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Kerosene
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posted June 29, 2013 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The planet mars will replace earth so would become the placement of our sun if humans decided to repopulate on the surface..
Question, is a planet actually in a certain sign from earth or even in space it would be considered in that sign?

So if one day go to Mars and have Mars in Aries my Sun would be Libra on the martian surface? Maybe if I was born on mars..
I would imagine a persons nature would alter on a different planet.

I wonder what earth would represent..
Maybe earth would represent the moon?

galactic astrology sounds interesting.

Maybe heliocentric astrology will be the future if people keep on traveling in space.

What if someone is born on a spaceship...

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L0veLess
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posted June 29, 2013 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is so crazy!
born on a spaceship! just imagine if that spaceship was trillions of lightyears away would they be using the nearest planets as a birth chart? Or whatever native astrology is used on some foreign planet? o.O!
iiiinteressting thread that makes me wonder, this is!

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted June 29, 2013 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Humans need to find a planet further away from the sun, like in another solar system - that far away, to have a backup for earth. Mars is too close to the sun. Humans will probably waste a lot of time and money terraforming Mars anyway. Silly humans.

Not sure what the new astrology will be, Kero. I think it would be nifty if you could come up with an astrology for The New Space. You could even make yourself into a sign and personalize it.

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Kerosene
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posted June 29, 2013 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Humans need to find a planet further away from the sun, like in another solar system - that far away, to have a backup for earth. Mars is too close to the sun. Humans will probably waste a lot of time and money terraforming Mars anyway. Silly humans.

Not sure what the new astrology will be, Kero. I think it would be nifty if you could come up with an astrology for The New Space. You could even make yourself into a sign and personalize it.


Really.. well maybe not in our solar system..
HEH maybe when I die my corpse will be thrown into space possibly crystalized and become an astrological body.

What do you think about mars thou? Astrologically? Thats our next destination.
Within this century I definitely see people living on mars.

Well personally I have a sneaking suspicion that we're going to mars because they detected some valuable natural resources and need humans to check it out... I don't trust human nature, after all the reason they went to the new world was for gold lmao..

But as always they will need more people and eventually humans will settle there in weird space stations..

I'm surprised we have not made space stations on the surface of the moon.. weird..

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posted June 29, 2013 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Problem is, it's not practical. What is the point of being on the moon? The only reason, to study it. What other reason exists? It's not like it's hospitable. You are not going to see a lot of people living there.

Mars hasn't a magnetic field - number one problem. It is at the mercy of solar winds. If humans cannot find a way to create a magnetic field around Mars, solar winds will erode any atmospheric attempt made by man. Whatever is at Mar's core cannot generate such a field. Major obstacle for fully terraforming the Martian surface.

There could be colonists contained in a small, artificial environment, though.

However, The New Space could definitely have it's own signs and there are infinite number of planets. So, what are some ideas for these signs? What about that one dude you talked about? The one that looked like a Simpson morphed into a lobster? Maybe he's could be one?

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Kerosene
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posted June 29, 2013 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by L0veLess:
That is so crazy!
born on a spaceship! just imagine if that spaceship was trillions of lightyears away would they be using the nearest planets as a birth chart? Or whatever native astrology is used on some foreign planet? o.O!
iiiinteressting thread that makes me wonder, this is!

Maybe there are zodiac constellations in another solar systems.
Possibly where sentient beings exist.
I honestly think anything that is conceived in our head can possibly exist.
I don't believe in new ideas, someone has thought of it.
That's always been really strange to me.

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Kerosene
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posted June 29, 2013 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Problem is, it's not practical. What is the point of being on the moon? The only reason, to study it. What other reason exists? It's not like it's hospitable. You are not going to see a lot of people living there.

Mars hasn't a magnetic field - number one problem. It is at the mercy of solar winds. If humans cannot find a way to create a magnetic field around Mars, solar winds will erode any atmospheric attempt made by man. Whatever is at Mar's core cannot generate such a field. Major obstacle for fully terraforming the Martian surface.

There could be colonists contained in a small, artificial environment, though.

However, The New Space could definitely could definitely have it's own signs and there are infinite number of planets. So, what are some ideas for these signs? What about that one dude you talked about? The one that looked like a Simpson morphed into a lobster? Maybe he's could be one?


The moon is the stepping stone to the space travel...
I think it's sad we can't vist the moon..

Instead of spending money on pointless wars why not focus on evolving, creating technological advances.
Especially ways for colonization, a bio dome method could possibly work
Space travel is not easy either.. How do we expect to adapt if we don't learn how to exist in harsh environments.
What will happen when earth becomes inhospitable, which will inevitably happen..


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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted June 29, 2013 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What we should focus on as as species is ways to travel through interstellar space, to successfully exist there for thousands of generations constantly exploring. Forget about terraforming and all this waste of time and money. Focus on that big journey. That's where the pay off is.

We need to successfully navigate space in a CGE (Contained Gravitational Environment.) That should be our number one goal and priority.

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posted June 29, 2013 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It'd be interesting to see Martian natal charts. Mercury, Venus, AND the Earth would all orbit the Sun, then the Moon would be orbiting the Earth...hmmmm...I might return to this thread later lmfao!

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posted June 29, 2013 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dun dun dunnnn!

Here's a link and a little description for Habitable Earths!
http://www.sciencecodex.com/astronomers_detect_3_superearths_in_nearby_stars_habitable_zone-114809

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"The three planets in the habitable zone are roughly Earth-sized, and only about three to four times the mass of the Earth," said Steven Vogt, University of California, Santa Cruz astronomy and astrophysics professor who is on a team with Paul Butler of the Carnegie Institution of Washington's Department of Terrestrial Magnetism that made this discovery.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted June 29, 2013 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's sooooo many things to consider there, Ms Prism! That's an entirely other topic altogether. Just because they are in the Goldilocks doesn't really say much about what's there.

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posted June 29, 2013 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrystratosphere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:

galactic astrology sounds interesting.

Maybe heliocentric astrology will be the future if people keep on traveling in space.


maybe. there so much to think about once you start thinking about the basics of it on a bigger scale. i guess there are different views of it from different points, space and time.

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Kerosene
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posted June 29, 2013 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ somethingexllecent
The moon wouldn't count if we lived in mars because it's a small body that orbits the earth.

So i'm assuming the earth will represent the qualities our moon does. Earth is like our mother.

I would imagine the Sun, Earth and Asc will be the most important.

I'm also assuming our placement for sun will be extremely important because it represents Mars too.

Honestly, I wonder what a martian society would be like...

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posted June 29, 2013 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about a Martian moon? Or two?

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Kerosene
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posted June 29, 2013 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG...
i forgot mars had moons.
WOAH.
This got exciting.

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posted June 29, 2013 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
There's sooooo many things to consider there, Ms Prism! That's an entirely other topic altogether. Just because they are in the Goldilocks doesn't really say much about what's there.

But but but I just wanted to add to the thread and be somebody!

Haha I'm kidding. I really wouldn't know where the heck to start if we were going to answer the OP's question. It's funny though because a naysayer of Astrology asked me the same question the other day and my answer was "All I can do now with Astrology is apply it to experiences I have had and test it for consistency. What you ask is impossible for me to test, therefore I have no answer to your question."

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posted June 29, 2013 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars has two known moons, Phobos and Deimos.

What would really be cool is if humans could live on one of Jupiter's moons, or Saturn's.

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Kerosene
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posted June 29, 2013 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^
Feel free to mention other topics that relate to space travel/astrology.
I'm having, dinner. I'll look at your post later.

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posted June 29, 2013 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MsPrism:
But but but I just wanted to add to the thread and be somebody!

Haha I'm kidding. I really wouldn't know where the heck to start if we were going to answer the OP's question. It's funny though because a naysayer of Astrology asked me the same question the other day and my answer was "All I can do now with Astrology is apply it to experiences I have had and test it for consistency. What you ask is impossible for me to test, therefore I have no answer to your question."



Just think, if we charted more space, there could be infinite volumes written of The New Astrology. Once we conquer CGEs and interstellar space travel, there will be so much to see and explore. It will be truly extraordinarily exciting. Volumes upon volumes will be written at a pace no human mind can keep with. Just about every person on earth could be like Charles Darwin or Aristotle, discovering and categorizing previously undiscovered species from so many places. Getting to them's the hard part and we don't want to clash with the wrong species, either.

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posted June 29, 2013 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Problem is, it's not practical. What is the point of being on the moon? The only reason, to study it. What other reason exists?




Helium-3 as fuel for Fusion Reactors. Of course, if fusion reactors ever become economically viable...

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posted June 29, 2013 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Helium-3 as fuel for Fusion Reactors. Of course, if fusion reactors ever become economically viable...

That's a good point but it's just not enough to get many people there. It would be a mining operation requiring workers and other personnel. Then, you have to get the Helium 3 back here. Any ideas?

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posted June 29, 2013 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Mars has two known moons, Phobos and Deimos.

What would really be cool is if humans could live on one of Jupiter's moons, or Saturn's.


That's quite far from mother earth.
Also the amount of asteroids that go thou jupiter & saturn are deadly.
Jupiter & saturn actually protect us from deadly asteroids

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posted June 29, 2013 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
That's a good point but it's just not enough to get many people there. It would be a mining operation requiring workers and other personnel. Then, you have to get the Helium 3 back here. Any ideas?

robotsssss. or AI/auto transportion.
maybe a few brave souls command the mines, and make sure everything is running.

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posted June 29, 2013 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's asteroids that hit the planets but what about the moons? Do they get hit that often? Good point though. Don't want to go to all the trouble only to get wiped out!

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posted June 29, 2013 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BIG THEORISING BELOW you have been warned...

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Kerosene: The moon wouldn't count if we lived in mars because it's a small body that orbits the earth.
So i'm assuming the earth will represent the qualities our moon does. Earth is like our mother.

Okay let's see I just opened my imagination and let everything leak out, like paint. About the planets, what we name them is what they represent, and everything we find about them relates to what they represent. Earth/Gaia is the goddess of the earth, opposite of Uranus who is the god of the sky.

Uranus is change and innovation, so I think Earth in a natal chart would represent fertility and thriving. I think it would make a perfect duo with the Moon, which is emotion and comfort. The two in a natal chart could show both our emotions, our comfort zones and memories, and when we're at our best and most natural (think home life). And more importantly as a connection between the two, on Earth, we relate the Moon to our past, and as a duo, this would entirely fit - the Earth is where we as humans came from.

Being that Earth would orbit the Sun, it fits as our desire to domesticate and bring forth enrichment would focus on ourselves. Mercury is structure and data, Venus is ideals and value, Earth might be shaping and domesticating.

Mercury is the walls, Venus is the paint, Earth is the furniture. The house itself is the Sun. !

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Kerosene: i forgot mars had moons.
This got exciting.

Omfg I forgot that as well!!!! Phobos and Deimos, fear and panic, flight or fight. The two could overtake Mars' representation of drive and action. Phobos being fear could represent retreating and more broadly, introspecting while Deimos in a chart could show assertion and more broadly, action. Where they are placed could determine how we retreat or assert and what would make us want to retreat or assert.

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