posted May 29, 2013 06:05 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Ami, what do you think about Saturn opposite Chiron?

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I also have it, 7 degrees orb though. I my case I know it has something to do with karma, because I have Saturn in 12H together with North node.
I yet have to grasp the whole picture of my karmic journey in this life... It's all just so complicated and difficult to put in a practical context, the Virgo in me needs some instructions, step by step

My cancer Chiron is living together with Leo Jupiter and South node in house six. Opposite stands, as mentioned, my beloved Saturn
Oh, and Chiron is also sextile Venus and inconjunct Moon... I know I've got some issues regarding my emotional being, not enough expressive of positive feelings I feel towards others, confused about what I really feel, turbulent, unpredictable and I fear of hurting others, therefore I don't let many people close or just don't let their expectations about me grow high...

About the nodes.. Hm, I am aware of the fact that I have to evolve into a much more spiritual, intuitive, compassionate, feeling person, it seems that this is a journey that is going to be most difficult for me. Chiron isn't making things easier... Or is it? I've read somewhere that 6H Chiron means healing abilities brought from previous lives. And since my MC ruler Jupiter is in 6H house too, I can only guess I should start thinking about heading in this direction regarding my profession.. But Saturn isn't going to make it easy I suppose, I'll have to discipline myself to be more spiritual? is this even possible, isn't that a little paradoxical?

About Chiron being in Cancer... I see that. Wounds regarding family, yes, up until now it hasn't represented a shelter for me, rather a source of stress, a battleground (also Mars in 4H)

posted May 29, 2013 06:23 PM            

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About Chiron being in Cancer... I see that. Wounds regarding family, yes, up until now it hasn't represented a shelter for me, rather a source of stress, a battleground

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Ehhh, I can relate.

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I can only guess I should start thinking about heading in this direction regarding my profession

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posted May 29, 2013 07:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Is your pain with serious relationships like marriage or serious commitments? Which house is it in--6 or 7?

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posted May 29, 2013 07:27 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
It's in house six four degrees from the cusp of the descendant in Aries and it has an exact trine to Venus and is in part of a grand trine with that planet and Neptune. It opposes Mercury/Jupiter/Uranus in Libra on the ascendant in house twelve. I think it means I should use my bad experiences to heal myself and others.

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YES that sounds like mine. I have Chiron trine venus and the ASC in a grand trine and I use my pain for healing of others( and hopefully myself )

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posted May 30, 2013 08:25 AM            

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Originally posted by elixir:
Mine is in my 4th house conjunct my sun. I guess it would be related to my family.

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Mine is too. Was your childhood super painful?

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posted May 30, 2013 08:42 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:

I'd love to be able to heal but I don't think I could charge for something like this. Anyway, first learn to heal and then think about making it your profession Good luck.

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Hehee, nooo, I'm not thinking about becoming a healer or something similar, I don't have the gift and I don't believe it's something you can be taught I was referring more to some kind of personal help, such as a therapist, school counselor or perhaps working in disciplinary institutions, adult education in prisons, retirement homes... It's what I'm schooling for
"Healing" with listening, advising, transmitting knowledge, experiences...

posted May 30, 2013 09:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Mine is too. Was your childhood super painful?

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posted May 30, 2013 09:26 AM            

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Originally posted by elixir:
Yes, my dad was gone most of it, and I felt abandoned. The situation at home with my mom and siblings was ridiculous and I can't believe I had to live through that. Lots of psychological abuse and some violence.

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Me, too. Chiron in the 4th is classic for huge pain in childhood. I have people riding me all the time that I should be over it, but I am not. That sparked me to do the Chiron thread because I live with this wound hurting me almost all the time and no matter how hard I try, it does not seem far away from me. Can you relate?

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posted May 30, 2013 10:55 AM            

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Originally posted by elixir:
Yes, I do feel like it sort of follows me around everywhere lol...and it feels like a hole in the heart. Does the chiron wound ever go away? i hope it does.

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YES, that is why I did this thread. It feels that way for me but people will try and make me feel guilty for it. Then, I noticed that my clients have the same thing because people don't fake it when they come to an Astrologer or a counselor. Why pay money and fake it? So, I started looking at Chiron again.

I think you can mitigate the pain through service to others but I don't think it goes away, totally. I do think that if someone could really understand how much God loves him, the pain could go but short of that, no.

That is my opinion, anyway.

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posted May 30, 2013 02:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
YES, that is why I did this thread. It feels that way for me but people will try and make me feel guilty for it. Then, I noticed that my clients have the same thing because people don't fake it when they come to an Astrologer or a counselor. Why pay money and fake it? So, I started looking at Chiron again.

I think you can mitigate the pain through service to others but I don't think it goes away, totally. I do think that if someone could really understand how much God loves him, the pain could go but short of that, no.

That is my opinion, anyway.

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posted May 30, 2013 02:59 PM            

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Originally posted by elixir:
There is a quote by Rumi “The wound is the place where the Light enters you.”

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b] YES, that is why I did this thread. It feels that way for me but people will try and make me feel guilty for it. Then, I noticed that my clients have the same thing because people don't fake it when they come to an Astrologer or a counselor. Why pay money and fake it? So, I started looking at Chiron again.

I think you can mitigate the pain through service to others but I don't think it goes away, totally. I do think that if someone could really understand how much God loves him, the pain could go but short of that, no.

That is my opinion, anyway.

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perfect quote for Chiron!

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posted May 30, 2013 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Freesia:
I'm afraid to read this topic but I feel I need it. Chiron is in my 7th house.
I had an abusive marriage which is divorced by now. Before that marriage I had several realy nice serious relationships where I was the one who ended them but we remained friends with 90% with these guys. No sad emotions frommy side. But that marriage was just terrible, don't know why I had to experience smtg like this. Any thoughts about this Chiron position?

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yes, my initial thought is that it was not bad until you got married. The 7th house is really the house of "committed" relationships. People will act like a living together is the same but it really is not, as that piece of paper is really the commitment and takes it to a whole new level imo.
That is how I see it and perhaps what happened

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posted May 31, 2013 05:48 AM            

My Chiron is in Libra in the 1st house, in conjunction with ASC and Jupiter. It has hard aspect with Saturn (I look them as two evils); and there are good aspects with NN and Uranus.

All that says that I have problems with myself, more than with other people.

WL, Bobbie

posted May 31, 2013 06:38 AM            

When I first joined LL you gave me a mini reading that included Chiron. It was the first I'd ever even heard of it and you hit it dead on when you asked me about it. But what you refered to was only friendships and groups of friends and feeling outcast to those groups. When I was a child, this was true. I never felt like I belonged with any particular group of friends.

As I've gotten older I've learned to accept who and what I am and I now choose the friendships in my life. I don't feel Chiron affecting my 11H through other people, but more in my "hopes and dreams," now.

posted May 31, 2013 08:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
yes, my initial thought is that it was not bad until you got married. The 7th house is really the house of "committed" relationships. People will act like a living together is the same but it really is not, as that piece of paper is really the commitment and takes it to a whole new level imo.
That is how I see it and perhaps what happened

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posted May 31, 2013 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Ami, what do you think about Saturn opposite Chiron?

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Hmm--what houses are each? I would think this would be hard because you would have a lot of self doubt and a lot of pain and then may go back and forth and back and forth. is that true?

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posted May 31, 2013 04:25 PM            

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Originally posted by bonadea33:
Ami Anne,

My Chiron is in Libra in the 1st house, in conjunction with ASC and Jupiter. It has hard aspect with Saturn (I look them as two evils); and there are good aspects with NN and Uranus.

All that says that I have problems with myself, more than with other people.

WL, Bobbie

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Hi Bobbie
I have seen Chiron conj the ASC associated with severe bullying. Did you have this?

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posted May 31, 2013 04:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Freesia:
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Do you think I better choose not to marry again? Simply live together? Or 2d marriage is more about 9th house and not 7th?

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I can't say do or don't get married. Make sure he aspects your Chiron well

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