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Brontex
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posted June 28, 2013 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brontex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Generally it's based on how complicated and technical it is. You are right about it being subjective, but things with many layers, forethought, strategy and technical correctness tend to win out over stuff that's more amateur. People like to be amazed by what they see.

Ha. While I personally agree with this sentiment wholeheartedly. I am (much to my own disgust) going to cite Rothko and Pollock as proof that this isn't always the case.

I hang a print by each over my toilets for a good reason But according to my art major/dealer friends both are pure genius...

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posted June 28, 2013 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That makes more sense to me, somethingexcellent, than strictly dividing the brain up into left and right. Sounds more like brainwashing.

Brontex, seriously, Polluck is AMAZINGLY COMPLICATED. Just stare at some of his paintings, you will see this. It's in the detailssssss!

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posted June 29, 2013 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brontex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Brontex, seriously, Polluck is AMAZINGLY COMPLICATED. Just stare at some of his paintings, you will see this. It's in the detailssssss!

Haha. I rest my case
Besides, I'm way too new here to start thread-jacking. As much as I like talking about "fine" art, this one is about planets and brain halves.

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posted June 29, 2013 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, I apologize 12th Houser, hope you don't mind...back on topic now!

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posted June 29, 2013 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Yep, I apologize 12th Houser, hope you don't mind...back on topic now!

12thhouser doesn't like it when people derail his threads!
I remember that one time, he asked about.. oh wait, I'm doing it again, tss.
Gonna stop now!


Back on topic.

Right brain: Moon, Venus, Neptune?
Left brain: Mercury, Saturn?

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posted June 29, 2013 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brontex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yep, I apologize 12th Houser, hope you don't mind...back on topic now!

Me? Never
<--- Walking tangent

The original poster on the other hand...

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posted June 29, 2013 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brontex:
on the other hand

Such a Libran thing to say, isn't it?

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posted June 29, 2013 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brontex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Such a Libran thing to say, isn't it?


I didn't realize bad puns were a Libra quality?
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Right. On topic. Here are my details. You guys might be able to pick out similarities/differences better than I can. I'm still pretty new at all this.

Hopefully it sheds a little light on the aspects of someone who switches between the two constantly though.


Wish I could offer something more substantial in terms of theories. Sorry.

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posted June 29, 2013 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brontex:
I didn't realize bad puns were a Libra quality?

Hah, no, but considering two sides of a situation is (the figurative "other hand").
You know, the scales and all.

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Wish I could offer something more substantial in terms of theories. Sorry.

Don't be sorry, go learn some astrology lessons instead.


I have a few ideas as to what in your chart could point to that ability but I'm extremely tired right now so will be back later.

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posted June 29, 2013 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brontex:
Me? Never
<--- Walking tangent

The original poster on the other hand...


What are you talking about?

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posted June 29, 2013 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brontex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
What are you talking about?

It was a misinterpretation on my part:
SSS and I were apologizing for derailing the thread.

(Again, I apologize...vast/interesting topic IMO, difficult to test considering how little we actually know about the brain and easy to get sidetracked considering how many areas it touches upon.)

I initially took SSS's statement to mean something along the lines of "sorry [I'm a] 12th Houser [here]" and completely missed that she was referencing your screen name until after the fact. Since I can't delete posts, I decided to just run with it instead of replacing it with a "." or something equally vague.

No offense intended.

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posted June 29, 2013 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back to the original topic, please.

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posted June 29, 2013 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
What I find so interesting about this is how personalized each of our right brain and left brain thinking and functioning can be as we look to see what signs (and even planetary/luminary activity) rule (or are in) the 10th and 11th house.

What I'd be curious about is what it's like for someone with a duplicated sign over the 10th and 11th house cusp (or if a planet is on the 11th house cusp and is therefore more of a 10th/11th house "blend") if they find their thinking to be more unified and whole, or what their experience is like.

Thanks for the feedback so far. Keep it coming, everyone!


I have scorpio on the 10th and the 11th. My thinking isn't unified. My thoughts are all over the place.

Other than that..ermm.. like some posters here, I can write with both of my hands at the same time. With the 5 planets I have in the 12th, I think they muddle my thoughts up a bit.

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posted June 29, 2013 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
such lucky people! i use my left hand only: cant write with my right hand, cant cut the bread, cant do my nails, cant play quitar(unless i do some changes of course) etc etc
saturn and uranus are in one sign and house, mercury 12th

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posted June 29, 2013 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brontex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
I have scorpio on the 10th and the 11th. ....With the 5 planets I have in the 12th, I think they muddle my thoughts up a bit.

Hmmm. So that's 3 so far who use both sides either together or in rapid succession (assuming that the classic handedness example holds true) that show planetary concentrations in either the 12th or 6th house.

When you look at your natal chart in wheel formation, does it seem lopsided?

Mine leans heavily to the right. And I suppose the pursuits I apply myself to or make a living at are generally considered right-brained (e.g. web design, translating technical documents into marketing copy) but also require fairly heavy use of both sides.

Clearly, muddled thoughts or at least non-linear thinking are a concern though. At least in my case...

12Muddy, are things fairly empty around your 6th House? And, if you had to pick one over the other, would you consider your natural tendencies more left-brained or right-brained?

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posted June 29, 2013 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The left‑hemisphere is the thinking/doing realm of invention/incorporation, and is LOGICAL/MATERIAL; the two FORCES in this realm are the inward/outward yin‑yang pair of Earth and Air.

The right‑hemisphere is the seeing/sensing Realm of inspiration/intuition, and is SPATIAL/SPRITUAL; the two FORCES in this Realm are the inward/outward yin‑yang pair of Water and Fire.

http://lucenaturale.com/HowAstrologyMapsToTheHemishperes.htm

According to that reasoning, people who have balanced elements in their charts would use both brains (almost) equally.

So, in Brontex's case for example, we can see that he has a Libra stellium in the 6th (Air + Earth) which favors the left brain, but then he also has his chart ruler Venus in Sag (Fire), Mars in Leo (Fire) and the dispositor of his 6th house Mercury in Scorpio (Water) which favors the right brain.

Also, Sun conjuncts Saturn (Earth) and Jupiter (Fire) which could point to a similar effect.


Now we need to see if this works for other people!


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posted June 29, 2013 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brontex: My chart leans to the left. Empty 6th house. Lol my username says it all. My mind is like a little murky pond. I act mainly on feelings and instincts. I can’t really argue/debate efficiently with logic, feelings and emotions often get in the way.


It is difficult to pick on over the other. Although I’m good with a few left-brain tasks like science and math, I find them a little too “dry". I like right-brained things such as colours, fantasy, dreams, expressing/reading/feelings emotions, imagination, music... I associate people and things with colours, images, memories and sounds. Creative and expressive pursuits make me happier. I think my natural tendencies lean just a bit towards right-brained, but I guess what I really, really want is a balanced mix between the two. The right and the left should be working in harmony.

Thanks Doux Rêve for your findings. They also work for my case (I think) Capricorn stellium (4 planets) in the 12th – Earth/Water. Sag mercury is also in the 12th – Fire/Water. Jupiter in Leo (7th house) – Fire/Air.

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posted June 29, 2013 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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left brain and right brain arent actually in conflict with each other. right brain is your "creative" brain while your left brain is your "analytical" brain. a mark of true genius is to train those two to act in conjunction with one another.
its odd though, because im naturally more analytical in my thinking rather than creative, even though i am pisces heavy. its been just recently where ive learned to tap into that pisces heavy imaginative powers to help my art.



This reminds me of the opposition between Virgo and Pisces, maybe between Leo and Aquarius as well since Leo is creativity, Aquarius, logic/science. Virgo is fine analysis, Pisces, the arts and imagination.

The idea is to balance these two oppositions and use both sides of the brain, as some of you have suggested. This is my task with Virgo/Pisces axis imo.

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posted June 29, 2013 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brontex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Now we need to see if this works for other people!

Yes. Definitely. I'd really like to see the chart of someone who excels in left-brained tasks---like an international tax specialist, or better yet, a human calculator.

And thanks for the link, Doux Reve. Very cool.
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12Muddy, thanks for the input. It doesn't exactly go with my theory 100% (I was kind of hoping you'd favor left-brained tasks) but it kind of works at the same time too. Maybe like using different tool kits to reach similar goals. Not sure, still mulling it all over.
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For some reason all of this keeps making me think of the first few chapters of Michael Talbot's 'The Holographic Universe.' Worth a read if any of you guys ever get a chance.
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Thinking back to 12thhouser's original post, and the question about the affect using the non-dominate hemisphere has on mood/sense of self/productivity, it occurs to me that I completely lose the ability to spell (even very simple words) when I write with my left hand and that I do feel a certain shift in personality.

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posted June 29, 2013 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seems like those twelfth house planets prefer right brained tasks from my experience. Maybe it depends on aspects, signs and planets involved? Sixth house seems much more left brain oriented. Having so much going on in twelve, I naturally crave what six represents. Twelfth house is the sub conscious mind and I find it has a lot of influence over my thinking and like 12Muddy, I have a lot of emotion, trouble with details, saying the wrong things at the wrong time, typical twelfth house stuff but I am heavy on imagination, to the point of excess. I tend to rely on it which might be called right brained. Not sure where the subconscious fits in? Not even sure if I completely agree with the concept of right/left brained thinking...I am more about the mysteries of the mind, the subconscious, and the super conscious.

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posted June 29, 2013 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12muddy & Brontex,

You're welcome, guys.

SSS,

The opposition thing makes a lot of sense!
And the need for balance.
The 12th / 6th house polarity especially - Pisces vs Virgo - the great dreamer vs the great organiser.

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I'd really like to see the chart of someone who excels in left-brained tasks---like an international tax specialist, or better yet, a human calculator.

I've checked out some charts of famous mathematicians and the vast majority of them have their Sun or Mercury in an Earth or Air sign, and Mercury / Saturn apsects are very common.
A lot of them have some Aquarius influence, also.
So (without taking houses into account), looks like there's something to it.

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it occurs to me that I completely lose the ability to spell (even very simple words) when I write with my left hand and that I do feel a certain shift in personality.

I can definitely feel very distinct energies when I use (or even just focus on) my right hand or left hand.
With the right hand, it's like I'm more grounded and in control. My vision of things is clearer, and I'm more realistic.
If I start using my left hand, I feel more creative and less grounded, like my mind automatically shifts to another dimension, a more imaginative / open-minded one.

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posted June 29, 2013 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha, with my left hand, I just feel really uncoordinated

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posted June 29, 2013 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Well, that too!

Depends on what I'm doing with it though, for example when it comes to cleaning / washing something, peeling something, or distributing stuff, I use my left hand and it feels natural.

I should work on improving my left-handedness, though!

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posted June 29, 2013 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always want to use my left hand and ear when talking on the phone. I cannot use my right for this. What about you, Doux? Any preference there and what do you think accounts for it?

Not sure if it's a right/left brain issue or not? What do you think?

With me, it might be that I hear better out of my left ear than right, slightly.

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posted June 29, 2013 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Me too!

Hm.. Maybe it's because when we talk on the phone, we tend to visualize the person we're talking with, and make associations with their voice / appearance - all pretty much abstract stuff.

And when they're speaking to us, we tend to make mental images in our head to better undertstand what they're saying.
And vice versa, when we want to transmit an idea, we tend to focus on the abstract, which is mainly a right brain function.

That'd be my guess.

Oh and, I hear better with my left ear, too.
So maybe that's the reason.

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