posted July 20, 2013 01:18 AM            

"Listen. I'm not interested in Astrology anymore, I'm sorry. My religion in Christianity and my Christian relatives told me that Astrology is witchcraft to our God. I'm very sorry, but I want to stand with my God."

Religion is poison. That's all I've got to say.

She was so into it. Her chart even says so. I don't think she'll ever escape the world of Astrology. She's addicted.

posted July 20, 2013 01:29 AM            

My father is like this and all I can really say is that it sucks.

posted July 20, 2013 02:01 AM            

To each, their own. I never tried to get her back, if christianity floats her boat then fine. She however tried to convince me orthodoxy is the only true religion.

Needless to say, eventually we went our separate ways.

posted July 20, 2013 02:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
She however tried to convince me orthodoxy is the only true religion.

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I love those words put together "only true" meaning that everything else is false. Awesome! We're clones!

It just really sucks when people lay that kind of thing on you.

I'm sorry Hera.
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That's really interesting though. Pluto conjunct Neptune transit. Pluto is extremes and Neptune is spirituality. Thanks for explaining your experience!

EDIT: @Kero

You always make me laugh but yes, my face has never become so red as when I try to explain something remotely spiritual to a staunch atheist.

*sigh* Isn't your motto "Science is all about unbiased testing." *angry face*

posted July 20, 2013 02:23 AM            

There's a lot of information of how the church used astrology before they condemned it. Maybe If they'd open up their secret library we'd see all about the astrology. Remember. These are the same people who tried Gaileo because he proved the Earth Was the center of the solar system etc. They didn't like science either. That was evil too.

"By the end of his trial, Galileo was forced to recant his own scientific findings as "abjured, cursed and detested," a renunciation that caused him great personal anguish but which saved him from being burned at the stake." He was charged as a heretic.

It only took them 350 years to say they were wrong about that. And it happened in 1992 not like, 1600. 1992...Vatican: "oh, yeah, guess we were wrong about that Gaileo thing, the church now officially declares that the Earth does indeed revolve around the sun after all." Gee, ya think. Buncha geniuses they are. We should believe everything they say!

I guess all of us were heretics for believing the earth revolves around the sun up until 1992. Remember your science courses in grade school? You sinned so bad believing all that earth nonsense. We were all going straight to hell until 1992 until the Vatican said it was ok. We have been cleansed officially of that atrocious sin we all committed as children. Maybe in a few years they'll admit that the tides are really controlled by the moon too. That would be swell. That cheesy "swell" pun was intended my fellow heretics.

Anyway, all kidding aside, Maybe your natal chart is how God maps out your fate and destiny -- like a system. His plan for you. It makes as much sense as the immaculate conception, maybe more, and I'm catholic so...

posted July 20, 2013 04:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Lunae:
I'm a Christian and I LOVE Astrology.

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I was raised a Christian and I.. am not sure where exactly I stand about the whole thing.
Obviously I'm into astrology but I've thought about quitting, several times.
I feel conflicted when it comes to my beliefs, one side of me is almost fanatical, and the other one is more open-minded.

posted July 20, 2013 04:50 AM            

I don't think Christianity and Astrology is that conflicting, imo.

posted July 20, 2013 05:03 AM            

If that was aimed at me, thank you.

Lunae,

posted July 20, 2013 05:07 AM            

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Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.

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posted July 20, 2013 05:09 AM            

There's a lot more deserving users like Lunae and Jessica!!!
I shall gladly take the role of the chosen one if you see fit haha

I have no planets in the 9th house, I tend to believe all religions have some truth to them. I believe the greek gods were alien super humans, but that's just me.

posted July 20, 2013 05:58 AM            

I believe God gave us astrology, tarot, etc. so we could find our modern day "angels" on earth to help us.

I also believe he gave us the wisdom of science and doctors too. I believe 'big pharma' is mostly evil/money-driven (because healing comes from the earth, IMO) but I also believe God gave us a strong level of discernment to make our own choices about how to care for our earthly bodies.

posted July 20, 2013 07:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
Another Christian who loves astrology.

I believe God gave us astrology, tarot, etc. so we could find our modern day "angels" on earth to help us.

I also believe he gave us the wisdom of science and doctors too. I believe 'big pharma' is mostly evil/money-driven (because healing comes from the earth, IMO) but I also believe God gave us a strong level of discernment to make our own choices about how to care for our earthly bodies.

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posted July 20, 2013 07:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Lunae:
I'm a Christian and I LOVE Astrology.

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Same here.

posted July 20, 2013 07:48 AM            

My chart ruler is Neptune in 9th House in Scorpio. I'm supposed to dedicate my life to God.

If the ruler of Scorpio is Pluto, then mine is in Virgo in 7th House, which means my marriage is built on Christianity, and I'm cheating on my wife with LL.

If the ruler of Scorpio is Mars, then mine is in Capricorn in my 11th House.

posted July 20, 2013 10:00 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
It's incompatible. I'm conflicted and confused.

My chart ruler is Neptune in 9th House in Scorpio. I'm supposed to dedicate my life to God.

If the ruler of Scorpio is Pluto, then mine is in Virgo in 7th House, which means my marriage is built on Christianity, and I'm cheating on my wife with LL.

If the ruler of Scorpio is Mars, then mine is in Capricorn in my 11th House.

Anyway, there is a ton of Biblical scripture against astrology. For whatever references you can pull up about wise men, etc., I can pull up five references against, and almost all are irrefutable.

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The neptune in 9th shows your deception and confusion in religion. Ruler in 7th can show fights over it since its Pluto. Maybe you shouldn't be into astrology until you know if you're 100% ok with it or until your wife is ok with it?

It's more than the wise men. I felt I'd written enough already so I left a lot out and I was also laughing and making fun of them for their hypocrisy instead of being serious and listing lots of contrary facts that they're full of it. The church used to have astrologers and practice it actually. There are many who think they still practice it. The Vatican has some of the best astrology books ever written but they're kept secret in the secret archives. They only made it Heresy later when they decided to change their mind about it like they change their minds about basically everything. What it means is that they felt they were losing influence which in Vatican terms means money.

posted July 20, 2013 10:03 PM            

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My religion in Christianity and my Christian relatives told me that Astrology is witchcraft to our God.

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posted July 20, 2013 10:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Lily:
The neptune in 9th shows your deception and confusion in religion. Ruler in 7th can show fights over it since its Pluto. Maybe you shouldn't be into astrology until you know if you're 100% ok with it or until your wife is ok with it?

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I must admit that you've struck a pretty sore nerve.

Basically, there is no confusion in religion. I am fully dedicated to Christianity and in no way dedicated at all to astrology. My presence here is more of dwelling in a social venue and I neither understand nor believe in the intricacies of astrology. Frankly, I find Vedic astrology and Chinese astrology far more predictive and accurate than Western astrology. And I find my guidance from God 1,000 times more accurate than any astrology.

As for my wife becoming OK with it? Forget that because it will never happen. We're both life long devout Christians, and it's not because we were raised that way. It is our own choice to dedicate our lives to religion.

As for deception, I admitted that there is an element of secrecy and of course deception on my part. I shouldn't ever be on this forum.

As to fights, there are no fights between my wife and I. Our marriage is based on Christianity. That is absolute and will never change.

As to me becoming OK with it? It's not going to happen either because no matter how you slice it, the whole matter runs contrary to my religion. All I have done so far is to keep an open mind. Otherwise, the terms typically associated with astrology include "witchcraft," "devil worshipping," "idolatry," "Satanism," etc.

As for the Vatican, I neither dwell nor subscribe to the Vatican. I'm not a Catholic and I don't agree with the whole papacy nor the concept of sainthood.

I'm not here to enter into a fruitless debate-based p1ssing contest over Scripture. Let's just agree to not agree.

I'll make my own decisions in my own timeframe and under my own recognizance, and only let God handle the Judging.

posted July 20, 2013 10:47 PM            

The Bible says not to do witchcraft or contact the dark forces,

Astrology is not religious, in any form but this is not accepted by Christians. I am a Christian/Messianic Jew.

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