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CAY_512
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posted June 11, 2013 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CAY_512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is his chart (no birthtime)

What do you guys think?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yB3n9fu-rM

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posted June 11, 2013 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini definitely makes sense, and Pluto/Saturn interplay with his Sun, NN, and mars is interesting.

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posted June 11, 2013 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for page one     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's got a stellium opposing Neptune. Interesting.

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posted June 11, 2013 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His South Node conjuncts his Neptune. Dubious intentions, I'd say.

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posted June 11, 2013 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depending on the time of day, couldn't he be a Cancer? I remember thinking him very soft in the eyes when I first saw footage of him - if you made his Ascendant early Gemini, then all of his planets in the first would make sense given his deep passion for truth and general transparency.

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posted June 11, 2013 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer cusp sun, Scorpio moon, Year of the Pig: Water influence~ compassion for the people being spied on, abused, manipulated.

(Btw Julian Assange is also a Cancer sun, Scorpio moon, Pig)

Lots of Gemini--> communicating a LOT

He's very Plutonian, with that sun trine Pluto-Saturn and Scorpio moon.

Mars conjunct NN...destined for war?

Edit: Julian Assange also has Mars conjunct NN, in Aquarius, right on his IC

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posted June 11, 2013 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Cancer cusp sun, Scorpio moon, Year of the Pig: Water influence~ compassion for the people being spied on, abused, manipulated.

(Btw Julian Assange is also a Cancer sun, Scorpio moon, Pig)

Lots of Gemini--> communicating a LOT

He's very Plutonian, with that sun trine Pluto-Saturn and Scorpio moon.

Mars conjunct NN...destined for war?


And opposite Neptune. I wonder if this guy can be a bit of a verbal bully?

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posted June 11, 2013 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
And opposite Neptune. I wonder if this guy can be a bit of a verbal bully?

Maybe, I haven't been following the story too closely. And I have Mars opposing Neptune as well so I'm not the best person to ask about this. I recuse myself.

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posted June 11, 2013 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bradley Manning is also a Scorpio moon, possibly conjunct Mars and Pluto.

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posted June 11, 2013 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this interesting read:
http://solarisastrology.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-astrology-of-edward-snowden-and-cia.html

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posted June 11, 2013 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And:
http://twilightstarsong.blogspot.com/2013/06/why-should-we-care-edward-snowdens.html

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posted June 11, 2013 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jellyfishtry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting,
year of the pig= Most honest of all the Chinese star signs.

And he seems to have seen a lot at the end of his Saturn Return.

I find his Saturn sextile Neptune very telling about what he did-->idealist, ready to sacrifice some of his own comfort, for the sake of the betterment of others

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posted June 12, 2013 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Right.

And thank you for the articles, mockingbird...I loved the comment the author quoted in the Why Should We Care one

I wanted to add that Glenn Greenwald (born March 6, 1967) has Mars conjunct his south node in Scorpio, and is either a Cap or Aqua moon. Greenwald is a Sheep, Manning is a Rabbit...all these high profile whistle blowers are Chinese water signs.

ETA: And Ron Paul, who is consistently supportive of the whistle blowers, is also a Pig.

They say that the Western equivalent of the Pig is Scorpio, an idea that's always perplexed me...but maybe there is just more to the Pig than I ever caught on to.

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posted June 12, 2013 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Biggie planets trining Pluto. This is a strong as horseradish dude. Blessings to him. Lets keep him in all of our prayers. I know that I am.

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posted June 12, 2013 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder how he will make it through with sun trine Saturn? Maybe he will stay on the run or cut some deal? Maybe, there will be wide scale changes because of him. Plus, Saturn conjuncts Pluto. I need to add him to my "sun trine Saturn" club, heh.

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posted June 12, 2013 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Biggie planets trining Pluto. This is a strong as horseradish dude. Blessings to him. Lets keep him in all of our prayers. I know that I am.



Oh thanks, I have Mercury and Mars trine Pluto myself.

Seriously though...I'm with you on this one, Ami.' Keeping my thoughts with Snowden...there are more revelations to come, and we'll have to see how it all unfolds, but I think his intentions were honorable and heroic.

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posted June 12, 2013 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I wonder how he will make it through with sun trine Saturn? Maybe he will stay on the run or cut some deal? Maybe, there will be wide scale changes because of him. Plus, Saturn conjuncts Pluto. I need to add him to my "sun trine Saturn" club, heh.

Why do you say this? Thanks so much. I mean the astrological reasoning

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posted June 12, 2013 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jellyfishtry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 12, 2013 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jellyfishtry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
And opposite Neptune. I wonder if this guy can be a bit of a verbal bully?

i don't know about verbal bully but he seems to know exactly what he is saying,

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"People who think I made a mistake in picking (Hong Kong) as a location misunderstand my intentions. I am not here to hide from justice; I am here to reveal criminality," Snowden is quoted as telling the Post earlier Wednesday

could be his Mercury sextiling Venus though making him a diplomat, and lessening the oppositions mentioned.

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posted June 12, 2013 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Why do you say this? Thanks so much. I mean the astrological reasoning



I have a sun trine Saturn aspect in my natal chart, so I am really fascinated by others who share this aspect in theirs. I am wondering how this aspect will help him from here on out? Sun trine Saturn is the mark of someone who wants to do the right thing and push society's boundaries to make it easier, or at least, that's how the person with sun trine Saturn perceives it. It might not look that way to everyone, and some could disagree, so we experience controversy. Madonna and Lady Gaga have both attempted this with their "art" and it looks like Snowden has attempted it with his whistle blowing. Maybe Snowden will avoid a prison term? He's going up against NSA so I have no idea. That agency is notorious for being really tough and super paranoid, I have read. In fact, I read about the NSA in an astrology magazine a while back, lol. What a coincidence! There were charts for it and everything.

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posted June 12, 2013 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Did not know that BUT wouldn't the trine give ease and not imprisonment etc

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posted June 12, 2013 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jellyfish, I am not really sure how Neptune plays out for him. With Neptune there can be lies and deceit, yet, it is in opposition so it could mean these could be used by others against him. Hard to know with oppositions.

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posted June 12, 2013 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow Did not know that BUT wouldn't the trine give ease and not imprisonment etc


It will help him in the long run. Not sure how it will (whether he will stay on the run or the government will give him a deal of some kind.) I want to see how it goes for him just for some insight into other charts with this trine aspect.

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posted June 12, 2013 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see. Thank you, Starlight. If he had the square or opposition, I could see a bad ending more. You, too?

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posted June 12, 2013 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I see. Thank you, Starlight. If he had the square or opposition, I could see a bad ending more. You, too?



You're welcome, Ami!

I see bad things in the conjunction of Neptune and the south node, opposite Sun and Mars. This is a tough call. Even if he does end up in prison, the outcome for society might be lasting, for a while at least, by changing the way NSA operates, maybe the CIA as well? Less invasive tactics, perhaps? Nothing seems to last forever. He will affect a generation or two, maybe?

He also has a powerful opposition, natal Mercury against Jupiter and Uranus involving domains, I believe. I don't really trust oppositions too much. They tend to show up in charts of people who experience bad fortune.


The article in the astrology magazine discussed the charts of the NSA and CIA. It was a fascinating read.

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