posted July 18, 2013 11:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Has anyone else noticed this odd behaviour in mutable men (or possibly women)?

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posted July 18, 2013 11:55 AM            

Now I remember an experience that reminds me of what Odette posted...when I was younger, I was at my friend's aunt's house and they were playing quarters and similar games. I kept losing so I had to drink up soon I was very wasted. I got into an argument with somebody there and left, went to a store where another friend worked. Next day he told me I looked completely different drunk, like a totally different person, he would not recognize me. My sun sign is Virgo.

Is this the type of thing you are referring to, Odette? If so, then I sorta know what you are talking about but it didn't change my personality forever.

posted July 19, 2013 08:23 AM            

Stay away from drugs, kids.

He was a pisces sun aqua moon venus and mars, cancer rising

posted July 19, 2013 08:37 AM              

The only mutable men i date are Virgo's

posted March 16, 2014 06:57 AM            

I am pretty creeped out right now and I have to share this with you.

I've read more about the Ted Bundy story - his background, the trials, the murder scenarios etc . I've never actually sat down and read about this in detail. I only knew the 'big picture' - the things we all might've heard.
I stumbled upon his case - when I was looking up an article on Venus retrograde (which he had in his natal). It was incidental that I started reading about him.

Long story cut short - the reason I am so creeped out are the following quotes from his wiki page:

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Other significant obstacles for law enforcement were Bundy's generic, essentially anonymous physical features,[273] and a curious chameleon-like ability to change his appearance almost at will.[274] Early on, police complained of the futility of showing his photograph to witnesses; he looked different in virtually every photo ever taken of him.[275] In person, "... his expression would so change his whole appearance that there were moments that you weren't even sure you were looking at the same person," said Stewart Hanson, Jr., the judge in the DaRonch trial. "He [was] really a changeling."[276] Bundy was well aware of this unusual quality and he exploited it, using subtle modifications of facial hair or hairstyle to significantly alter his appearance as necessary.[277] He concealed his one distinctive identifying mark, a dark mole on his neck, with turtleneck shirts and sweaters.[278] Even his Volkswagen Beetle proved difficult to pin down; its color was variously described by witnesses as metallic or non-metallic, tan or bronze, light brown or dark brown

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Bundy underwent multiple psychiatric examinations; the experts' conclusions varied. Dorothy Otnow Lewis, Professor of Psychiatry at the New York University School of Medicine and an authority on violent behavior, initially made a diagnosis of bipolar disorder,[299] but later changed her impression more than once.[3][300] She also suggested the possibility of a multiple personality disorder, based on behaviors described in interviews and court testimony: A great-aunt witnessed an episode during which Bundy "... seemed to turn into another, unrecognizable person ... [she] suddenly, inexplicably found herself afraid of her favorite nephew as they waited together at a dusk-darkened train station. He had turned into a stranger."[19] Lewis recounted a prison official in Tallahassee describing a similar transformation: "He said, 'He became weird on me.' He did a metamorphosis, a body and facial change, and he felt there was almost an odor emitting from him. He said, 'Almost a complete change of personality ... that was the day I was afraid of him.'"[301] Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) has also been proposed in at least one subsequent retrospective analysis.

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THIS ^^^

OMG - I can't get over it. It's exactly what I was describing in my OP on this thread.
The crazy chameleon personality changes - and the changes in facial expression. I can't believe how these people (referring to Ted Bundy's case) are describing the exact same thing I noticed - and Bundy was a mutable sign - Sagittarius with mutable Sag Mars...
This can't be pure coincidence.

It is just strange that they are even using the same kinds of words I used in my posts here (and when I posted this thread, I didn't know these details about Ted Bundy at all).

I am not suggesting the people I referred to in the initial post are psychopaths.. or that they would do something illegal. I am just wondering what kind of psychological disorder or drug addiction etc... justifies and explains such personality changes.
The psychologists working on the Bundy case were not able to come to an agreement regarding his condition.

posted March 16, 2014 07:12 AM            

Itīs scary as all hell!!

posted March 16, 2014 07:31 AM            

My mother calls me Jekyll and Hyde sometimes, and that I'm like a Gemini. (she has a little bit of an stereotypical understanding of Astrology) So I tell her that I act like a Gemini because I have a Gemini Moon.

I'm a lot like what Kerosene described in his first paragraph. (my friend noticed it as well)

I have never done any substance abuse, though. So I cannot tell you what people around me experienced with that aspect...

posted March 17, 2014 06:35 PM            

I am a Pisces who used mind alterting substances in the past, but interstingly I never had issues in terms of my personality changing, in fact I felt that my personality was enhanced/better and even received comments from sober people as such.

Granted I do have my Sun in Pisces along with Jupiter conjunct Venus which I think leads one to be very sound personality wise.

I don't know if it's just limited to mutuable men, but rather it comes down to one's ability to know one's self and be confident in your core identity.