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HannieBananie
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posted June 08, 2013 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HannieBananie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was always happy with who i was but these days i feel down about myself.

My family tell's me im too fat.

Also i feel threatened by other models and the society prefers VERY light black girls, ones who look Latina. That's not the case with me, even though my dad was biracial.

I never liked my nose and my eyes, wated them smaller but that's not the case.

I was with an abusive Scorpio sun/Cancer moon and after thing got outta hand, he called me fat ***** and all. he also had Libra venus, Virgo mars, Mercury in Scorpio, Leo rising.

I'm scared if another man calls me that. I'm obv not fat.

Here: http://ask.fm/HannieDmXo/answer/38043024542[when he dissed me on facebook]

And my tumblr to see pics of me and stuff: http://black-canadian-barbie.tumblr.com/

My chart: http://oi46.tinypic.com/29yfouu.jpg

Which guys like astrology-wise, would like someone like me? Lookswise?

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posted June 08, 2013 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HannieBananie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HannieBananie:
I was always happy with who i was but these days i feel down about myself.

My family tell's me im too fat.

Also i feel threatened by other models and the society prefers VERY light black girls, ones who look Latina. That's not the case with me, even though my dad was biracial.

I never liked my nose and my eyes, wated them smaller but that's not the case.

I was with an abusive Scorpio sun/Cancer moon and after thing got outta hand, he called me fat ***** and all. he also had Libra venus, Virgo mars, Mercury in Scorpio, Leo rising.

I'm scared if another man calls me that. I'm obv not fat.

Here: http://ask.fm/HannieDmXo/answer/38043024542[when he dissed me on facebook]

And my tumblr to see pics of me and stuff: http://black-canadian-barbie.tumblr.com/

My chart: http://oi46.tinypic.com/29yfouu.jpg

Which guys like astrology-wise, would like someone like me? Lookswise?


Darn it my Scorpio ex added me -.-

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posted June 08, 2013 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just check out every actor or filmstar. They need to hold for the looks and not lapse. Im not sure that will be seen in a chart.

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posted June 08, 2013 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry you've had to go through abuse

I hope it won't happen again.

It's reflected in your chart by your Mars/Saturn opposition in the 1st/7th houses. Classic aspect for abuse. Please stand up for yourself and walk away whenever someone mistreats you. You deserve better.


As for plastic surgery, it may be reflected by your Chiron in the 2nd house - your self-esteem may be low (it doesn't have to be). Or the fact that your Sun is in the 6th (house of Virgo, always seeking perfection) and squares Pluto (compulsive need for control).

I think you should focus on the quality of your relationships more than on the way you look, though.. because clearly some people have a negative influence on you (Scorpio ex) and it probably creates havoc in your emotional life (your Moon is afflicted).

So start by taking care of yourself on an emotional level, you are beautiful and no one can tell you otherwise!

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posted June 08, 2013 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im really sorry for you . Crazy people with law self-esteem abuse other people... Stay away from this people.

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posted June 08, 2013 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are beautiful! You look like Natalie Cole who is one of the most beautiful woman out there imo
Your problem is not beauty. It is confidence, which is most of our problems, dear one

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posted June 08, 2013 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HannieBananie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Sorry you've had to go through abuse

I hope it won't happen again.

It's reflected in your chart by your Mars/Saturn opposition in the 1st/7th houses. Classic aspect for abuse. Please stand up for yourself and walk away whenever someone mistreats you. You deserve better.


As for plastic surgery, it may be reflected by your Chiron in the 2nd house - your self-esteem may be low (it doesn't have to be). Or the fact that your Sun is in the 6th (house of Virgo, always seeking perfection) and squares Pluto (compulsive need for control).

I think you should focus on the quality of your relationships more than on the way you look, though.. because clearly some people have a negative influence on you (Scorpio ex) and it probably creates havoc in your emotional life (your Moon is afflicted).

So start by taking care of yourself on an emotional level, you are beautiful and no one can tell you otherwise!


Thanks. I thought i had to fix my outside, but seems like i need to fix my insides as well.

Oh and should i accept my Scorpio ex's fb request? he added me again.

I know i have an afflicted moon, i don't get along with my mom most of the time, and i'm dyslexic as well. yesterday she bxtched at me for some **** that happened on her phone when i was just playing a game on it.

I also have the Saturn square moon coming up in November. and Moon square Uranus in me solar return chart.

I think i might get kicked out of home at this time. My mom always tried to kick me out.

My Aquarius ex[1st one] beat me up. i had to get my teeth fixed.

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posted June 08, 2013 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HannieBananie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by popcorn:
Im really sorry for you . Crazy people with law self-esteem abuse other people... Stay away from this people.

Ikr.... >_>

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posted June 08, 2013 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hannie,

You should definitely focus on your inner self more, and heal the broken parts.
But first you have to get rid of all the crap in your life, and that includes you abusive ex(es).
I'd advise you not to accept him anywhere, not on social networks, and definitely not in your life.

Unfortunately, it's a common pattern - women who were abused once, often get abused twice, and three times.. until something makes them realise, that this is not a life to live.

It's something you have to face, though. Because it won't just go away.

I can't read your posts without feeling absolutely disgusted and outraged. It makes me sad to know that there are women, like you, who put up with such behaviour. ETA: I meant to add: that there are MEN who do that to women. It's not acceptable.

Seek external help, if you can.

I don't think you should let this situation as it is; obviously something's wrong here, if you keep attracting and staying with abusive men.

I hope you find a way to heal, very soon.

Sending you blessings ~

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posted June 08, 2013 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Sorry you've had to go through abuse

I hope it won't happen again.

It's reflected in your chart by your Mars/Saturn opposition in the 1st/7th houses. Classic aspect for abuse. Please stand up for yourself and walk away whenever someone mistreats you. You deserve better.


As for plastic surgery, it may be reflected by your Chiron in the 2nd house - your self-esteem may be low (it doesn't have to be). Or the fact that your Sun is in the 6th (house of Virgo, always seeking perfection) and squares Pluto (compulsive need for control).

I think you should focus on the quality of your relationships more than on the way you look, though.. because clearly some people have a negative influence on you (Scorpio ex) and it probably creates havoc in your emotional life (your Moon is afflicted).

So start by taking care of yourself on an emotional level, you are beautiful and no one can tell you otherwise!


Lovely post, Doux. You are so talented!

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posted June 08, 2013 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look up your dejanira asteriod, Sweetie. Tell me what it does. Look up nessus, too, while you are at it. I wonder if you have Nessus conj the DSC or in the 7th house?

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posted June 08, 2013 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HannieBananie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Hannie,

You should definitely focus on your inner self more, and heal the broken parts.
But first you have to get rid of all the crap in your life, and that includes you abusive ex(es).
I'd advise you not to accept him anywhere, not on social networks, and definitely not in your life.

Unfortunately, it's a common pattern - women who were abused once, often get abused twice, and three times.. until something makes them realise, that this is not a life to live.

It's something you have to face, though. Because it won't just go away.

I can't read your posts without feeling absolutely disgusted and outraged. It makes me sad to know that there are women, like you, who put up with such behaviour. ETA: I meant to add: that there are MEN who do that to women. It's not acceptable.

Seek external help, if you can.

I don't think you should let this situation as it is; obviously something's wrong here, if you keep attracting and staying with abusive men.

I hope you find a way to heal, very soon.

Sending you blessings ~


Thanks, i mean he doesnt live near me, he lives in New York,someone from yahoo answers introduced me to him. he has excess testosterone.

This all happened when my stepdad[Aries] and my mom[Libra] hacked him, because they thought he was bad news just like the Leo /Sag moon dude[he begged me for nudes on my phone, no abuse there].

Scorpio ex wants to be friends now >_>. Btw he was born on halloween.

But yeah Jason's chart here: http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/page?name=Jay&firstname=&birthplace=Brooklyn%20Heights,%20NY&lang=en&dformat=0&date=10/31/1996&time=22:45&country=1&state=36&adjust=5.0 0&long=73.59&lat=40.41

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posted June 08, 2013 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HannieBananie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks, i mean he doesnt live near me, he lives in New York,someone from yahoo answers introduced me to him. he has excess testosterone.

This all happened when my stepdad[Aries] and my mom[Libra] hacked him, because they thought he was bad news just like the Leo /Sag moon dude[he begged me for nudes on my phone, no abuse there].

Scorpio ex wants to be friends now >_>. Btw he was born on halloween.

But yeah Jason's chart here: http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/page?name=Jay&firstname=&birthplace=Brooklyn%20Heights,%20NY&lang=en&dformat=0&date=10/31/1996&time=22:45&country=1&state=36&adjust=5.0 0&long=73.59&lat=40.41


Sorry that was an error!

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posted June 08, 2013 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HannieBananie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay i'm gonna go do his chart on astro. Sorry if it takes time the asteroid list slows down my laptop.

My chart w/dejanira & nessus
: http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=oy1fileUWLyBM-u1345321877&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=432535&nho2=2162099&btyp=2&mth=gw&sday=8&smon=6&syr=2013&hsy=-1&zod=&orbp=&rs=0&ast=157%2C7066%2C

Jason's chart w/ dejanira & nessus:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_2gw_12_jay.57427.6695.gif&res=100&va=&cid=oy1fileUWLyBM-u1345321877


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posted June 08, 2013 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doux
Can I pick your brain about Mars in the 1st oppose Saturn in the 7th.

I thought Mars in the 1st would give confidence in oneself but lack of confidence in partnership. Is this what you are meaning? Thank you xx

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posted June 08, 2013 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HannieBananie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Doux
Can I pick your brain about Mars in the 1st oppose Saturn in the 7th.

I thought Mars in the 1st would give confidence in oneself but lack of confidence in partnership. Is this what you are meaning? Thank you xx


really, it does?

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posted June 08, 2013 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, mars in the first is kind of like having an Aries ASC, which is a super confident ASC.

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posted June 08, 2013 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HannieBananie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes, mars in the first is kind of like having an Aries ASC, which is a super confident ASC.


Yeah lmao, But sine it's in Libra, isnt it nullified?

I look more like Libra rising btw, i don't look "Martian" to people. I am strong though.

Cool, i just checked Natalie Cole' chart!

here: http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Natalie_Cole

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posted June 08, 2013 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hannie, you're welcome.
I hope you'll take care of yourself.


Ami,

actually Mars opposite Saturn means that the men she attracts (Mars) can have anger and control issues (the opposition to Saturn usually indicates some sort of abuse, whether emotional or physical).

And, considering that her opposition falls on the 1st/7th axis, it makes it all the more prominent in personal relationships.

Her Mars is retrograde, by the way, which could point to an inability to effectively assert herself, especially when it comes to personal relationships.

Other people may have a restricting, controlling, abusive influence on her (Saturn in the 7th, afflicted by Mars).

Hope this makes sense.

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posted June 08, 2013 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HannieBananie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey i also checked out that women with moon-venus hard aspects, most celebs with these aspects get plastic surgery.

Like for example, Kim K [Pisces moon opposite Virgo Venus]

and Nicki Minaj [Virgo moon square Sag Venus].

I have my Leo moon opp. Aqua Venus. Thought about getting it in my 20's[on my face and thigh gap's], but not sure. I just thank my mom for giving me her curvy genes, i'm a C cup. me & my mom both have curves.

Most guys here in my town are shallow af, this dude on tumblr and this Gem sun/Taurus moon in my civics' class, he is obsessed with Kate Upton[Geminian model]. That dude also has Virgo mars & Cancer Venus. duno his rising sign tho.

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posted June 08, 2013 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are really pretty!!!
He's a jerk please stay away from him. He is obviously only saying those mean things because you hurt him in some way. I mean, he has Scorpio sun and cancer moon and mercury in scorpio he is gonna be emotional sensitive and revengeful!!!

You can't believe him. Even if your body is not perfect, then why did he wanna be with you then? Or sleep with you if he didnt find your body attractive.

I think instead of turning to plastic surgery you need to not sleep with guys till your married, then you won't feel so vulnerable. And you'll just have slept with one guy in a long time...less hurt feelings build up.
Obviously these kinda situations would leave anyone traumatized....a guy asking for nude pics when u thought he actually liked you, and this other guy calling u fat and saying he used you after sleeping with you?

To me he obviously sounds bitter. And obviously did like you. He would only say such mean things if he rly liked you because someone who didnt care would just walk away and ignore your messages bc why expend their energy in that case.

It's further proof that he likes u when u say he now added you on facebook and wants to stay friends. So he may have called you fat and maybe you are a little chubby who knows, but also who cares!! He was attracted to it! Chubbiness is not unattractive you dont have to be perfect. Physical attraction is more than looks...its personality..much more about personality than looks. Facial expressions the way you walk all that

Now what isnt attractive is someone who doesnt look natural. People can usually sense bc they have this weird feeling that something doesnt look right on you. And i think that is worse than not looking perfect the way nature intended. Plus when u get plastic surgery ur gonna always be wondering....this person loves me but will they have loved as much if i was still the way i was before??? That slowly lowers ur self esteem.

Natural is beautiful. Even when plastic surgery made the person look amazing (which rarely happens but ive seen it with two celebrities) u still see that the way they looked before was okay too and they were still beautiful, even with a bigger nose....there was almost something more exotic about their appearance which made them more attractive. It's VERY hard to make plastic surgery look natural. Even Elsa Pataky who looks amazing now (but was still pretty before) u cant tell she had work done in pictures but u can tell in videos because her nose looks abnormally small...theres something about it that just looks odd in videos.

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posted June 08, 2013 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, that is not true about being light skinned!!!!! There are a ton of dark skin black gurls that i know who are very attractive! the only difference is that they wear makeup and take care of themselves, paint their nails, and make sure to keep their body in shape. Plastic surgery is not the way to go it never looks natural trust me. Exercise is the way to go. And looking polished....u know having nice hair, painting ur nails, wearing nice clothes, etc.

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posted June 08, 2013 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HannieBananie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You are really pretty!!!
He's a jerk please stay away from him. He is obviously only saying those mean things because you hurt him in some way. I mean, he has Scorpio sun and cancer moon and mercury in scorpio he is gonna be emotional sensitive and revengeful!!!

You can't believe him. Even if your body is not perfect, then why did he wanna be with you then? Or sleep with you if he didnt find your body attractive.

I think instead of turning to plastic surgery you need to not sleep with guys till your married, then you won't feel so vulnerable. And you'll just have slept with one guy in a long time...less hurt feelings build up.
Obviously these kinda situations would leave anyone traumatized....a guy asking for nude pics when u thought he actually liked you, and this other guy calling u fat and saying he used you after sleeping with you?

To me he obviously sounds bitter. And obviously did like you. He would only say such mean things if he rly liked you because someone who didnt care would just walk away and ignore your messages bc why expend their energy in that case.

It's further proof that he likes u when u say he now added you on facebook and wants to stay friends. So he may have called you fat and maybe you are a little chubby who knows, but also who cares!! He was attracted to it! Chubbiness is not unattractive you dont have to be perfect. Physical attraction is more than looks...its personality..much more about personality than looks. Facial expressions the way you walk all that

Now what isnt attractive is someone who doesnt look natural. People can usually sense bc they have this weird feeling that something doesnt look right on you. And i think that is worse than not looking perfect the way nature intended. Plus when u get plastic surgery ur gonna always be wondering....this person loves me but will they have loved as much if i was still the way i was before??? That slowly lowers ur self esteem.

Natural is beautiful. Even when plastic surgery made the person look amazing (which rarely happens but ive seen it with two celebrities) u still see that the way they looked before was okay too and they were still beautiful, even with a bigger nose....there was almost something more exotic about their appearance which made them more attractive. It's VERY hard to make plastic surgery look natural. Even Elsa Pataky who looks amazing now (but was still pretty before) u cant tell she had work done in pictures but u can tell in videos because her nose looks abnormally small...theres something about it that just looks odd in videos.


I just broke up with him because if he's gonna avoid me then whatever.

Plus he had a Rebound B*tch so idc. No more

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posted June 08, 2013 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HannieBananie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw i'm a Virgin never slept with any of them, met them on fb/bbm. Dont plan to till i'm really ready and i've known the person for a while.

Someone from yahoo answers, a friend[Pisces sun/Aqua moon] introduced me to the Scorpio sun/Cancer moon dude, She's his older sister btw.

He also has Mars square Pluto as well...

And he added me on facebook as well so not sure, really.

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posted June 08, 2013 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Hannie, you're welcome.
I hope you'll take care of yourself.


Ami,

actually Mars opposite Saturn means that the men she attracts (Mars) can have anger and control issues (the opposition to Saturn usually indicates some sort of abuse, whether emotional or physical).

And, considering that her opposition falls on the 1st/7th axis, it makes it all the more prominent in personal relationships.

Her Mars is retrograde, by the way, which could point to an inability to effectively assert herself, especially when it comes to personal relationships.

Other people may have a restricting, controlling, abusive influence on her (Saturn in the 7th, afflicted by Mars).

Hope this makes sense.



Is Mars the men you attract? I did not know that we could look at Mars that way?

Saturn in the 7th would make her have self doubt in relationships. Right?

So, her self doubt( Saturn in the 7th) would effect the men she attracts and her relationships( 7th house).

Is that how you are breaking it down, Doux? Thank you!

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