 5th and Uranus conj IC. NN in Scorpio 3H. Aries is in my 8th.

posted May 06, 2013 10:17 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I have a Hades Cap Moon in 5th and Uranus conj IC. NN in Scorpio 3H. Aries is in my 8th.

She is a Sun, Moon, Merc Scorpio in 8H w an Aries asc and Cap Venus.

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Hmmm. I was wondering about a transit to your chart from that position in Aries. Perhaps it squares your Cappy Moon or your Mom's Cappy Venus or is conjunct her Aries ASC? Or perhaps the transit creates a trine to a Leo or Saggy placement in one of your charts? Just curious.

posted May 06, 2013 10:21 PM              

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Originally posted by charlie:
Is it bad that I feel like celebrating with a drink or three??

I turn 37 this year btw.

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Honestly? Your reaction is weird to me, yeah.

I don't understand why people get so worked up over whether or not someone [i}says[/i] they love them. Especially their family members. I'm like, "You shouldn't have to be told that this person loves you when they wiped your poop off your butt before you could even do it yourself, kept you fed, and protected you. They shouldn't have to state the obvious."

I grew up in an emotionally undemonstrative family; my mother never told me she loved me until I was 19 and had gone away to college, and hugs were a rare phenomenon in my household. Did I care? No, because I already knew it. When she did actually say it I didn't feel anything because it was like saying "The sky is blue", to me. Then for a few seconds after that we kinda talked on awkwardly because we weren't used to talking about stuff like that.

In general I think people don't focus on the right things. They get way too hung up on words and should focus more on actions. So yeah it's weird to me that you didn't think your mom loved you and that your mind is blown because she said it, when all the years she took care of you should've answered the question for you right then and there.

posted May 06, 2013 10:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Chirp:
Honestly? Your reaction is weird to me, yeah.

I don't understand why people get so worked up over whether or not someone [i}says[/i] they love them. Especially their family members. I'm like, "You shouldn't have to be told that this person loves you when they wiped your poop off your butt before you could even do it yourself, kept you fed, and protected you. They shouldn't have to state the obvious."

I grew up in an emotionally undemonstrative family; my mother never told me she loved me until I was 19 and had gone away to college, and hugs were a rare phenomenon in my household. Did I care? No, because I already knew it. When she did actually say it I didn't feel anything because it was like saying "The sky is blue", to me. Then for a few seconds after that we kinda talked on awkwardly because we weren't used to talking about stuff like that.

In general I think people don't focus on the right things. They get way too hung up on words and should focus more on actions. So yeah it's weird to me that you didn't think your mom loved you and that your mind is blown because she said it, when all the years she took care of you should've answered the question for you right then and there.

Then again my feelings/reaction to this might be colored a bit by my own chart, where I have Venus in Virgo so to me love is shown through service to/taking care of others anyway. Someone with Venus in a sign like Gemini probably needs to actually hear the words; someone with Venus in Cancer probably needs to actually be hugged, and all that...

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posted May 06, 2013 11:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Chirp:
Honestly? Your reaction is weird to me, yeah.

I don't understand why people get so worked up over whether or not someone [i}says[/i] they love them. Especially their family members. I'm like, "You shouldn't have to be told that this person loves you when they wiped your poop off your butt before you could even do it yourself, kept you fed, and protected you. They shouldn't have to state the obvious."

I grew up in an emotionally undemonstrative family; my mother never told me she loved me until I was 19 and had gone away to college, and hugs were a rare phenomenon in my household. Did I care? No, because I already knew it. When she did actually say it I didn't feel anything because it was like saying "The sky is blue", to me. Then for a few seconds after that we kinda talked on awkwardly because we weren't used to talking about stuff like that.

In general I think people don't focus on the right things. They get way too hung up on words and should focus more on actions. So yeah it's weird to me that you didn't think your mom loved you and that your mind is blown because she said it, when all the years she took care of you should've answered the question for you right then and there.

Then again my feelings/reaction to this might be colored a bit by my own chart, where I have Venus in Virgo so to me love is shown through service to/taking care of others anyway. Someone with Venus in a sign like Gemini probably needs to actually hear the words; someone with Venus in Cancer probably needs to actually be hugged, and all that...

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Wow that was kind of harsh but i would expect that from someone with a cold venus sign.

A mother should tell a child she loves them. I told my 4 year old daughter i loved her today twice today. She said i love you too mama.

I dont give a crap what anyone says. Thats why kids nowadays grow up unemotional and eventually serial killers. Because of crappy mothers.

I hope you dont have children or if u dont please dont plan any.

You sound like my mom.

posted May 06, 2013 11:12 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Is it bad that I feel like celebrating with a drink or three??

I turn 37 this year btw.

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No... I think it's wonderful to feel like you've had a breakthrough even if only for a moment ... Yay Charlie

posted May 06, 2013 11:23 PM            

Thats a breakthrough thou!
At least she realizes she was cold towards you!
Everyone needs parental love, regardless of your age.

posted May 07, 2013 12:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
A mother should tell a child she loves them. I dont give a crap what anyone says. Thats why kids nowadays grow up unemotional and eventually serial killers. Because of crappy mothers.
I hope you dont have children or if u dont please dont plan any.
You sound like my mom.

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posted May 07, 2013 01:52 AM            

In any case I bet a mom who said she loved someone while abusing and/or allowing others to abuse her charge would do more damage than a mother who acts loving and protective yet never says it. Granted, it's best to say AND show it, but actions still count more than words.

posted May 07, 2013 03:03 AM              

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Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
Wow that was kind of harsh but i would expect that from someone with a cold venus sign.

A mother should tell a child she loves them. I told my 4 year old daughter i loved her today twice today. She said i love you too mama.

I dont give a crap what anyone says. Thats why kids nowadays grow up unemotional and eventually serial killers. Because of crappy mothers.

I hope you dont have children or if u dont please dont plan any.

You sound like my mom.

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No offense but that's the stupidest thing I've ever read. Words are just that - words, and frankly it's easy for someone to open their mouths and claim to love you but not mean it - but to actually put in the work day in day out of being there for someone and looking after them, that is not easy, and a lot of times, it's not fun or particularly pleasant either - and people only do that if they truly love someone. My mother was always there and she literally devoted her entire life to her kids, at the expense of her own dreams and personal happiness.

So yeah, I know my mother loved me. She didn't have to take me aside and go into waterworks and clutch me dramatically. For me love is in the practical and the real, whether you're there for someone and put in the work on a daily basis. Now, if that's not sentimental and touchy-feely enough for you, that's your issue not mine.

None of us had a problem with our mom and we're all grateful she belonged to us and every last one of us speaks highly of her. Will you be able to say for sure that your kids will do the same? Don't worry about my mother, she did her job and did it well. She may not have given us love in a way you like but really it's not about you.

If you think love is Hallmark cards and Theo-moments, go for it. But to say that because someone else expresses their love differently, means they were a crappy parent, is inherently offensive and says a load about your character as a human being...which does make me wonder how good of a mother you can even be to your own children. Worry about that instead of slamming my dead mom, eh? Say what you want about her, but she was never online attacking strangers - she was too busy actually being a parent. And I think all kids would prefer to have a parent that was actually present with them in a real way instead of telling them they love them a couple times, planting a kiss on their cheek, then hopping on the internet.

And to even associate not being outwardly emotionally demonstrative, with serial killing would get you laughed out of any intelligent discussion of the subject with any criminal psychologist worth their weight in poo. There's a difference between playing it close to the chest and outright sociopathy, where you don't have a conscience whatsoever and are completely incapable of feeling any real love or empathy for another person. I don't know where you got your education from but five bucks says the address is on a matchbook in some stripper joint.

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Ok, I'll focus on the actions!! She od'd 2 years ago because SHE chose not to accompany me and my Dad on a weekend getaway saying she was busy with laundry.........ummm....drinks every night and has been since I was little....blamed ME for being abused by my Father....what else....surely something I miss....oh, she despises every man I meet because they "must be pigs".

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posted May 07, 2013 04:20 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Is it bad that I feel like celebrating with a drink or three??

I turn 37 this year btw.

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Sorry to hear that.
Maybe this is the start of a warmer relationship between you. I really hope so. You deserve it!

posted May 07, 2013 04:24 AM            

I know I said I wasnīt going to read your posts because they are too harsh and cold, but I would just like to say that it seems like you didnīt have a very loving enviroment growing up. I know that feeling.

I do wish you stop spreading the negativity. I know you donīt mean to, but it does make people uncomfortable.

I hope you find alot of love and happyness and start spreading the love instead.

And if you donīt have children but you wish to, some day, I hope you do - and that you tell them how much you love them every day, because every child deserves to hear that all the time, weather they have acknowledged that need or not. Stay well.

posted May 07, 2013 07:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Chirp:

No offense but that's the stupidest thing I've ever read. Words are just that - words, and frankly it's easy for someone to open their mouths and claim to love you but not mean it - but to actually put in the work day in day out of being there for someone and looking after them, that is not easy, and a lot of times, it's not fun or particularly pleasant either - and people only do that if they truly love someone. My mother was always there and she literally devoted her entire life to her kids, at the expense of her own dreams and personal happiness.

So yeah, I know my mother loved me. She didn't have to take me aside and go into waterworks and clutch me dramatically. For me love is in the practical and the real, whether you're there for someone and put in the work on a daily basis. Now, if that's not sentimental and touchy-feely enough for you, that's your issue not mine.

None of us had a problem with our mom and we're all grateful she belonged to us and every last one of us speaks highly of her. Will you be able to say for sure that your kids will do the same? Don't worry about my mother, she did her job and did it well. She may not have given us love in a way you like but really it's not about you.

If you think love is Hallmark cards and Theo-moments, go for it. But to say that because someone else expresses their love differently, means they were a crappy parent, is inherently offensive and says a load about your character as a human being...which does make me wonder how good of a mother you can even be to your own children. Worry about that instead of slamming my dead mom, eh? Say what you want about her, but she was never online attacking strangers - she was too busy actually being a parent. And I think all kids would prefer to have a parent that was actually present with them in a real way instead of telling them they love them a couple times, planting a kiss on their cheek, then hopping on the internet.

And to even associate not being outwardly emotionally demonstrative, with serial killing would get you laughed out of any intelligent discussion of the subject with any criminal psychologist worth their weight in poo. There's a difference between playing it close to the chest and outright sociopathy, where you don't have a conscience whatsoever and are completely incapable of feeling any real love or empathy for another person. I don't know where you got your education from but five bucks says the address is on a matchbook in some stripper joint.

[QUOTE]Ok, I'll focus on the actions!! She od'd 2 years ago because SHE chose not to accompany me and my Dad on a weekend getaway saying she was busy with laundry.........ummm....drinks every night and has been since I was little....blamed ME for being abused by my Father....what else....surely something I miss....oh, she despises every man I meet because they "must be pigs".

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I've gotta agree with you on the abuse thing, but the last thing sounds more like she was trying to be protective of you and went overboard with it - which, is an act of love. The first thing I'm not going to hold against her because everybody has issues. Having an addiction doesn't mean she didn't love you, it means she was sick, and frankly most people that are heavily addicted to something aren't really in their right mind so they can't really be there for the people that are around them, as much as they should be, and they f**k up alot.[/QUOTE]

Oh Dear, you do sound like you have lot of anger inside of you.

posted May 07, 2013 09:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Oh Dear, you do sound like you have lot of anger inside of you.

Who is online attacking strangers???

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She is in denial. She also might have some mental problems.
She is anti-social, per her words, and being nice to other people gives her headache, per her words again.
It's a pity to watch someone being so screwed up.

What she needs is a long therapy with a shrink to get over the fact that she was unloved as a child and that it is okay to be nice to other people and show them love. It's a vicious circle - "If I didn't receive any love as a kid, why would i give back love to other people now."
Some get over it, some people just live in denial and become bitter. "It's not me, it's them"