posted July 16, 2013 11:52 PM            

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MsPrism: Aboriginal... are you Australian?

How random if we were neighbors or something. I'm not from Aussie but I'm currently residing here.

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Lmfao!!!!! Well, I took Aboriginal to be applicable to Native Americans too. Or at least it's used often enough...

I thought of that once! I was like. Any one of these people on this site might be my neighbour...

posted July 16, 2013 11:59 PM            

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What description would suffice for a conjunction to the IC?

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The quotes from Sasportas is a smart start.

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Neptune/IC – Hopeful – You tend to be upright, principled, and high-minded (quixotic). You have a positive approach to life which looks to the good sides of people and events without being naïve or easily gulled.

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I have IC @ 18 Sagittarius, and Neptune @ 19 Sagittarius, but ^^ doesn't capture the aspect to me.

Once I named my apt., The Buddhist Temple.

posted July 17, 2013 12:02 AM            

Lol..

I admit it, that fits pretty well..

posted July 17, 2013 12:12 AM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Lmfao!!!!! Well, I took Aboriginal to be applicable to Native Americans too. Or at least it's used often enough...

I thought of that once! I was like. Any one of these people on this site might be my neighbour...

Have you seen a 6 foot tall, androgynous person with long dark hair and cowboy boots walking around town?

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Hahaha I'm a recluse, I only see the people walking past my house and I'm completely suspicious of them! I kid I kid! I'm the worst for acknowledging people or their appearance. When I'm out, everything is kinda hazy and dreamy, if you know what I mean.

I had a feeling you meant Aboriginal in the general sense. What kind of Native American do you have in you? I have Nez Perce and Cherokee.

posted July 17, 2013 12:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
I admit it, that fits pretty well..

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Hey Lioness, could you tell me if this does, please?

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Saturn conjunct IC can occasionally indicate that the individual is hampered in the pursuit of their vocation by heavy family responsibilities or unresolved family issues. For many with this combination, home and family is equated with duty and responsibility, which the individual may or may not feel comfortable with. There may have been fear around the early home life, perhaps fear of a parent, sometimes lack of a parent or fear concerning the individual’s origins. People with Saturn on the IC often desperately seem to need a secure home base; a home and a foundation that is solid and cannot be taken away. Conversely some people with Saturn on the IC are frightened of putting down roots; they see permanence and security as stifling or restrictive and inevitably would have had an early experience that helped to shape this view. Whatever the issues there is usually some kind of fear attached to the issue of one’s roots. This is an ideal placement for people who build solid foundations in a physical sense; I have seen it in the charts of builders for example. Whilst there may be fear attached to the idea, the purpose of this combination is perhaps concerned with the slow excavation of one’s emotional and familial origins.

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posted July 17, 2013 12:28 AM            

But anyways my mother is Ojibwe and my father is Mohawk with like a quarter French. My mum always thought that it was funny because the Ojibwe were really peaceful and spiritual while the Mohawk were reclusive and violent. She said they'd outright attack anyone who even came near their family/tribe/settlement.

posted July 17, 2013 12:32 AM            

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Originally posted by MsPrism:
Hey Lioness, could you tell me if this does, please?

[QUOTE]Saturn conjunct IC can occasionally indicate that the individual is hampered in the pursuit of their vocation by heavy family responsibilities or unresolved family issues. For many with this combination, home and family is equated with duty and responsibility, which the individual may or may not feel comfortable with. There may have been fear around the early home life, perhaps fear of a parent, sometimes lack of a parent or fear concerning the individual’s origins. People with Saturn on the IC often desperately seem to need a secure home base; a home and a foundation that is solid and cannot be taken away. Conversely some people with Saturn on the IC are frightened of putting down roots; they see permanence and security as stifling or restrictive and inevitably would have had an early experience that helped to shape this view. Whatever the issues there is usually some kind of fear attached to the issue of one’s roots. This is an ideal placement for people who build solid foundations in a physical sense; I have seen it in the charts of builders for example. Whilst there may be fear attached to the idea, the purpose of this combination is perhaps concerned with the slow excavation of one’s emotional and familial origins.

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Yes it fits very well.. The only thing I didn't agree with is

Conversely some people with Saturn on the IC are frightened of putting down roots; they see permanence and security as stifling

I need stability, and security..
But I also have cancer Venus in h4

posted July 17, 2013 12:58 AM            

but, it's a bit too early to really see how much a loner he might be later on... doubtful though, far too gregarious to go long without a group around him, even if they are doing their own things. Far too much fire to keep him settled for long. ~centaur dominant like his parents, Leo ASC - Saturn 1h sxt IC-Moon, and domicile Jupiter 5h sxt IC-Moon = this kid is bouncing off the walls night and day... but he does wear his heart on his sleeve, or palm of his hand I like to think... which could be a bit of that Lunar-IC action... he extends his heart to everyone he meets, which is making it very difficult to teach him that not every person on this planet is his family or friend... (not to talk to strangers...) ugh good gravy, I wish he'd not introduce himself to everyone on the street. ~___~;

My husband also has (Sag) IC cnj Neptune-Venus, Mercury in the 4th.

I can definitely see the way it is expressed for him~ it also lies cnj his S.Node -

His pIC is cnj Sun and Mercury I believe, with Venus and Mars in his p4h. My hope is when pMars hops into his 5h that he doesn't start acting all rabbit-like on me... but, with my luck... I don't mind his IC placements... our relationship revolves around our 4h dominance and stelli (individual and united by composite).

The only body cnj my natal IC is Uranus and that's a wide one at best. Although, that first description does fit extremely well... that can be attributed to everything in my 4th house overall. lol (Right?)

4h dominant, Sag dominant, domicile Jupiter, Neptune, Venus, domicile S.Node and Uranus all there... it's a very emphasized area. (I really want to test my luck with real estate... /sigh - not now though...)

By progression though, I actually have Neptune dead on my IC~ which is... different. It's a recent change, so I'm only just beginning to feel the effects from it switching into Capricorn. I can't say whether I like it or not though... right now... I'm leaning towards dislike. lol I like My wide arse nUranus cnj IC much better. I thrive in chaos... it suits me.

Pluto is transiting Capricorn, natal 4/5h - I'm not quite "myself" lately - I think natal/progression are both being sorta' masked or taken in all at once... which is why I've been keeping to myself so much. The IC is the safezone... everyone outside of that safezone just seems flippin' crazy to me lately... (even if I may actually be the crazy one in reality... XD we'll see...) Transitions through the IC are so important... <3

Anyway... thank you for sharing these excerpts and starting this thread!~!!! (gotta check back when I'm more... "awake" instead of just coffee driven... haha)

~sorry for rambling... <3 g'night/g'day all!

posted July 17, 2013 04:09 AM            

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LMAO "COMPLETELY SUSPICIOUS"...I almost wanna live like that! Sneer out through my shutters and close them suddenly if someone looks at me.

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Haha that reminds me of Monster House!

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
But anyways my mother is Ojibwe and my father is Mohawk with like a quarter French. My mum always thought that it was funny because the Ojibwe were really peaceful and spiritual while the Mohawk were reclusive and violent. She said they'd outright attack anyone who even came near their family/tribe/settlement.

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Wow, that does sound pretty violent! Your parents are creating a balance between harsh and fluffy, it's beautiful!

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I notice as many people as I can, mentally at least. I have like radar for scoping out people I'm attracted to...one of the descriptions for Aquarius Moon said they can be amorous, and infatuations are basically a hobby for me.

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posted July 17, 2013 04:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
Yes it fits very well.. The only thing I didn't agree with is

-Conversely some people with Saturn on the IC are frightened of putting down roots; they see permanence and security as stifling-

I need stability, and security..
But I also have cancer Venus in h4

My Saturn/IC in gem

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Oh I see.

posted July 17, 2013 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by MsPrism:
Oh I see.

Thank you for telling me about your experience, it really helps!

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No prob.

posted July 17, 2013 04:17 PM            

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Originally posted by MsPrism:

@Hera, could you tell me if this fits at all, please?

[b]Venus conjunct IC

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Venus on either end of the MC– IC axis may be descriptive of the experience of their own parent( s) as being very loving or popular. For others it may be more descriptive of a parent’s vocational activities or their wishes for the career of the child. Frequently a parent is experienced as being a very sexual kind of person and I have frequently seen Venus conjunct the IC as being descriptive of a parent who pursued secret extramarital affairs.

Venus on the IC often suggests that the individual comes from a background which had money; there is a feeling of a ‘good’ home with this placement and the idea of ‘good home’ can be interpreted on a number of levels. Ideally it should perhaps mean a warm and loving environment and the absence of hard aspects to Venus conjunct IC may well indicate this. Certainly there are usually at least some aspects of the individual’s ancestry or background that they value very highly. People with this placement want to create a beautiful home themselves, a place with harmonious colours and pleasing music perhaps and certainly one as free as possible from emotional discord.

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posted July 17, 2013 04:18 PM            

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Originally posted by MsPrism:
Hey Lioness, could you tell me if this does, please?

[QUOTE]Saturn conjunct IC can occasionally indicate that the individual is hampered in the pursuit of their vocation by heavy family responsibilities or unresolved family issues. For many with this combination, home and family is equated with duty and responsibility, which the individual may or may not feel comfortable with. There may have been fear around the early home life, perhaps fear of a parent, sometimes lack of a parent or fear concerning the individual’s origins. People with Saturn on the IC often desperately seem to need a secure home base; a home and a foundation that is solid and cannot be taken away. Conversely some people with Saturn on the IC are frightened of putting down roots; they see permanence and security as stifling or restrictive and inevitably would have had an early experience that helped to shape this view. Whatever the issues there is usually some kind of fear attached to the issue of one’s roots. This is an ideal placement for people who build solid foundations in a physical sense; I have seen it in the charts of builders for example. Whilst there may be fear attached to the idea, the purpose of this combination is perhaps concerned with the slow excavation of one’s emotional and familial origins.

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This is exactly how it feels for me. As another Saturn-IC person: thank you! I know it wasn't for me, but your quote caught my attention ^^ I also prefer stability rather than being afraid of it. My IC is in Capricorn.

Oh boy, long list ahead.

"Moon/IC – Whole-hearted – You are sensitive and tenacious, and responsive primarily to your own inner voice (solipsistic). You are self-reliant and prefer being alone and on your own in life."

I'm so sensitive, it's not good for me. Though I can be by myself, it's not always my first choice, so I'm not sure I relate to wanting to be on my own. I do need some alone time at home to get my energy back. Giving a lot with my Cancer MC means I need my private time now and then.

"Neptune/IC – Hopeful – You tend to be upright, principled, and high-minded (quixotic). You have a positive approach to life which looks to the good sides of people and events without being naïve or easily gulled."

Yes, I do want to think the best of anyone I meet. I hate being paranoid and reading into everything. And I'm a daydreamer 24/7, haha. My dad is a musician (nothing big or anything) and he was not really there emotionally when I grew up (I've read this is the case for Neptune-IC).

"Uranus/IC – Fearless – You are dynamic, resourceful, and free-thinking (wrong-headed). You have a capacity for plunging ahead and making sudden, drastic changes in your environment and life-style whenever your life situation becomes too restrictive."

True. As a major people-pleaser, there have been times I've had enough and did a 180, rebelling hard against everyone. And I was the big weirdo as a teenager. I felt smothered by the constant pressure on me to fit in, be nice, follow all the social rules perfectly while still being waltzed all over. Every time I put my foot down, it started with a major meltdown (very Uranian too).

"Ruler IC conjunct IC – Self-cloistering – You are friendly and sociable, but fundamentally are a loner, and you find sustained contact with other people grating or enervating (self-pampering). You are happiest and do your best work alone, on your own."

Yeah. Well, I don't relate. I do end up alone often, but not by choice. [I've talked so much about this here, I want to keep it short.]

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kinda off topic but do You have any info about planets conj MC? I've been looking around and it's pretty crappy online... I got mars, lilith and NN, bad situation

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posted February 06, 2017 05:03 PM            

My IC is ruled by Uranus and I'm a Pisces.
Moon/Mercury conjunct IC in late degree and Venus in progression is conjunct as well

I can heavily identify with fourth house energy. I enjoy my peace, I like to be alone, sometimes to a fault. I am very quiet, self-aware, self-disciplined, stubborn and unyielding.

posted February 07, 2017 01:09 PM            

Hmm I would give this placement extra attention in your chart. Both the heart(Sun) and spirit(Mars) are on the Ic.

Mars is the slower moving planet and thus influences the Sun.So you have a very sharp(Mars) sense of self(Sun). You know what and who you are.

One way that this could manifest is make you someone who is not afraid to go at it alone. And you may even seem very arrogant to others.

But it can also make you very touchy and combative when someone tries to get in your way, tell you what to do or modify you in some way. Because you know yourself to be "enough" as is.

Mars on the Sun makes personality expression very important to you and the concept of absolute freedom to be yourself is a trait you share with Aries folks (Asc ,Sun and Moon)

My Mars square my Ic literally as well as its ruler (Moon), I have had a terrible relationship with my Dad. He was a very aggressive man.

So with this position, I wonder if one of your parents has strong Aries traits? Perhaps in the military? Was cut off from you abruptly? Or you have a turbulent relationship with one of them?

Mars on the Ic also suggests that you may have:

-changed homes a lot.Mars/Moon/ Merc /Jupiter and Uranus have itchy feet.

- wanted to move out of home ASAP and assert your independence

-found that your parents made it a point to settle far away from relatives and go at it alone( perhaps even had conflicts with their own parents).

Mars on the Ic is a "pioneer" to domestic stuff i.e settle and build a home on new land and at worst may even suggest domestic instability or violence.

My Dad (the one I have trouble with) has Venus/Mars/Pluto conjunct and Aries on the South Node.

He was a man that was easily irritable and would beat us when we were kids. So we feared him a great deal.

Do you have camouflage bedding or curtains/pillow cases with a military theme? Or does your personal space have posters of fast cars,books about war/combat,guns or even gym equipment lying around?

Mars on the Ic also suggests that you may have a sign up in your room that reads "Enter at own risk" As you may be very territorial about you own private space and home inside the home etc.

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posted February 09, 2017 03:11 PM            

I have it also cnj. Neptune by 5