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12thhouser
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posted May 17, 2013 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the pattern (which aren't set in stone if enough people can break the pattern):

Every person I've known who has Libra rising is--one way or another--completely full of themselves, drawing attention to themselves, or their actions, how great they are, "look at what I've done for others," etc.

I've spoken before to a friend of mine into astrology and mentioned that in passing. She smiled and nodded her head. I was expecting to hear some counter-argument from her to clarify things, but she actually agreed.

No, if you have Libra rising, you may not (or who knows, you may) see this in yourself, but I'd still appreciate feedback, but I'm very curious to read the feedback from those who've known other Libra-risers.

My brother is a Libra riser, and although I've tried to give him benefit of the doubt, the pattern has shown up again and again.

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posted May 17, 2013 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sister's a Libra riser.I guess in a way.She's very funny,she'll make herself look dumb for a laugh.So she's not a stuck up person.But I tried to get her into numerology and she didn't agree with it cause of one bad thing it said about her.So she's very defensive and doesn't like to see her faults.But she's only 18,maybe that'll change.

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posted May 17, 2013 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemmy:
My sister's a Libra riser.I guess in a way.She's very funny,she'll make herself look dumb for a laugh.So she's not a stuck up person.But I tried to get her into numerology and she didn't agree with it cause of one bad thing it said about her.So she's very defensive and doesn't like to see her faults.But she's only 18,maybe that'll change.

Thanks for responding. Well, I didn't say Libra-risers are stuck up, just full of themselves. The rest of what you wrote seems to the the patterns I've noticed, too.

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posted May 17, 2013 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Here's the pattern (which aren't set in stone if enough people can break the pattern):

Every person I've known who has Libra rising is--one way or another--completely full of themselves, drawing attention to themselves, or their actions, how great they are, "look at what I've done for others," etc.


I've encountered people like this, but they weren't necessarily Libra rising -- other signs can be this way too -- but I notice it a lot more in teens/20s, especially when looking/hoping to establish a relationship. I think it has much more to do with age/where a person is at in life. Most people outgrow it eventually.

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posted May 17, 2013 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
I've encountered people like this, but they weren't necessarily Libra rising -- other signs can be this way too -- but I notice it a lot more in teens/20s, especially when looking/hoping to establish a relationship. I think it has much more to do with age/where a person is at in life. Most people outgrow it eventually.

Okay, but I guess what I'm saying is that every Libra riser I've met so far is like this. Other signs may be like this, but every Libra riser has been this way (whom I've met). Thanks for responding, though.

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posted May 17, 2013 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShyVirgo1979     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an ex bf from a few yrs ago that was a libra rising and ya he could be full of himself at times. I always thought it was his venus in leo wanting to ruffle its feathers lol . He was ok but I really got sick of hearing how he did this and this and this for his ex wife who dumped him. He tried to impress me by bragging about how he could do ballroom dancing...ok that's great and all but that doesn't impress me cuz that's not my type lol Can't tell him he's wrong. But then again he was a virgo. I don't speak to him anymore bc he just rubs me the wrong way. Nice guy just ticks me off at times. Just my 2 cents. Not saying all libra risers are like that.

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posted May 17, 2013 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Okay, but I guess what I'm saying is that every Libra riser I've met so far is like this. Other signs may be like this, but every Libra riser has been this way (whom I've met). Thanks for responding, though.

Maybe you notice this trait in all of them because it's a trait you yourself possesses?

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posted May 17, 2013 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra can be a tough ascendant, like Virgo or Scorpio, sometimes. My favorite ascendant is Pisces. They are usually very down to earth.

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posted May 17, 2013 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Maybe you notice this trait in all of them because it's a trait you yourself possesses?

Except I've given them benefit of the doubt (at least in my brother's case), but these patterns still show up. Others responding have pointed out similar experiences, so it's not just me.

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posted May 17, 2013 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
My favorite ascendant is Pisces. They are usually very down to earth.

Not sure I've ever been described as down to earth. Then again, not all Pisces ascendants are the same. lol

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posted May 17, 2013 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Not sure I've ever been described as down to earth. Then again, not all Pisces ascendants are the same. lol

You're right! Some are just like Libra!

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posted May 17, 2013 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
You're right! Some are just like Libra!

lol nice try

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posted May 17, 2013 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aqua86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
has nothing to do with astrology..

Men can choose wheter they be humble or more attention seeking..

But be carefull for those who seek attention, for if it doesn't come to you, then u will slowly die and feel neglected and lonely..

But she who was humble surpassed her a long time ago...for beneath the surface..

1 shall be rich, and the other empty
1 shall be bitter and the other happy
1 shall be true and the other fake

For such things has always been since the beginning of men and so shall it be at the end.

Choose ur destiny, for this is the world of freedom, but beware, freedom comes with responsibility.

and the outcome is not to be decided by 1 human being, surely this shall not be the case, for they are just like leafs, carried by the winds..but what wind direction shall they take?

Wind of righteousness and truth, or corruption and deceit.

1 shall bring them to the depths of sadness, the other to the heights of happiness.

Plz focus on own life.. ty

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posted May 17, 2013 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious how many who feel the need to defend Libra risers so much either have Libra rising themselves or know someone they like who does.

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posted May 17, 2013 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All this fuss over a pair of scales? Libra can be a boring ascendant to have unless you are someone who made history, or will make it. Hitler, for example.

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posted May 17, 2013 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
All this fuss over a pair of scales?

Yes, it can be a weighty issue. lol

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posted May 17, 2013 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can read about the sign Libra for five minutes and fall asleep. With Pisces I can read all night and never a dull moment. Pisces ascendant is much MUCH more fascinating imo.

But, apparently you have this interest in the scales for some reason...

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posted May 17, 2013 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe because leo is in 11th house of relationships? just a guess.
#takecare

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posted May 17, 2013 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I can read about the sign Libra for five minutes and fall asleep. With Pisces I can read all night and never a dull moment. Pisces ascendant is much MUCH more fascinating imo.

But, apparently you have this interest in the scales for some reason...


Well, like I said, it's simply a pattern I've noticed. And like the thread's title, I'm hoping to break free from seeing this pattern in others who turn out to have Libra rising.

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posted May 17, 2013 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
maybe because leo is in 11th house of relationships? just a guess.
#takecare


That's the only interesting thing about Libra Ascendant, the opposites and it's not always the case. Sometimes signs are intercepted, etc. The ego conflict is a bit interesting, but that's about it. What else can be done with concepts like war and peace? You can sit there and dream about it but in reality, people like to fight more than they have a desire to get along.

With Pisces, everyone gets along! Perfect!

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posted May 17, 2013 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Well, like I said, it's simply a pattern I've noticed. And like the thread's title, I'm hoping to break free from seeing this pattern in others who turn out to have Libra rising.

The only pattern I see in Libra is a certain blandness, lol.

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posted May 18, 2013 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Okay, but I guess what I'm saying is that every Libra riser I've met so far is like this. Other signs may be like this, but every Libra riser has been this way (whom I've met).

So how large is your sampling? What age range are represented? What kinds of relationships are you talking about (other than your brother which might be caused by other things in his natal or in your synastry with him)? If the other Libra risings of your experience were all S.O.s or "open enemies" or even business partners, that might be explained by the Aries rulership of the DES for a Libra Rising. Someone already mentioned the likelyhood of Leo on the 11th, so it could often be that as well. But even in these instances, the placement of their Mars or Sun would modify how they approach those relationships and the placement of Venus by sign and by house would influence how they present themselves in general.

Frankly, this is the first I've heard of this "tendency" for a Libra rising. You say others responding have noticed the same thing, but one already mentioned that he had his Venus in Leo, so that would make sense in that instance. Another mentioned her sister is only 18. Perhaps the friend that agreed with you have the same circle of friends/acquaintences/co-workers and that would also explain her agreement since you'd basically have been observing the same people.

I really think you need to look further or at least give us some more information to go on. How many are we talking about here? Four? A dozen? A hundred? With only 12 possibilities and 7 billion people in the world, I don't think you've got enough to go on to re-write the general understanding of Libra on the Ascendent.

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posted May 18, 2013 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pfft, whenever your brother gets to be too much to bear, just remind him he shares his ascendant with Hitler. Hopefully that will tone him down, especially if he starts yelling like a madman :S

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posted May 18, 2013 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
I really think you need to look further or at least give us some more information to go on. How many are we talking about here? Four? A dozen? A hundred? With only 12 possibilities and 7 billion people in the world, I don't think you've got enough to go on to re-write the general understanding of Libra on the Ascendent.

I'm not looking to re-write the general understanding. I mentioned one not-so-positive trait, and others get bent out of shape. lol What's interesting is that (above) Gemmy said her sister (a Libra riser) dismissed numerology because it said one negative thing about her. Granted, I don't know her sister, but I wonder if that's another tell-tale sign of Libra risers: if you're not heaping praise on them every second, they'll dismiss you, too. lol

There are about a dozen Libra risers I know.

But, that part about Leo ruling (or potentially ruling, if it's not intercepted) the 11th could be key there, constantly seeking the attention of friends.

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posted May 18, 2013 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
But, that part about Leo ruling (or potentially ruling, if it's not intercepted) the 11th could be key there, constantly seeking the attention of friends.


And even that would depend on the placement of the Sun by sign and by house. But if you find Libra rising friends so "full of themselves" why do you chose to remain friends? Personally, if I think someone is that immature, I just avoid them, not invite them into my life!

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