posted May 24, 2013 01:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Pure:
How can the power of Pluto be used positively?

Pluto is prominent in my chart (conjunct AC and sextile MC so there's no hiding it!) and it's recently (as of 10 minutes ago) been brought to my attention that I've sometimes I can channel the negative qualities of that planet strongly; Or if I'm not using those qualities then they're being used against me by others. It's never been my intention to hurt people so I want to change. How can I become a more positive Plutonian?

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posted May 24, 2013 02:44 PM            

With Pluto on the ASC, the need for change and catharsis is even more powerful and relates to the self - you may feel like changing the way you look or come across very often, or more importantly, feel like you need to change within - heal yourself, become better, stronger, and so on.

So, working on yourself is very important.
You can check the other aspects Pluto makes and work on those issues as well, and exploit their potential.

posted May 24, 2013 03:48 PM            

That's significant, but not in a big way.
Flowing aspects aren't as noticeable as hard aspects, so while the energy is present, it's easy-flowing and not as insistent or in your face.

posted May 24, 2013 04:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Twirl,

That's significant, but not in a big way.
Flowing aspects aren't as noticeable as hard aspects, so while the energy is present, it's easy-flowing and not as insistent or in your face.

PS. Pluto sextile Neptune is a generational aspect that doesn't bear much significance on a personal level (unless it falls on an axis).

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posted May 24, 2013 04:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I don't know if other Plutonians can relate but I often feel the need to destroy something, in some way. It can be something stupid like deleting posts on social websites, defriending people, erasing some memories written in a journal, burning letters, throwing away hoarded stuff.. or if I can't do that, I just rearrange things (I think that may be because Pluto is in my 6th house) - cleaning my room, tidying clothes, organising things on my computer.. Doing this makes me feel in control, and at the end of the process, I feel like a part of me is purified, clean, set free.

With Pluto on the ASC, the need for change and catharsis is even more powerful and relates to the self - you may feel like changing the way you look or come across very often, or more importantly, feel like you need to change within - heal yourself, become better, stronger, and so on.

So, working on yourself is very important.
You can check the other aspects Pluto makes and work on those issues as well, and exploit their potential.

If Pluto sextiles your MC, you can apply your gained knowledge about yourself to help people understand themselves better or deal with some situations in their lives.

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well i relate and too at times start deleting/braking contacts with people i dont really know/ throw papers away/deleting users

so i dont really think its the 6th house as my pluto is in the 10th

posted May 24, 2013 05:30 PM            

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Uranus
Venus
Sun
Neptune
Mercury
and it's headed toward my MC

It also plays a big part in my Natal chart. Needless to say I have experienced my share of Pluto lessons and have grown familiar with the positive applications.

Pluto is a crucible, it burns away excess, cuts a situation down to its basic elements, and liquefies the situation (removing any resistance to the truth). At first Pluto lessons are about getting beat the hell down until your options are to accept the truth, or die. After some time, Pluto lessons are about knowing when to look deeply at something and know it's roots are in line with your truth (whether you want to accept it or not). In the end Pluto becomes a great intuitive tool for knowing when something is in line with our essential truth. It helps us automatically identify and avoid situations which pull us away from our honest self and therefor transforms us from the form we assume through upbringing, into the form by which we entered this world. In summary, Pluto is a process of transformation through acceptance (regardless of how hard it is to accept).

Once one has embraced their Pluto, we can use it to not only see the truth at the root of their self, but the hidden intentions of others. Pluto is x-ray vision, the universal voyeur, it looks past what is presented on the surface and uncovers whatever beautiful or emaciated forms are stowed behind the curtain.

posted May 24, 2013 06:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Pure:
How can I become a more positive Plutonian?

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I have Mars conj. Pluto and I have the negative traits associated with being strong-willed (controlling, have to get my way, etc.).

For me, I can tone it down on a case by case basis for people I deem worthy. I know that sounds *really* snobby, but it's true. I won't lie. Some people in my life are simply too important to lose, so I try to be more gentle with them.

Everyone else can love me this way or **** off. That's how I operate. Very few have stuck by me and I don't blame them... I can be a beast. But in my opinion, the remaining people are the best of the best so I'm not unhappy or sad about it.

posted May 24, 2013 06:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I don't know if other Plutonians can relate but I often feel the need to destroy something, in some way. It can be something stupid like deleting posts on social websites, defriending people, erasing some memories written in a journal, burning letters, throwing away hoarded stuff.. or if I can't do that, I just rearrange things (I think that may be because Pluto is in my 6th house) - cleaning my room, tidying clothes, organising things on my computer.. Doing this makes me feel in control, and at the end of the process, I feel like a part of me is purified, clean, set free.

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I feel that way toooo. You took my thoughts out of my head.
I chopped my hair off one time because, I dont even remember why, i just felt like it. Like i needed something drastic to feel changed.
Maybe getting rid of things is cathartic for a lot of people since its a physical manifestation of change. People like having that instant gratification feeling and throwing away things does that.
Even if its like getting rid of people. I've gotten rid of people. I relished slicing people out of my life. I longed for something new. Like I couldn't move on unless they were OUT. And some didn't even do anything "wrong" to me. I just felt heldback. I wouldn't reccommend it though. It has a lot of draw backs haha.

posted May 24, 2013 06:47 PM            

I'll just add my own 2 cents.

In regards to the highest truth, it's also about questioning your own motives. When Pluto power is used to destroy, recreate or transform any life situation, it has to be for the highest good. Because Pluto usually comes in forms that we're unaware of, some exhibit it in personal relationships while others only show the traits in work relationships when relating to subordinates or people deemed to have less 'power'.

Pluto itself is like the Hindu God Shiva - the destroyer - it's a planetary and psychological archetype. We do not own it's power and therefore when we believe we do, all attempts at the usage of power tends to be destructive and selfishly used to reinforce the individual persons ego. Only when the ego is bypassed and Pluto's power is used for the greater good will others usually recognize that because they intuitively understand the archetype itself.

posted May 24, 2013 06:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I don't know if other Plutonians can relate but I often feel the need to destroy something, in some way. It can be something stupid like deleting posts on social websites, defriending people, erasing some memories written in a journal, burning letters, throwing away hoarded stuff.. or if I can't do that, I just rearrange things (I think that may be because Pluto is in my 6th house) - cleaning my room, tidying clothes, organising things on my computer.. Doing this makes me feel in control, and at the end of the process, I feel like a part of me is purified, clean, set free.

With Pluto on the ASC, the need for change and catharsis is even more powerful and relates to the self - you may feel like changing the way you look or come across very often, or more importantly, feel like you need to change within - heal yourself, become better, stronger, and so on.
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posted May 24, 2013 07:15 PM            

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Originally posted by SDragon:
So to answer the original question, you can try to do a lot of soul searching to determine in what positions of power those negative aspects appear and what stimuli might have triggered it. The more awareness and consciousness we shine on our internal mechanism, the less ability other people will have to trigger it unconscionably.

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Also very well explained; the above part especially. I agree we never possess or control Pluto, however I do believe we can utilize the insights available from a Plutonian perspective to our spiritual benefit.

posted May 24, 2013 08:30 PM            

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Originally posted by L0veLess:
I feel that way toooo. You took my thoughts out of my head.
I chopped my hair off one time because, I dont even remember why, i just felt like it.

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Funny you said this -- I shaved my head once and left it for a few years just because.

posted May 25, 2013 01:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Pure:
How can the power of Pluto be used positively?

Pluto is prominent in my chart (conjunct AC and sextile MC so there's no hiding it!) and it's recently (as of 10 minutes ago) been brought to my attention that I've sometimes I can channel the negative qualities of that planet strongly; Or if I'm not using those qualities then they're being used against me by others. It's never been my intention to hurt people so I want to change. How can I become a more positive Plutonian?

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i am sort of heavy pluto. i can say i try to always remember through understanding. my view is, energy is all in sync and you will put in yourself what you put out.

posted May 25, 2013 02:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
Funny you said this -- I shaved my head once and left it for a few years just because.

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posted May 25, 2013 07:09 AM            

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Originally posted by L0veLess:
I chopped my hair off one time because, I dont even remember why, i just felt like it.

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Ha, I once did that, too.. except that I know why I did it - I was angry and needed to do something crazy.. ahem.

Geeky,

posted May 25, 2013 02:24 PM            

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Wow, that's very cool, I don't think I could shave my head but it suits you very well! I like the montage

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Thanks.

posted May 26, 2013 10:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I don't know if other Plutonians can relate but I often feel the need to destroy something, in some way. It can be something stupid like deleting posts on social websites, defriending people, erasing some memories written in a journal, burning letters, throwing away hoarded stuff.. or if I can't do that, I just rearrange things (I think that may be because Pluto is in my 6th house) - cleaning my room, tidying clothes, organising things on my computer.. Doing this makes me feel in control, and at the end of the process, I feel like a part of me is purified, clean, set free.

With Pluto on the ASC, the need for change and catharsis is even more powerful and relates to the self - you may feel like changing the way you look or come across very often, or more importantly, feel like you need to change within - heal yourself, become better, stronger, and so on.

So, working on yourself is very important.
You can check the other aspects Pluto makes and work on those issues as well, and exploit their potential.

If Pluto sextiles your MC, you can apply your gained knowledge about yourself to help people understand themselves better or deal with some situations in their lives.

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