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Ami Anne
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posted June 23, 2013 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^ I think you're right Doux, I've also noticed people with Mars retrogade in their natal, can be very aggresive without thinking, they just "explode" for even tiny things and they dont care if they hurt someones feelings.

I didn't know that. I don't know any people with it. Is it quite rare? I would think they would stuff things but then I guess that could cause explosions

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posted June 23, 2013 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have seen an Unaspected Mars go totally wild. I only know 2 people with this. One I saw go wild. The other one I don't know well lol

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posted June 23, 2013 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I didn't know that. I don't know any people with it. Is it quite rare? I would think they would stuff things but then I guess that could cause explosions



Hmm I dont know if its rare Ami but its definitely true. My mother and cousin both have that, and they can have a total explosion over the most silly thing, hurt other peoples feelings and then be all bubbly and fun. They are also gonna tell you you made such a big deal out of it for getting upset.

I had read somewhere that retrogade mars in natal represent hidden agressiveness.

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posted June 23, 2013 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, It's Aqua! xx

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posted June 23, 2013 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its_aqua

I have seen that too, with 3 people who have Mars retro natally.

They repress their anger and can have moments where they just can't take it anymore and explode.

But it's different from a Mars/Saturn aspect.. it seems even more under the surface, whereas with Mars/Saturn there's usually visible irritability/frustration.

With Mars retro it's like they're wayyy too calm, you know it's just not right to be this calm, lol.. That's why you don't really see it coming.

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posted June 23, 2013 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
its_aqua

I have seen that too, with 3 people who have Mars retro natally.

They repress their anger and can have moments where they just can't take it anymore and explode.

But it's different from a Mars/Saturn aspect.. it seems even more under the surface, whereas with Mars/Saturn there's usually visible irritability/frustration.

With Mars retro it's like they're wayyy too calm, you know it's just not right to be this calm, lol.. That's why you don't really see it coming.


very fascinating, Doux. I will have to watch for this.

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posted June 23, 2013 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I noticed - people who are heavily influence by Algol (fixed star - spot on Taurus) tend to be sadistic in some way.

...and while comparing some names from this list: http://25mostevil.wordpress.com/ - some seem to have 8'th House in common. Most of above names have a chart in Astro.com database.

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posted June 23, 2013 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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They may be saying a person numbs out their heart( Moon) Saturn cools what it touches.

How is that being sadistic? I thought a sadistic person liked to purposely inflict pain on others..

WhenI feel "numb" it means I have no romantic feelings for that person. Doesn't mean I don't feel pity/empathy for them..

(I have Moon trine Saturn)

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posted June 23, 2013 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
From what I noticed - people who are heavily influence by Algol (fixed star - spot on Taurus) tend to be sadistic in some way.

...and while comparing some names from this list: http://25mostevil.wordpress.com/ - some seem to have 8'th House in common. Most of above names have a chart in Astro.com database.



Thank you for this. I was thinking about this!

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posted June 23, 2013 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
How is that being sadistic? I thought a sadistic person liked to purposely inflict pain on others..

WhenI feel "numb" it means I have no romantic feelings for that person. Doesn't mean I don't feel pity/empathy for them..

(I have Moon trine Saturn)


It would be a stretch and the trine would not even apply imo but we are just discussing possibilities here, not saying absolutes

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posted June 23, 2013 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, what Ami said

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posted June 23, 2013 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Nessus, too.

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posted June 23, 2013 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AimlessIvy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asteroid Sado (118230) aspecting a prominent point in a chart can be quite revealing.

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posted June 23, 2013 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AimlessIvy:
Asteroid Sado (118230) aspecting a prominent point in a chart can be quite revealing.

Hahahahahah!!!
Sado is conjunct my sun!
I am actually pretty sadistic from time to time. And I have moon square saturn/venus

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I've been studying chart of my friend who can be quite sadistic.

Her Sun & Moon trines Pluto, and Mercury & Venus squares it. Mars semi-square Pluto is one of the most tightest aspects in her chart. She has Mars opp. Saturn, and Saturn-Pluto aspect too.

Her Leo Sun/Mercury and Aries Moon/Saturn and especially Libra Mars doesn't suit her at all! I've always thought she was more like a water sign.

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posted June 25, 2013 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have mars square Neptune and am not sadistic at all. I also have moon opp Pluto. It has to be something else

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posted June 25, 2013 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just looking at a girl i know's chart who i think is sadistic/sociopathic

she is sag sun, cancer moon, cancer rising.
a few things that stick out that could be related

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moon in 12th trine pluto, opposite neptune
venus in scorpio conjunct pluto

venus inconjunct mars
venus trine chiron
mars square chiron

mars square neptune, uranus, and saturn.

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posted June 25, 2013 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great bump. I will come back and read all the posts. thank you!!

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This is such an interesting thread!
I feel like an afflicted mars would definitely count, and Nessus, Pluto, Sado, or even Chaos in a prominent place in the chart such as an angle, or harsh aspect/conjunction with a personal planet.

Maybe any of the aforementioned asteroids in conjunction with mercury, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto or Mars. I only mention mercury because I feel like any of the asteroids like Sado conjunct Mercury would depict a sadistic way of thinking.

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Mars-Saturn, Moon-Saturn.

I would include both hard and soft aspects. It is usually easily seen in people with the hard aspects but ones with the soft aspects can commit a sadistic act and easily get away with it because people don’t really suspect them as it is usually not seen on the surface.

The most sadistic person I know is interestingly a Pisces Sun.



I agree with Pisces Sun.
Yikes, for Mars-Saturn and Moon-Saturn because those three form grand trine in my chart (water).

The way I see it, water people have this deep understanding of human nature. Especially high water people. So logically, they know where to hit to hurt.

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Cancer rising....not everyone with this rising sign is sadistic, but the ones I personally know with cancer rising had the ability to stab you in the back while smiling to your face. They were colder than ice. Again, this applies to only people I know. I'm certain there are many compassionate and lovely cancer risings out there.

Harsh moon-pluto aspects-- I have moon square pluto and I can be very sadistic if someone crosses me. I know exactly what to say or do to completely ruin someone's life. Again, I only do this if someone hurts my family or me.

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