posted July 19, 2013 11:38 AM            

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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
I actually don't think Pisces is a loner though (well...there is an exception). I feel like Pisces always strives to be in relationships but always ends up being disillusioned and disappointed. I used to know a Pisces girl that began her personal relationships at a very early age and everything would always collapse and still continues to no matter what relationship she is in, but she really craves love and thinks that suffering is all a part of it.
That girl would go to extremes, she would get men into bed with her at the age of 12 because she thought she was in love...! Guess what now more than 10 years later she is still alone.
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posted July 19, 2013 11:46 AM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
some thoughts...

pisces women are considered as being one...or the most feminine, carrying this feminine vulnerability...
the way that the men go back to your friend and how they want to protect her may have to do more with that...
generally speaking, men are highly attracted and desire to protect and care for that feminine ideal.

another thing, maybe, she is one of those women who ends up being the 'transitory chick'
as in, it happens that some women, and men, have this unfortunate or fortunate role to shape or influence their partners, so their partners are ready for the next one.
i recall reading a thread on this here, and an article on this too: about the woman who men never married, yet, the man had gone through a realisation and transformation after being with her..
the 'transitory' woman (or man) is at fault here too because she indirectly becomes 'the teacher' (upper position) and he, the student (bottom position, talking about default hierarchy here) and not so much an equal, thus that is the way the man may end up seeing her...

imo, it is not a one-sided issue, i think that if one's relationships often fail, then, there must be something within yourself that is responsible for that too.

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O I def feel like the transition chick

posted July 19, 2013 11:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Well I don't mean to say that my friend is totally perfect, no one is, but she is very unfortunate in love.

And yes, it's pretty obvious in her life, that this applies:

[QUOTE]...it happens that some women, and men, have this unfortunate or fortunate role to shape or influence their partners, so their partners are ready for the next one.

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She keeps asking me, and basically everyone else, "WHAT do I need to learn to be able to hang onto a relationship that matters to me?" and no one can think of what to tell her. [/QUOTE]

posted July 20, 2013 10:36 AM            

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Originally posted by LionFish:
I'm a Pisces Sun/Merc with an Aries Venus and Neptune square Venus.

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Sorry to be making my friend so much of a centerpiece here, but she is also Pisces sun/Merc with Aries Venus.

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Originally posted by LionFish:
I do the same as your friend and forgive and try to help with problems that arise instead of just walking away, because I do love with all of my heart when I am truly in love It's usually in these relationships where it ends with "I'm not good enough for you" or "You deserve somebody who can treat you better."

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I've done that, too, just tried to help instead of leaving (must be my Pisces moon), but they never said I'm too good for them. I must not be as classy as a "real" Pisces. LOL

My husband, yeah, he still needs my help.

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Originally posted by LionFish:

Does your friend want to be married? Truly? Sometimes we can push away from exactly what we're projecting that we want because it's not truly our heart's desire, but rather what people expect us to want.

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Hmmm...good point. I think she does want to be married but she isn't going to settle. For example, a lot of these ex boyfriends are still interested in her, but the way they dumped her the first time prevents any re-kindling of the old fires.

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Originally posted by LionFish:
Good thoughts and wishes going her way

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posted July 20, 2013 10:52 AM            

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Originally posted by mockingbird:
^ I've had that a few times.
"I'm not good enough for you."
"You're too smart for me."
And even, "You're too independent. I need someone who needs me more."

I always just figured they were fairly typical cop outs.

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Ha! Maybe they are. I just don't remember hearing them myself. I got stuff like, "I would like to marry you, but first I need to sow my wild oats." LOL

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Originally posted by mockingbird:

Some (probably not very objective) observations:
* We tend to idealize partners.
* We're very forgiving - often to a fault.
* We can tend to be a bit passive/accepting.
* No matter how much we love you, we still reserve a part of ourselves for our own little worlds. We need to maintain a strong connection to our private places (our "mind palaces" to steal a term, though they may be more akin to "soul palaces") or we become neurotic and needy.

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All of this strikes me as very true about Pisces...the ones I know.

And I just want to add, to all Pisces: *thank you* for the forgiveness. I really think my life would be completely different if it weren't for my Pisces friends.

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Originally posted by mockingbird:
[Edited to add: When we spend too much of our time there, we become impossibly passive - what's the real world matter, really? - and completely unreliable.]

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Oooo I feel like that, too! Maybe this is a Pisces moon thing as well.

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Originally posted by mockingbird:
The partners of some Pisces resent this intensely private place, so we'll visit less frequently in order to please them.
This is always a bad thing.

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*nods*

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Originally posted by mockingbird:
So, it's possible for us.
Just perhaps a bit more difficult than for some more stoic and resolved types.

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I'm so happy you found your man! The guy she's recovering from has a lot of those qualities except the bit about appreciating her intellect...he's a hot shot Leo lawyer, you get the idea.

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Originally posted by mockingbird:
Taurean Venus in the 7th conj (gasp) Chiron

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