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Topic: What Astrologicla Traits Would You Look For In the Trait of Sadism
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 71613 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 22, 2013 09:09 PM
I have some I think but I want to hear what you have to say. Thanks!------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 71613 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 22, 2013 09:10 PM
Sorry I misspelled Astrological. My eyes are hurting ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Vradec Knowflake Posts: 345 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 22, 2013 09:31 PM
Maybe harsh contacts between Moon and Pluto, or Pluto and Mars.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 71613 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 22, 2013 09:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Vradec: Maybe harsh contacts between Moon and Pluto, or Pluto and Mars.
Can you explain why you would say this? Thanks ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 71613 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 22, 2013 09:51 PM
If you can describe how you came to this, that would be great as I have to get behind the eyes of every aspect to understand it. If not, that is find and thanks for your post. xx------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Vradec Knowflake Posts: 345 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 22, 2013 09:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Can you explain why you would say this? Thanks
I've known of Mars Opposite Pluto people to have such a hidden anger/drive/obsession that they can be quite sadistic, especially in that they often love revenge. Moon harshly aspected to Pluto - just seen it.
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Kerosene unregistered
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posted June 22, 2013 10:12 PM
Mars square neptune IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5848 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted June 22, 2013 10:16 PM
Mars-Saturn, Moon-Saturn.I would include both hard and soft aspects. It is usually easily seen in people with the hard aspects but ones with the soft aspects can commit a sadistic act and easily get away with it because people don’t really suspect them as it is usually not seen on the surface. The most sadistic person I know is interestingly a Pisces Sun. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9922 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 23, 2013 06:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: Mars-Saturn, Moon-Saturn.
Agree with this. Will also add Pluto in the mix, and maybe Neptune - for a lack of morality / boundaries. Not gonna lie, I can be cruel (psychologically) if I get angry, and very selfish. I don't get that way often but it's there, part of my dark side. My father and sister are the same way.. We all share a Mars/Saturn square. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 71613 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 23, 2013 07:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by Vradec: I've known of Mars Opposite Pluto people to have such a hidden anger/drive/obsession that they can be quite sadistic, especially in that they often love revenge.Moon harshly aspected to Pluto - just seen it.
Thank you very much!
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 71613 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 23, 2013 07:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: Mars square neptune
Why? Can you explain it verbally?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 71613 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 23, 2013 07:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: Mars-Saturn, Moon-Saturn.I would include both hard and soft aspects. It is usually easily seen in people with the hard aspects but ones with the soft aspects can commit a sadistic act and easily get away with it because people don’t really suspect them as it is usually not seen on the surface. The most sadistic person I know is interestingly a Pisces Sun.
Interesting. Never thought of this. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 71613 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 23, 2013 07:28 AM
Thank you Doux. I may come back to pick your brain, if you don't mind. I want to think about it, a bit.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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meyray Knowflake Posts: 776 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted June 23, 2013 07:59 AM
Can someone please explain how Moon-Saturn aspects can make a person have a sadistic streak? This really caught my attention.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 71613 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 23, 2013 08:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by meyray: Can someone please explain how Moon-Saturn aspects can make a person have a sadistic streak? This really caught my attention.
They may be saying a person numbs out their heart( Moon) Saturn cools what it touches. People may answer differently. I would love to hear different takes on it. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1618 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted June 23, 2013 08:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: Mars-Saturn, Moon-Saturn.I would include both hard and soft aspects. It is usually easily seen in people with the hard aspects but ones with the soft aspects can commit a sadistic act and easily get away with it because people don’t really suspect them as it is usually not seen on the surface. The most sadistic person I know is interestingly a Pisces Sun.
I have Moon trine Saturn, Mars trine Saturn and Moon sextile Mars aspects. I'm the furthest thing from sadistic. When I truly get angry/ annoyed at someone, I just respond with my old plain pokerface. When people try to stir me up, I frustrate them even further with my excessive " coolness". Though it's just a natural/instinctive response I can't control. ------------------ Virgo Ascendant Libra Moon Sagittarius Sun Massive 3rd House Stellium IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1618 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted June 23, 2013 08:21 AM
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9922 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 23, 2013 08:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: They may be saying a person numbs out their heart( Moon) Saturn cools what it touches.
Yes. You turn your emotional / feeling side off, which in turn can make you quite "careless" and therefore insensitive and inconsiderate. ETA: This can happen with Moon/Pluto too, actually I think Moon/Pluto is way harsher than Moon/Saturn hard aspects. Of course, "sadism" sounds extreme, so that would have to be some hardcore combo between Mars, Saturn, Pluto, Uranus or Neptune (the outer planets can be very unpredictable and hard to control on a personal level). So a Moon/Saturn aspect by itself won't make someone sadistic, and definitely not if it's a flowing one! Look to squares and oppositions and sometimes the conjunction, for extreme behaviour. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 71613 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 23, 2013 08:51 AM
Thanks Doux. Great explanation. sadism would require a NUMBER of factors in concert with each other.One must break down the subject as we think in terms of thread but the whole ball of yarn is made up of many threads. For newbies, don't think you are sadistic because you have some of the threads. There are many, many factors involved and one has free choice, as well IP: Logged |
its_aqua Knowflake Posts: 836 From: Mars Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 23, 2013 09:58 AM
I have Moon quincunx Pluto, square Saturn and square Neptune. Bu sadistic do you mean someone who wants to cause physical pain? Because thats not my case. I could never imagine me hurting anyone who hasnt hurt me, BUT if someone hurts me, I'll surely take revenge at some point! Of course not hurt them physically. But I wil find a way to make them feel like I felt. I'll bring an example. For instance, If a guy hurts me and then leave and then re-appears, I will pretend I still like him and all, and when he's hooked I''ll leave him like he did to me, or do sth like that in order to cause him pain!So I'm not sure if this tupe of behaviour is considered sadistic or not, but it is revengefull i guess :/ IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 71613 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 23, 2013 10:01 AM
I am wondering about the Mars. What say you?------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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its_aqua Knowflake Posts: 836 From: Mars Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 23, 2013 10:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I am wondering about the Mars. What say you?
I didnt understand if you were reffering to my post Ami, but I will anwser anyway! My Mars is well aspect, it's trine Sun and trine Saturn and is in Gemini 12th house. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9922 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 23, 2013 10:07 AM
I think Mars in the mix can make someone sadistic physically, while with Moon or Pluto afflictions, it's more on an emotional / psychological level (like its_aqua described).Mars / Saturn can be violent if pushed, because they (we) repress anger to a maximum and then implode or explode. Men are more likely to be externally aggressive than women. Mars / Pluto is more on an emotional level, again. But physical violence / abuse is possible, definitely. IP: Logged |
its_aqua Knowflake Posts: 836 From: Mars Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 23, 2013 10:11 AM
^ I think you're right Doux, I've also noticed people with Mars retrogade in their natal, can be very aggresive without thinking, they just "explode" for even tiny things and they dont care if they hurt someones feelings.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 71613 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 23, 2013 10:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by its_aqua: I didnt understand if you were reffering to my post Ami, but I will anwser anyway! My Mars is well aspect, it's trine Sun and trine Saturn and is in Gemini 12th house.
No, I was talking about Mars in general xx ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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