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Topic: CASE STUDY: obsessed and fatal relationship
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its_aqua
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posted July 20, 2013 11:22 AM
  
I think its the perfect case study of destructive,obsessed, passionate type of relationship
Okay, my friend is in a relationship with this guy for almost 3 years now. Their relationship is sick. They simply cant let go of each other no matter how sick and even dangerous it is getting between them.
The guy has beaten her up numerous times leading her to hospital, he has even went to the hospital himself after an accident he had with his car due to him being upset over a quarrel between them.
But they cant let go of each other. They simply cant.
They love each other, if this is what love should be about but really they cant live without ech other.
But they fight the whole time, serious fighting, him stalking her, beating her then she breaks up with him then he will stalk her again and cry and beg to take him back.
Here are their charts, with no birth time unfortunately.
Would like to hear your opinions. I fear that sooner or later all this could really lead to something bad happening.Girls Chart:
 Guys Chart:
 Here is their synastry chart, without accurate birth of times for those who requested it!  And their composite:
 For anyone who has more questions on their relationship Im all ears! IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted July 20, 2013 11:29 AM
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted July 20, 2013 11:30 AM
Her's is a fascinating chart due to this isolated opposition and the fact she is stuck in a destructive pattern, refuses to leave, reflected in the chart by lack of aspects to the opp. The sun/Mars conjunction in Gem opposite Jupiter/Uranus is where I am seeing her relationship with this guy. The easier aspects at both end of the opposition cross it but do not actually support it. Unusual seeing this pattern! I am sure you have noticed it already, its_Aqua. In his chart, there's an opp to moon from Venus and a square to sun/Mercury in emotionally driven Cancer from Pluto. The moon opp is isolated as well. Maybe these isolated opps indicate this destructive pattern and refusal to do anything about it so it reoccurs? His moon is practically void with only one opposition.
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libraschoice77
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posted July 20, 2013 11:45 AM
Post the synastry chart or composite, very curious what they have between them.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted July 20, 2013 11:56 AM
Her Mercury may be connected to an angular house somehow, because it's the only planet I see that triggers his natal Mars / Saturn square (classic indicator of abuse, whether psychological or physical).
Or it's just the fact that Mercury actually disposits her Sun and Mars.His Moon probably opposes her Sun / Mars, leading to a compulsive "need" to be together and the "can't quit you" syndrome + some emotional crises (Moon opp Mars). Her own chart has Sun & Mars (male significators) opposite Uranus (unpredictable, shocking influence) so that makes me think of a disrupting effect that males have on her. Plus Saturn conjunct Pluto and maybe conjunct Moon = emotional upheavals, possibly attracting dangerous / violent situations to oneself (especially if one of the planets rules the ASC / DSC axis). He's a Cancer / Taurus mix and possibly Scorpio Moon.. that alone speaks of someone very possessive, probably insecure and needy, who may inflict emotional / physical pain on women in order to feel "powerful" and like he has the upper hand (Sun / Mercury square Pluto, Mars / Venus square Saturn = insecurity, feeling powerless).
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its_aqua
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posted July 20, 2013 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by libraschoice77:
Post the synastry chart or composite, very curious what they have between them.
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Originally posted by Orange:
*subscribes to this awesome thread*post their synastry chart, please use 12pm for birth time
Ive added both th synastry chart and the composite in my first post! IP: Logged |
libraschoice77
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posted July 20, 2013 12:35 PM
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted July 20, 2013 12:35 PM
I wonder how honest they are with each other? It looks like there's a lot of deception. Is this what triggers their fights?Pluto is not afflicted in composite and trines the sun. They want to hold on to each other forever, never letting go! IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted July 20, 2013 12:37 PM
I see the synastry chart ( you have reduced the orbites quite a lot) but I dont see the Compisite.His natal chart features Saturn square Venus/Mars conjunction. Bad. Marquise De Sad ( the prototype of sadism) had that, as well as Adolf Hitler. But then again, Charles Chaplin had it also ...
The guy also has a loose Pluto square Mervury/Sn.. IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted July 20, 2013 12:39 PM
ok, got the Compositewhat can I say...wow a love stellium ( per lovely RAS theory) squared by Saturn. HMMM IP: Logged |
libraschoice77
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posted July 20, 2013 12:41 PM
Quite abit of 3rd house action going on, first thing that stuck out at me was their Mars conjunction Mercury, and his Pluto in her 3rd. Could be brash words that esculate to physical violence. Neptune in 4th deception within the home together?IP: Logged |
libraschoice77
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posted July 20, 2013 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by Orange:
ok, got the Compositewhat can I say...wow a live stellium ( per lovely RAS theory) squared by Saturn. HMMM
Couldnt believe it either, mabe the Saturn on it makes it tortured love?? IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted July 20, 2013 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by libraschoice77:
Couldnt believe it either, mabe the Saturn on it makes it tortured love??
yes, it seems tortured..and long lasting Opposed by Neptune..Neptune never looses faith. dwamn IP: Logged |
its_aqua
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posted July 20, 2013 12:54 PM
@SSS : yes you are right, there is deception between them, but often the guy has illusions about stuff happening that doesnt actually. For instance of he sees her talking to a man, he will assume there is something sexual involved when this isnt the truth.
I know he had been cheating her while she didnt even find out but contined quarreling with her and not letting her go.He has a drinking-drug problem which i think is obvious from the mars-neptune square if i remember right. He is so strange, he is like charlie chaplin and adolf hitler together, he can be like a little child and at then dangerous and outrageous. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted July 20, 2013 12:58 PM
This shows up vividly in the composite especially, its_aqua. I see a triangle of deceit in their relationship. Jealousy/possessiveness issues in the man's chart reflected by Scorpio moon opposite Venus and the Cancer sun/Libra Pluto square. Libra is the sign of partnerships and marriage. He reacts powerfully to his relationship with her in a way that's intensely emotional. Composite suggests they spend too much time talking, this factors into their fights. They start out verbally, then argue, then physical confrontation. They need to figure out a way to stop it before it starts imo. Maybe separate or stop talking when they feel things are getting out of control, for a while. Leaving when angry then coming back when cooled down works wonders. Bio feedback can help. IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted July 20, 2013 01:01 PM
The Composite describes this relationship perfectly in this case. Not so much the synastry.too bad we dont have the birth time IP: Logged |
its_aqua
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posted July 20, 2013 01:31 PM
The interesting thing is that they started as friends and then one night they had sex, the chemistry was amazing and they became a couple.They break up for like a week and they they're back together.
Both are very good-looking, popular to the opposite gender, he was a player and she could have any man she wanted climbing up mountains for her.
And yes these two people who were used to breaking hearts got their heart broken when they got together. Its so difficult to explain their relationship. He could never handle seeing her with sb else and I believe the same for her.
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Leocassandra
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posted July 20, 2013 01:33 PM
They could feel like soulmtes or at least good partners because Her Sun is opposite his Moon and his Sun is trine her Moon.Her Venus square his Pluto-well... love and hate.
DW Chiron opposite Moon- they heal and hurt each other.
Her Mercury conjunct his Mars- verbal fights.
Her Venus sextile his Mars is good.
Wide orb her Venus square his node- his lesson to learn about love.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted July 20, 2013 01:34 PM
Yes, all that Neptune in the composite. They simply do not trust each other. They need to work on feeling secure when not together. The guy already cheated so I wonder if he can actually be counted on?Still, no excuse for the physical assaults. It should be either break up or self control. And that's another thing that is lacking besides trust - self control - there are ways to manage anger and control one's emotions. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted July 20, 2013 01:42 PM
The houses aren't accurate.. or are they?Their synastry doesn't look that terrible but his natal chart speaks for itself. Plus they have Mars opposite Uranus in the composite - anger, violent outbursts. And no love stellium will save a relationship if the two people have co-dependency / anger management issues. IP: Logged |
its_aqua
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posted July 20, 2013 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
The houses aren't accurate.. or are they?Their synastry doesn't look that terrible but his natal chart speaks for itself. Plus they have Mars opposite Uranus in the composite - anger, violent outbursts. And no love stellium will save a relationship if the two people have co-dependency / anger management issues.
No the houses arent accurate since I dont know their birth time. IP: Logged |
page one
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posted July 20, 2013 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
The houses aren't accurate.. or are they?Their synastry doesn't look that terrible but his natal chart speaks for itself. Plus they have Mars opposite Uranus in the composite - anger, violent outbursts. And no love stellium will save a relationship if the two people have co-dependency / anger management issues.
What's really interesting is how the Mars/ Uranus opp in the composite *overlays* his Moon/Venus opp. Plus the stellium opposition with Neptune squaring Saturn. People have been saying that maybe her Mercury triggers him, but I think it's probably the relationship itself. That's one really beneficial thing about composite/Davisson charts: What's not clear at first glance in the synastry can become clear. IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted July 20, 2013 02:01 PM
Her Scorpio Moon and Pisces DC might be why she holds onto him and takes him back each time.His Mars/Saturn square in Taurus and Leo would explain why he's violent and abusive regarding jealousy. Cancer Sun and critical degree Scorpio Moon = why he can't let her go either. Composite Mars opposite Uranus speaks for itself, but then Sun/Venus trine Pluto. Their relationship would have staying power, for good or for worse...and Virgo AC, there is a definite theme of sacrifice or martyrdom. Sun/Venus opposite Neptune, no escape. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted July 20, 2013 02:04 PM
The overlays in her chart could indicate a very loving/forgiving individual since they are between Mercury/Venus and moon/Neptune. Perhaps this is someone who is quite susceptible to sweet talk and flattery so all he needs to do is say the right words to win her over? It might be easy to quickly figure out a way to manipulate such a person. What do you think, its_aqua? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted July 20, 2013 02:09 PM
I think the girl has Pluto and Saturn conjunct Moon - insecurity, and a desperate need for love, clinginess and neediness also.Being in Libra / Scorpio, that makes it much more powerful because it's centered on relationships. Women with a heavy Libran influence can sometimes be taken advantage of / mistreated for the sake of "love". Someone needs to shake her up and give her a good reality check. IP: Logged |
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