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4lifephrases
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posted May 09, 2013 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been thinking lately about how it is difficult to be a Scorpio.

The most thing I find difficult is.
1) We feel everything so deeply.
2) We worry about other people's problems.
3) We get people dependent on us at times even without us knowing when did that happen! When we try to do our own stuff people expect us as accommodating as before.
4) We never want to disappoint or hurt anyone but no matter what we do we end up doing it.
5) We pretend most of the time to be something other than ourselves and our afraid that if people really knew us then they would never love us.
6) We try to please everyone and we can't please anyone. Even though we know there would be people who will hate us but we still try that they might love us.
7) We love so much others that it consumes us and we barely have time to love ourselves.
8) Some people respect us only until they are in illusion of our goodness, most people run away at very first ounce of our deep rebellious nature.
9) Despite all we good do and sacrifices we make, our sign would be considered to be mean, power hungry ,etc and no matter of how much explaining would cut it.
10)We follow our intuition, we do most irrational things and at times during this time we are not supported but at times hated, ignored and named selfish.

I am still learning many things so if you disagree with me then it is only probably I am still learning.

Yes, there might be genuine mean and horrible Scorpios and I am sorry for that but I am sure Scorpio must have taught you lesson to be better person and unfortunately it is tough job and hurtful for them as well.

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anonymidarkness
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posted May 09, 2013 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You’re playing the victim card.

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doommlord
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posted May 09, 2013 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it just me or there are too many scorpio threads recently....

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anonymidarkness
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posted May 09, 2013 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^Scorpio threads are evergreen, maybe that lunar eclipse liberated them.

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I wouldn't want to switch my Sun Sign to Scorpio because I've already witness the damage and sufferring too much IRL.

Leo yes, but Scorpio?At best an Ascendant, not a Double Scorpio.

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posted May 09, 2013 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MorteImperator:
I wouldn't want to switch my Sun Sign to Scorpio because I've already witness the damage and sufferring too much IRL.

Leo yes, but Scorpio?At best an Ascendant, not a Double Scorpio.


I know several double scorpios and they are not bad people.

I know some scorpios have horrible attitudes but it should not be thrown on the rest of them.

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Maelstrom
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posted May 09, 2013 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maelstrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
4Life,

I am not a Scorpio and I really really dont want to type the phrase "scorpio dominant" (whoops I just did!) because that has to be the most overused/overplayed/tired phrase in LL at the moment...HOWEVER I do happen to have it as my second dominant (and again! ) sign.

When I first read your post, my immediate thoughts were how Piscean it sounded, particularly the first 6 or so points. So I am unsure if this is the perils of being a Scorpio, or of actually being a water sign and/or water dominant (SORRY!!!!) person in general....

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Kerosene
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posted May 09, 2013 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woe is you...

I assume saturn in scorpio is stomping on your plutonic egos right now.

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Maelstrom
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posted May 09, 2013 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maelstrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Woe is you...

I assume saturn in scorpio is stomping on your plutonic egos right now.


Bitchy, bitchy

Plutonic egos my arse.

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Kerosene
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posted May 09, 2013 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not even talking to you.
I did not even read your post lmao..
Everyone has an ego, yes even scorpios lol.

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Maelstrom
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posted May 09, 2013 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maelstrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OP, there's nothing wrong with your post, it's legit and it isn't self-pitying.

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Maelstrom
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posted May 09, 2013 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maelstrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I'm not even talking to you.
I did not even read your post lmao..
Everyone has an ego, yes even scorpios lol.

Maybe but it was still a bitchy thing to say, I cant see anything wrong with 4Life's post, if I'm in the minority so be it.

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somethingexcellent
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posted May 09, 2013 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Kerosene: I assume saturn in scorpio is stomping on your plutonic egos right now.

Mine has been pretty good, speaking as one Plutonic person. I have experienced set backs a lot recently, but taking it in stride makes it supah bearable because...I know that if I'm patient with all the changes going on right now, things will get better! For example...we are literally staying in our country house while our new house, that we bought, is being renovated. Now, this obviously presents many challenges seeing as how we don't have electricity out here, and only one vehicle.

A set back, but worth it!

Any ways, the pitfall of being a Scorpio is taking things too personally. I do not mean this as an attack on anyone! But Scorpio always wants to make things better or feel like they can be better, and this can lead to many things from being depressed and feeling worn out to taking on too many stresses and assuming the victim role. Often times, Scorpio's life is struggle first, then golden pastures later. If they can navigate the struggles. And, no one is too lost to be found - if a Scorpio has a strong support network to help them through, they can become great phoenixes.

Take it from me.

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Kerosene
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posted May 09, 2013 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Any ways, the pitfall of being a Scorpio is taking things too personally. I do not mean this as an attack on anyone! But Scorpio always wants to make things better or feel like they can be better, and this can lead to many things from being depressed and feeling worn out to taking on too many stresses and assuming the victim role. Often times, Scorpio's life is struggle first, then golden pastures later. If they can navigate the struggles. And, no one is too lost to be found - if a Scorpio has a strong support network to help them through, they can become great phoenixes.

Take it from me.


Trueeee!
I think everyone signs has their struggles they most deal with. To me scorpio isn't this big bad wolf man thats out to get you. I've known plenty of decent and well adjusted scorpios! I think you're a good example, especially having so much scorpio in you. I just think of you as a libra thou haha.

I just don't like threads about I'M A SCORPIO, LOOK AT ALL THE CRAP I HAVE TO DEAL WITH, SEE HOW THE ODDS ARE AGAINST ME. ITS NOT MY FAULT! BLAME MY SCORPIONESS!

Anyways I'm not directing this at you or your post OP, don't take it personally.
I just feel being a Scorpio or Capricorn isn't terrible or a burden, everyone has a choice in life. You can be a decent person or a complete piece of **** .

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Maelstrom
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posted May 09, 2013 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maelstrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kerosene,

I realise I took your post out of context - as a metaphor. I took "Plutonic egos" to mean "Huge or massive egos".

And I agree, we all have egos!!

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PixieJane
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posted May 09, 2013 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 4lifephrases:
Yes, there might be genuine mean and horrible Scorpios and I am sorry for that but I am sure Scorpio must have taught you lesson to be better person and unfortunately it is tough job and hurtful for them as well.

I expect the reverse is true (or at least just as true) as well.

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lovemeruby
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posted May 10, 2013 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovemeruby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes the eclipse has everything to do with this scorpio thing, they all just came out of the woodwork LOL!
Life is hard for a lot of people right now, I totally understand why you feel like that. Patience is something that must need to be learned on a bigger scale than all of our lives right now. Scorpios are always there for everyone, bot often forget to look up and see all that are there for then. Like your fellow crabs

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lovemeruby
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Yes the eclipse has everything to do with this scorpio thing, they all just came out of the woodwork LOL!
Life is hard for a lot of people right now, I totally understand why you feel like that. Patience is something that must need to be learned on a bigger scale than all of our lives right now. Scorpios are always there for everyone, bot often forget to look up and see all that are there for then. Like your fellow crabs

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its_aqua
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posted May 10, 2013 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:

I just feel being a Scorpio or Capricorn isn't terrible or a burden, everyone has a choice in life. You can be a decent person or a complete piece of **** .

Thats so true. I'm Capricorn and Scorpio dominant, it's tough but of course everyone can make their own choices.

But I do feel like we take some things more heavily than other people.

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4lifephrases
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posted May 14, 2013 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
You’re playing the victim card.

No, I am being honest and you are ignoring it because it is making you uncomfortable.That's fine. I am not sure what is your sign.

It is bit like when some handicap is walking on the road and we all try to ignore it or do not know what to do about it.

Most people ignore what is negative or wrong in their life. There are problems in the life. The last person to stick around and say "**** ! this is a problem a big problem " is a Scorpio. I am afraid I do not know your sign. Scorpio themselves do not empathize with most of their problems. If there is a genuine problem and limitations in Scorpio behavior I do not see why we shouldn't look at it.

This wasn't self pity thing or victim card.
I am not suggesting for behavior "oh I am a Scorpio so it is hard and thus I can get away everything wrong". Scorpions are most responsible of the sign. They would think twice and cut once. I do not understand Why people just want to hate us and want us to be scapegoat ????

Where is empathy ???? Why other fail to be empathetic to Scorpions? when any other sign fail everybody is like oh poor you or what not but when Scorpio is having hard time nobody wants to know and then everybody wonders why Scorpio has to be powerful all the time. I think we Scorpions fail to empathize our own self too. I understand empathy is hard and would make you feel limited as well.
If you can't feel what we are feeling you might as well not judge it and listen. Just be there and if you can't just bloody ignore it.

I just know it is hard. It isn't about ego or saturn kicking our butt. I am more aware of my nature and I am sharing.

I have put myself vulnerable many times as I believe people in linda land are loving and understanding folks in general.I believe in goodness in people here. I will be continue doing that, but in real life if this is how you are to normal Scorpions. No Scorpio would open up to you and then you wonder why they are secretive??? We are tired of being therapist. Thus once again it is proved that people can't stand it when somebody is being honest.

It isn't easy being Scorpio, try to empathize and listen. If you can't empathize because you haven't had same experience,fine I suppose you all can learn it as a secondhand experience. That was the only message I had to give. You can judge it as you want. Thanks !

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posted May 14, 2013 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:

Any ways, the pitfall of being a Scorpio is taking things too personally. I do not mean this as an attack on anyone! But Scorpio always wants to make things better or feel like they can be better, and this can lead to many things from being depressed and feeling worn out to taking on too many stresses and assuming the victim role. Often times, Scorpio's life is struggle first, then golden pastures later. If they can navigate the struggles. And, no one is too lost to be found - if a Scorpio has a strong support network to help them through, they can become great phoenixes.

Take it from me.


If people would love us the way we are, we wouldn't have to. The deepest fear is to any Scorpio is if you knew us you wouldn't love us.So what you are getting is not an authentic version of ourselves but cheaper version of us.

Ofcourse we have to go through transformation through our journey. We like excitement in our life and we are born to do great things in our life.We judge ourselves all the time and not lovingly and it would help others to be at least loving and not as much as judgmental about everything we do.
Sometimes things are just simple and not as complicated as people expect it to be. It is hard to be all powerful Scorpio and if anything Saturn has taught me is that it is ok to know that limitation. If I had ego last thing I was doing is writing this post.

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posted May 14, 2013 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 4lifephrases:

Most people ignore what is negative or wrong in their life. There are problems in the life. The last person to stick around and say "**** ! this is a problem a big problem " is a Scorpio.!


Interestingly, I seems to the reverse of this. So laid back, and tolerant that that has me worried!! (OK, I do worry). So there goes another asumption about key Scorpio behaviour. One thing which sets me apart is that I like my own company, can't to be around people for too long. I find it dull and tiring, so prefer company is short bursts.

Me - Scorpio Sun, Pluto in 1st, conjunct Jupiter which expands it even more. Some offsetting by Leo Asc.

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posted May 14, 2013 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 4lifephrases:
No, I am being honest and you are ignoring it because it is making you uncomfortable.That's fine. I am not sure what is your sign.

It is bit like when some handicap is walking on the road and we all try to ignore it or do not know what to do about it.

Most people ignore what is negative or wrong in their life. There are problems in the life. The last person to stick around and say "**** ! this is a problem a big problem " is a Scorpio. I am afraid I do not know your sign. Scorpio themselves do not empathize with most of their problems. If there is a genuine problem and limitations in Scorpio behavior I do not see why we shouldn't look at it.

This wasn't self pity thing or victim card.
I am not suggesting for behavior "oh I am a Scorpio so it is hard and thus I can get away everything wrong". Scorpions are most responsible of the sign. They would think twice and cut once. I do not understand Why people just want to hate us and want us to be scapegoat ????

Where is empathy ???? Why other fail to be empathetic to Scorpions? when any other sign fail everybody is like oh poor you or what not but when Scorpio is having hard time nobody wants to know and then everybody wonders why Scorpio has to be powerful all the time. I think we Scorpions fail to empathize our own self too. I understand empathy is hard and would make you feel limited as well.
If you can't feel what we are feeling you might as well not judge it and listen. Just be there and if you can't just bloody ignore it.

I just know it is hard. It isn't about ego or saturn kicking our butt. I am more aware of my nature and I am sharing.

I have put myself vulnerable many times as I believe people in linda land are loving and understanding folks in general.I believe in goodness in people here. I will be continue doing that, but in real life if this is how you are to normal Scorpions. No Scorpio would open up to you and then you wonder why they are secretive??? We are tired of being therapist. Thus once again it is proved that people can't stand it when somebody is being honest.

It isn't easy being Scorpio, try to empathize and listen. If you can't empathize because you haven't had same experience,fine I suppose you all can learn it as a secondhand experience. That was the only message I had to give. You can judge it as you want. Thanks !



You don't make me feel uncomfortable at all.I am a Pisces with Scorpio as my dominant sign and Pluto as my dominant planet. People don't want to use Scorpio as scapegoat and I am pretty sure they don't hate Scorpios as well. Lot of people want to be Scorpio, you can see few examples in this board as well.

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I am sure Scorpio must have taught you lesson to be better person and unfortunately it is tough job and hurtful for them as well."

Each sign can teach us to be a better person. You are saying it is a TOUGH job to be a Scorpio, calling yourself a handicap,asking for empathy and then you are saying that you are not playing the victim card.

I did not say this because I hate Scorpios, I love them.

"If you can't feel what we are feeling you might as well not judge it and listen. Just be there and if you can't just bloody ignore it. "

I can feel very well what scorpios can feel, trust me on that.

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4lifephrases
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posted May 14, 2013 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asking for empathy I do not think is being victim. It is bravest thing for Scorpions to do as they hardly ask for it. That's the difference. They themselves don't know when they need help or empathy. As a Pisces it might be and I do not know about that.
If Pisces are tired of being empathetic I can understand that too. (THIS IS CALLED EMPATHY!)

I do think there has been ongoing trend about Pisces getting fed up of listening.

I am sure there are lots of people who teach me many things and I appreciate your point of view too and thus I am not offended but I do not think asking empathy is being victim at all.

If you do think asking empathy is being victim then what do you suggest? So we are weak now by saying that there is a problem, that we can't do it all. You have got to be kidding me!

There is a difference when somebody is saying it once and starting to solve problems and somebody who just decides to live in their own problem.

anonymidarkness : I do not know your personal situation or problems thus I am best not to judge you.

I just shared my personal opinion and you can judge it the way you want to.

When I wrote this post I didn't ask for anything personally. A little bit of respect for sign, and other Scorpio members on Linda land or clarity on my experience. Sure ! but that's where it ends.

If there has been any love or hate then that has been duly noted (mostly love though).
I am glad to share my experience and point of views on Lindaland.

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posted May 14, 2013 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astro keen:
Interestingly, I seems to the reverse of this. So laid back, and tolerant that that has me worried!! (OK, I do worry). So there goes another asumption about key Scorpio behaviour. One thing which sets me apart is that I like my own company, can't to be around people for too long. I find it dull and tiring, so prefer company is short bursts.

Me - Scorpio Sun, Pluto in 1st, conjunct Jupiter which expands it even more. Some offsetting by Leo Asc.


Astro keen: How is Saturn in 4th for you?
Did you do lots of fun stuff 3rd house stuff communicating last 2 years ?

I have been worrying too but I realize that is only because I am not doing work which needs to be done. I know I need to.

See you already know the problem. We just need to do the work. Saturn couldn't have come at better time. I am assuming you want to spend more time with people,preferably long term?

The question to that you might be unsure whether you want to be with people or not?
Have you made up your mind on what kind of relationships you want, how much time you want to spend with them , I would even suggest scheduling it? One thing I have learned is that we are interdependent, even though we think we can be independent. If you balance it I think it should be ok.

Lately I have been oscillating back and forth about few things.I guess Jupiter in Gemini. It is not only making decision but really sticking to it?
Do you want people in your life or not?
What is holding you back?

If I may suggest do you think it might be cultural thing as well. I notice you are in the UK.I found it was easier to meet people for some activities or in some groups. There has been lately lots of Spiritual things on meetup as well which might be more interesting for you rather than just meeting people to socialize.

I am assuming you have either taken up the idea that you are not good with people to your heart. Self limiting belief perhaps.

I learn recently to make a decision and stick to it but it is getting bit difficult with all the distractions. I know I have to do work.

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