posted July 01, 2013 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Doesn't this mean you used his theory

Now I'm lost.

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posted July 01, 2013 02:22 PM            

Scorpio 6h, merc in sag, ruler mars/pluto in the 5h. Mercury square moon and jupiter.

Taurus 12h, venus in the 4th. See details below for Venus.

5hR/11hL

Libra 5h, Sun, mars pluto in Scorpio. ruler venus in the 4th. 3 planets trine moon and MC, sextile uranus and neptune. Ruler venus trine saturn, square uranus and neptune.

Aries 11h, ruler mars in Scorpio 5h. Mars conj sun and pluto, trine moon, sextile uranus and neptune.

In your theory, SSS, looks like mercury, mars, pluto and venus are the key players to the R/L brained theory.

Even without really delving in, I think the 5h is more dominant, considering the number of aspects it makes to other planets, especially the moon which is a luminary and conj an angle. My 6h is debilitated, even if it has power as the chart ruler. Aside from numbers, I think my greatest weakness is my inability to separate my emotions from logic. I let my emotions get in the way too often, which is also in line with what my nodal axis means (which by the way, also fits 12thhouser's theory where my 10h ruler conjuncts NN).

posted July 01, 2013 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
I'm actually kinda lost...how does my method fit your theory? Mercury and Venus denote left and right brain, while you've said H10 and H11. I don't see a relation...except in my own chart since M+V are my 11 and 10 rulers.

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Technically, you did without realizing it coincidence?

posted July 01, 2013 02:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Lunae:
6hL/12hR

Scorpio 6h, merc in sag, ruler mars/pluto in the 5h. Mercury square moon and jupiter.

Taurus 12h, venus in the 4th. See details below for Venus.

5hR/11hL

Libra 5h, Sun, mars pluto in Scorpio. ruler venus in the 4th. 3 planets trine moon and MC, sextile uranus and neptune. Ruler venus trine saturn, square uranus and neptune.

Aries 11h, ruler mars in Scorpio 5h. Mars conj sun and pluto, trine moon, sextile uranus and neptune.

In your theory, SSS, looks like mars and venus are the key players to the R/L brained theory.

In your theory SSS, Mercury, Venus, Mars and Pluto are the key players.

Even without really delving in, I think the 5h is more dominant, considering the number of aspects it makes to other planets, especially the moon which is a luminary and an angle. My 6h is debilitated, even if it has power as the chart ruler. Aside from numbers, I think my greatest weakness is my inability to separate my emotions from logic. I let my emotions get in the way too often, which is also in line with what my nodal axis means (which by the way, also fits 12thhouser's theory where my 10h ruler conjuncts NN).

Am I on the right track, SSS? Or am I missing something on your theory?

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It suggests to me the energy of these two planets are very important in your thought processes since they are doubled.

posted July 01, 2013 03:12 PM            

Since I am predominantly R brained, venus as ruler of the 5th would make sense. But with mars in the 5th and also the ruler of the left brain.. well. Venus and Mars are planets that clash, right? I guess it shows how my logic and creative thoughts often get in the way of each other.

posted July 01, 2013 03:19 PM            

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StarlightSmileSupreme: Doesn't this mean you used his theory

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12thhouser: That's the point. What you've designated as left and right brain planets simply fit your chart, in your 10th and 11th house rulers, which was my theory.

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posted July 01, 2013 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
OHHHHH I see what's happening now. You're mistaken, 12thhouser! SSS, yeah, I tried his theory but the results weren't as accurate as my own.
Mercury represents the left brain and Venus, the right. But in your theory, 12thhouser, it was inverted for me, which is wrong. There's no relation between either theories except a coincidental house rulership.

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posted July 01, 2013 04:33 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
OHHHHH I see what's happening now. You're mistaken, 12thhouser! SSS, yeah, I tried his theory but the results weren't as accurate as my own.
Mercury represents the left brain and Venus, the right. But in your theory, 12thhouser, it was inverted for me, which is wrong. There's no relation between either theories except a coincidental house rulership.

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posted July 01, 2013 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Lunae:
Hmmm. I am not very adept when it comes to analysis, but I am pretty good with languages, which is a L brain trait. However, my actual learning style is very R brained-- I look at the big picture first before delving on the details, which the very reason why I tend to miss it. Instinct is also a big part of my thought processes (problem is, I don't usually follow them, even if it turns out right 90% of the time).

Since I am predominantly R brained, venus as ruler of the 5th would make sense. But with mars in the 5th and also the ruler of the left brain.. well. Venus and Mars are planets that clash, right? I guess it shows how my logic and creative thoughts often get in the way of each other.

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There seems to be balance though, because of the nature of opposites and you have double Venus/Mars. Your thoughts would center around happy things, you could have a lot of mental energy. Still have to figure out which hemisphere dominates. The houses can give an overall idea of how your thinking runs.

Then, there's the 3rd/9th house I didn't consider. Seems logical it would fit into the left/right brain theory somewhere. Maybe it's more than one pair of houses?

So far there's 5/11, 6/12, 3/9 and 4/10.

4/10 could be more about rational mind v emotional or illogical?

posted July 01, 2013 10:04 PM            

What if we do a frequency count of which hemisphere function appears more in all the axes? Since there are 6 axes, there could be a possibility of a tie, which could probably indicate balanced L and R hemispheric functions. The dominant axis/es would probably point to the most dominant type of thinking style and not the brain dominance per se.

posted July 01, 2013 10:07 PM            

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12thhouser: lol I'm not mistaken. The other thread felt my theory fit.

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posted July 01, 2013 10:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Lunae:
Lots of mental energy yes, but I think I'm more of a pessimist than an optimist honestly.

What if we do a frequency count of which hemisphere function appears more in all the axes? Since there are 6 axes, there could be a possibility of a tie, which could probably indicate balanced L and R hemispheric functions. The dominant axis/es would probably point to the most dominant type of thinking style and not the brain dominance per se.

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posted July 01, 2013 10:49 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
No you are mistaken because that's not what I'm talking about! You think our theories work together, but they don't necessarily!

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So basically what you want to do, SE, is say planets rather than houses rule the right and left hemispheres of the brain while 12thhouser and I say houses do and this is how your theory differs from ours? Do you consider the 10th and 11th houses at all?

Or wait a minute...I say it's houses, 12thhouser says Saturn and Uranus and you say Venus and Mercury. 12thhouser referenced 10th and 11th houses though. Do you reference any houses?

I do not reference planets in my theory, just planetary rulers of house cusps.

Actually, all of these make sense to me. I can see the logic in all three ideas. Mercury is cold logic, Venus isn't really creativity though, it works along with Saturn to provide structure and it's also considered in concepts like harmonization, isn't it? Look at the signs it rules. Also, remember, SE, the sun rules house 5 it is strongly associated with the creative drive, and this drive is thought to be a part of right brained thinking. Where does this fit into your theory? What about the sun if you are going to consider individual planets or luminaries?

posted July 02, 2013 02:36 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Mercury and Venus come together to serve the Sun. The Sun is creativity and contribution, and to create something, you can't just puke all your ideas out and hope it becomes something nice. Of course the left brain is involved in creativity, the right brain is but the fuel.

I don't reference houses because houses are areas of life. Everything comes from the planets, the signs shape and the houses direct.

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They all work together, planets, signs, and houses. I never excluded planets, I started with two--Saturn and Uranus. Those two planets naturally rule two houses, so I segued into houses from that. I started with planets. I just didn't end it there.