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orocairion
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posted July 22, 2013 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Browsing a few sites, I bumped into the description of Venus Square Uranus.

Having a relationship in the traditional sense with someone with this aspect is as horrible(no offence meant if anyone here has it) as it sounds?.

What can override this aspect and what can make it worse?

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posted July 22, 2013 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience with someone who had the opposition, the answer is yes.
And I've seen plenty of people with the square who just can't have a "normal" love life.
Even the conjunction is tricky.

A hard Saturn aspect to Venus could balance this out, but it doesn't get cancelled out, just.. gets more stable, I guess.

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Well, it can work out quite well if the other person also has Venus-Uranus. Though their relationship might be quite different from what is considered traditional or normal.

Also, relationships with Venus-Uranus are not necessarily headed for a break up. I know a man with Venus in Aquarius squaring Uranus, and a friend of mine has a stellium of Sun, Moon, Venus all conjunct in Aquarius squard by Uranus on the 5th house cusp.

Both have (had) stable relationships (though my friend is being single again, but had been with her bf for several years; and the one before that was ripped out of her life through a motorcycle accident).
But they will never be able to have a codependent relationship (not that this is so desireable).
They need to be able to be themselves in a relationship, and also have their own space now and then, as long as that is provided, it works well.
However, with the challenging Uranus aspects, there often can come up a restlessness if the surrounding conditions forbid that you just go on a trip when you want to, as there are obligations to fulfil.
If this feeling of obligations that limit their freedom (of choice) becomes too much, it can very well be that they break up a relationship, seemingly out of nothing.
But usually there are indicators before that.
They can`t bear any kind of boredom for example, and need constant (mental) stimulation and input.
As long as there are exciting events happening in the relationship, and there is a lot of fun in it, they will stay.
If however the routine takes over, it gets very very hard to keep them planted. As a matter of fact: Don`t try. The more you try to hold them back, the more they will want to break free.

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posted July 22, 2013 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this and have never had a "normal" traditional relationship. I want one but I am too bloody unpredictable and elusive, sadly.
Men start out being very fascinated but then it always turns into control. I need complete freedom of mind and soul to be able to properly function. I can play the whole housewife thing for a while as long as it's my choice to do so but as soon as I feel pressured or if I sense I 'm being "expected" to do something or behave a certain way I will fast die off like a spring flower in winter.

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posted July 22, 2013 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bearee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
but as soon as I feel pressured or if I sense I 'm being "expected" to do something or behave a certain way I will fast die off like a spring flower in winter.

this!!
i have venus opposite uranus.

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posted July 22, 2013 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the input.

I actually just had a massive "D'oh" moment when I just checked my chart and realized I have Venus Uranus conjunct.

People would probably panic and run away if they looked at my chart and saw that coupled with my Sag stellium.

Also helps explains why sometimes I feel like running away myself whenever I think of the idea of dealing with "couple duties".

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posted July 23, 2013 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyKitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the cookbook thoses contact of venus-uranus can manifest vary by individual...
I have the square tight orb
As I read the relationship of these 2 planets , I think sometimes it doesn't sounds bad as always . I 'll make it shortly about how it express in my love relationship
- I attract(ed) the unconventional ( but in a norm range) relationships ie. my ex are not the normal person that found in my area , none of them are my friends before, none of them work in the same place or study in the same uni with me ( I found the people from my workplace are too boring to have a love relationship with and in my subconscious I will absolutly never date them ) , all of them coming from a far places or how we met were quite not normal , long-distance relationship was also happen.

- I'm very loyal . I think this word ,you 'd never expect to hear from the venus square uranus people . But consider that my venus is in leo and my moon is in cancer , this would explain.
- I had few love relationship .
- I can't have sex without love.
- I don't do one night stand and never have it.
- my current relationship is now 6 years of living together , people think that we 're married ..lol and he is a foreighner with heavy aquarious ! How we've met was ..eehh uranion spark.

I think this venus -uranus have a bad reputation for relationship but as always said , everythings has exception for interpretation and the aspect can manifest differently by individual ie.as many astrology book said Elizabeth Taylor and Megan Fox who have venus conjunct uranus , and been through many relatiinship in their live. I will give one example that has this conjunction but still have intacted relationship , he is Devid Guetta , a famous electronic DJ , who married since 26 yr. old , and had children when he were around 38 and till now live with the same wife till he is 45 . But of course other things surronding him would be so uranion as his music .. I could spot a heavy scorpio-uranion in his work.

HTH

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posted July 24, 2013 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freesia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is Uranus person the one who wants to break free and keep freedom in relationship?
Is it so that Venus person feels upset in his/her feelings about Uranus person breaking free?

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posted July 25, 2013 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Glad there's a more positive interpretation of this aspect! Pfew, I was getting nervous again. Most interpretations you can find online aren't very hopeful. I, too, like exciting people who are wonderfully crazy. I do have a type, but who I end up falling for often still surprises me (typical Uranus style). Actually, so does any kind of relationship starting off. And I love the androgyn look. All of my boyfriends were considered alternative in some way, being more on the fringes. And I'm terrible at keeping my social life in rl (Venus) and online (Uranus) balanced. I tend to switch back and forth between both every few weeks.

My major problem with this aspect is that the timing's always off. When my life has calmed down and I'm ready to date or even for a relationship, no guy even as much as looks at me. But when I'm up to my neck with my own projects, family, hobbies, friends, etc, suddenly I get love confessions (one of them sounded straight from your average romance novel). And people check in with me whenever they feel like it - which is when I've decided to move on and do my own thing. My love life is anything but stable.

I do want space to pursue my own projects, to show the more emotional, volatile side of me, and I do need that excitement (the "spark"). My health issues are very important and I don't want to be made to feel guilty when I cancel something because my back & migraines are acting up again (when I cancel, it's because I really can't). I've been hearing that from people I trusted all my life, so no thanks.

Though the restlessness does play a part, Uranus also rules technology, quirk interests, astrology, politics... It could also describe your interests. Venus is also what you think is beautiful. It could be someone for whom the line between friends and partner is blurred (or meeting people who feel this way). They may like rebelling or their interests and values being the exact opposite of what people would think.

Like said, Saturn does stabilize a lot. I have it conjunct my Uranus in Capricorn (Saturn again) and it definitely puts a limit on how crazy and wild I act. There's always a voice popping up in the back of my head when I'm off on my own for too long, especially when there's responsibility. My Venus in Virgo is slow to make a move and makes me think twice about jumping on the first opportunity I see. Thank God for that, as I'm pretty bad whenever I fall for someone again - I go from one to another. If I'd acted upon every one of them, imagine how many people I would've hurt if they'd returned those feelings, you know? So I listen to Venus and Saturn mostly.

So before thinking, "So I'm doomed to be irresponsible!", it helps to take into account the signs of Venus & Uranus and other aspects.

Long post again, sorry for that. This aspect is part of my chart ruler and it's been a struggle for me to grasp ever since I got into astrology. (Another Venus-Uranus interpretation! I'm definitely using astro to reflect on my love life and how I could avoid those mistakes next time - in true Venus in Virgo style.)

Still, it's not my favourite aspect at all. It's like there's always something to stop a possible relationship from going anywhere...

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posted July 25, 2013 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Lovekitty

I'm like you.

I have Uranus sq Venus at 8 degree. I know some people here tend to disregard wide orbs. But I can feel my Venus-Uranus just the same way as you do. I've never had a 'conventional' love interest/relationship in my life.

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posted September 24, 2014 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 8ofHearts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just got hold of my first love's birthtime and in doing his chart, realized he has Venus Square Uranus!

We were each others' first loves and probably the most "traditional" long-running relationship I've had (7 years) and also the sweetest. Everyone thought we'd get married for sure and we were engaged at one point. We were born 1 year apart so my Uranus squared his Venus about the same amount of degrees from the other side as well. (And I was the one who left BTW.) I'm kinda shocked. He was incredibly devoted and a sweetheart. Venus in Cancer squaring Uranus in Libra. (I'm the Libra.) ;}
He never strayed, he was exceptionally affectionate and devoted (probably more so than me - I was the restless one) We lived together but were not always in the same place and had a dynamic life with lots of friends coming and going and time apart due to all the moving around and his playing a lot with his various bands (which sometimes was a bone of contention.) ;}

We were the best of friends. Venus's exactly trine, Mars exactly trine. Lots of sweet connections. He was Aqua rising conj my Jupiter and I have a Mercury/Uranus conj in 1st house. Neither of us are totally conventional these days but at the time, I think we thought we were and that relationship did mirror both of our parents'.

He also, BTW, has Moon inconjunct Pluto exact - the other "kiss of death" y which also kind of shocks me since he treated me exceptionally well and was very well loved by all females I know. No misogyny that I remember. (Moon in Taurus, Venus in Cancer.) HOWEVER, his Mother was a holy rollin' NIGHTMARE and one of the huge reasons we broke up at the time. She was so jealous of our relationship, she interfered constantly - it created huge problems. Sad. Eventually, we just grew up and apart but still drop a friendly line to each other from time to time.
His Mother, BTW, was a sun sign Scorpio w/ Venus in Libra and I am a Libra Sun w/ moon and Venus in Scorpio so interesting both connections seems evidenced by his Moon/Pluto aspect.

My understanding is the Venus/Uranus (in natal or synastry) needs intellectual stimulation and that connection we definitely had. He was one of the brightest people I've ever known and more creative and unconventional than he appeared on the surface.

He's married now, w/ kids so...it's possible. I hear he travels a LOT these days! lol. Ironically, I have no Moon or Venus/Uranus connections and have been the last of just about everyone I know to settle down. (Uranus rules my 5th house?) Hmmmm...Who woulda' thunk it?
[EDIT} I have come to find out I have Sun/Moon midpoint = Uranus (similar to having Sun and Moon conjunct Uranus) which is makes much more sense with the above.

The next boyfriend I had (which actually overlapped the above for a bit) and turned into a long, hellish off & on karmic pit of quicksand - I'm realizing he had Moon Sq Uranus and Venus Sq. Pluto (flipped pattern.) My Venus in in Scorpio, his Mom (who I love!) is Aquarius and he is definitely drawn to Aquarian females. My Uranus/Merc was conj his ASC. We both were restless alternately inconstant w/ each other and it was crazy off and on. Composite Uranus in the 1st in that one but it lasted a decade w/ some gaps. Ughhhh. Last report...still single and doin' the same ole, same ole.

WOW! Some things are making so much more sense. I sure know how to pick 'em! lol.


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posted September 24, 2014 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well, it can work out quite well if the other person also has Venus-Uranus. Though their relationship might be quite different from what is considered traditional or normal.

Also, relationships with Venus-Uranus are not necessarily headed for a break up. I know a man with Venus in Aquarius squaring Uranus, and a friend of mine has a stellium of Sun, Moon, Venus all conjunct in Aquarius squard by Uranus on the 5th house cusp.

Both have (had) stable relationships (though my friend is being single again, but had been with her bf for several years; and the one before that was ripped out of her life through a motorcycle accident).
But they will never be able to have a codependent relationship (not that this is so desireable).
They need to be able to be themselves in a relationship, and also have their own space now and then, as long as that is provided, it works well.
However, with the challenging Uranus aspects, there often can come up a restlessness if the surrounding conditions forbid that you just go on a trip when you want to, as there are obligations to fulfil.
If this feeling of obligations that limit their freedom (of choice) becomes too much, it can very well be that they break up a relationship, seemingly out of nothing.
But usually there are indicators before that.
They can`t bear any kind of boredom for example, and need constant (mental) stimulation and input.
As long as there are exciting events happening in the relationship, and there is a lot of fun in it, they will stay.
If however the routine takes over, it gets very very hard to keep them planted. As a matter of fact: Don`t try. The more you try to hold them back, the more they will want to break free.


This is right on point.

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posted September 24, 2014 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not to sound sexist here, but it seems to me that men handle the Venus/Uranus aspect better than women.

I have a cousin who has venus square uranus and her boyfriend has venus opposition uranus and he has proposed to her...twice. She denied him...twice.

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posted September 25, 2014 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
They need to be able to be themselves in a relationship, and also have their own space now and then, as long as that is provided. They can`t bear any kind of boredom for example, and need constant (mental) stimulation and input.
As long as there are exciting events happening in the relationship, and there is a lot of fun in it, they will stay.
If however the routine takes over, it gets very very hard to keep them planted. As a matter of fact: Don`t try. The more you try to hold them back, the more they will want to break free.[/B]

I can't stress enough how true this is! Sometimes I have wanted to break free so badly I have been a complete and utter mess; in physical and mental pain, ridden by guilt. Ultimately the freedom part always, always!, wins and I just end things. It's a deep down-to-the-core sense of wanting to be free, almost like a gravity pull. For me atleast.

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posted September 25, 2014 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jessica, i have an 8 degree square as well and i can totally relate! The fear losing my own freedom is greater than the desire for relationships! I need my own space more than anything. If i start to feel that there is too much control on the stake, i get out and run. Oh so many dates have i rejected due to it. And there are really no other markers for me to feel like that.

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posted September 25, 2014 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
I can't stress enough how true this is! Sometimes I have wanted to break free so badly I have been a complete and utter mess; in physical and mental pain, ridden by guilt. Ultimately the freedom part always, always!, wins and I just end things. It's a deep down-to-the-core sense of wanting to be free, almost like a gravity pull. For me atleast.


This and ceridwens answer is also why they are attracted to uranian types… they like the fact that their spouse have an unstable life without any routines!

My boyfriend have his libra venus square capricorn uranus in 7th house (and venus in 5) We have a very "stable" relationship that have lasted for 1 year now
We met in a true uranian way, and it was love at first sight! The uranian spike was there from the start I have venus/mars square uranus and venus sextile uranus in natal! And in synastry the pattern is repeated because we have venus square uranus, venus sextile uranus and moon square uranus It's like our own aspect are getting repeated in the relationship, so maybe that is part of the reason why we go so good together We both need our freedom and alone-time, and we're both too uranian to lead a normal life with routines

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Originally posted by orocairion:
Browsing a few sites, I bumped into the description of Venus Square Uranus.

Having a relationship in the traditional sense with someone with this aspect is as horrible(no offence meant if anyone here has it) as it sounds?.


I have this aspect natally. Venus is my chart ruler and in the 10th, and I have uranus in the 2nd house. I did a long distance relationship for a number of months and moved to another country to be with him. We then lived together for three years. I fell in love with him very fast. I didn't find it difficult because he was the type of person who was romantic and who gave me my space. But it got to the point where we realised we gave each other too much space and didnt feel love anymore. We decided to be friends after this.

I am now in a relationship with a man whose venus squares uranus natally. My venus squares his uranus in synastry. And we have the square in the composite too. We do spend time apart (he has aq moon i have gemini moon so im fine with it) but when together it is very romantic.

We also have some binding aspects in our charts(his saturn conj my sun, and DW saturn sq moon, sun conj sun), which add some stability. This relationship kind of feels fated, this venus/uranus aspect doesnt make me feel insecure not at all. I do not see it as a bad aspect.

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posted January 02, 2015 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, it's a year and a half later and I've changed my mind a bit about my Venus-Uranus square.

So far, CafeAstrology and Bob Marks had the best interpretation. It's to do with a shaky sense of self worth, or actually a fear of abandonment. Which can turn into leaving people when things get too crazy (and so a lack of room to be yourself) and it looks like the partner will get sick of you (and then leave you).

I don't necessarily need freedom to do as I please, whenever I feel like it, like a lot of these descriptions suggest. I just want to be able to be myself - with my best and my worst traits. I'm actually very clingy and it's tough having to let my partner go off and do his own thing (at the expense of hanging out with me)... but as long as my partner understands that this is a sore spot for me, and yes, I will freak out now and then, that ironically makes me extremely laidback with him (partying with friends on instead of spending that time with me? Alright, just make sure you get home safe). Because I know they take me as I am, which is what Uranus wants. And then they get all the space they want from me.

And yes, excitement is important. It was probably one of the reasons that the stable, reliable man I kept saying I wanted didn't do anything for me. (And I kept going for unavailable types I couldn't rely on... at least they gave me that excitement.)

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posted January 02, 2015 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well, it can work out quite well if the other person also has Venus-Uranus. Though their relationship might be quite different from what is considered traditional or normal.

Also, relationships with Venus-Uranus are not necessarily headed for a break up. I know a man with Venus in Aquarius squaring Uranus, and a friend of mine has a stellium of Sun, Moon, Venus all conjunct in Aquarius squard by Uranus on the 5th house cusp.

Both have (had) stable relationships (though my friend is being single again, but had been with her bf for several years; and the one before that was ripped out of her life through a motorcycle accident).
But they will never be able to have a codependent relationship (not that this is so desireable).
They need to be able to be themselves in a relationship, and also have their own space now and then, as long as that is provided, it works well.
However, with the challenging Uranus aspects, there often can come up a restlessness if the surrounding conditions forbid that you just go on a trip when you want to, as there are obligations to fulfil.
If this feeling of obligations that limit their freedom (of choice) becomes too much, it can very well be that they break up a relationship, seemingly out of nothing.
But usually there are indicators before that.
They can`t bear any kind of boredom for example, and need constant (mental) stimulation and input.
As long as there are exciting events happening in the relationship, and there is a lot of fun in it, they will stay.

If however the routine takes over, it gets very very hard to keep them planted. As a matter of fact: Don`t try. The more you try to hold them back, the more they will want to break free.


Wow, Ceridwen. I just spent some time typing a post here, but I could've just as well quoted yours instead. Especially the italics are completely true for me. You're so on-point here. It's been a while since this post, but thanks so much for the input.

All Venus-Uranus people should read this instead of freaking out over interpretations calling them (or their partner/love interest) a commitment-phobe.

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Originally posted by meissieri:
So, it's a year and a half later and I've changed my mind a bit about my Venus-Uranus square.

actually a fear of abandonment.


I have felt this throughout my early adult hood, which is why i wouldnt let myself get too close to people back then. I feared they wouldnt like me as i was. But that could also be saturn on the asc.
I think the key with this aspect we get more settled and comfortable as we get older. I dont think it is that bad of an aspect.

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posted January 06, 2015 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have felt this throughout my early adult hood, which is why i wouldnt let myself get too close to people back then. I feared they wouldnt like me as i was. But that could also be saturn on the asc.
I think the key with this aspect we get more settled and comfortable as we get older. I dont think it is that bad of an aspect.

Oh, I totally understand doing that. You must've struggled a lot too, carrying it with you for so long!

I tend more towards the "Venus" side of the square, but I've definitely done this as well - we were only going to see each other for a certain period of time, so best not to get too close or breaking away would be too hard. I didn't want to have to go through the pain of missing someone that much again.

In my mind, at least this way, this time I could choose to be alone rather than be left on my own. But in the end, you end up just as alone as without that coping mechanism. Especially back then, I was just so scared of it happening again, someone leaving me from out of nowhere, without a why, and not being able to do a thing about it - having to accept something I really didn't want to accept. Now, I realize that my natural reaction is either to get hurt and start clinging... or to panic and suddenly end things, thinking we're just going to end up hurting each other. Glad I can recognize it now and be able to curb either of these reactions until it's possible to talk about it.

Yes, I agree, it gets better with age. Having Saturn prominent does so anyway, like with yours on the ASC. Just enjoy the moment, knowing you'll never have full control over the way things will go (which was at least my hope in this whole clingy/pushing away thing) just makes life a whole lot easier.

This got a bit long, but I hope it can help others with this aspect.

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posted December 26, 2015 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunshine0705     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm.. what is a conventional relationship anyways?

I have Uranus square Venus but for me it manifests differently. Most of my relationships ended out of the blue and not always because of me. (I mean, it wasn't me who broke up all the time.) I had many traditional relationships that lasted for years. I'm super loyal, I'm very patient and I don't like weird things, or a sudden change. But I can get bored pretty fast and I need someone who can "entertain" me. (I couldn't find a better word, sorry.) My Venus is in Leo and my Moon is in Taurus, so you can guess... If someone is clingy it's ok for me if I like the person. If I don't like him, then it bothers me.

I can't stand stupid ppl tho but who can? And yeah.... when I'm expected to do something or act in a certain way, that's when I just start to rebel.

My ex boyfriends were all the same kinda types: muscular with tats. But for me that's normal.

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posted December 26, 2015 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about Venus trine Uranus?

I have this and I feel like I would want a regular relationship, but lately I am not so sure.

Being myself and doing my own thing is very important. I can't deal with anyone that tries to tell me what to do.

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posted December 26, 2015 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Out of curiosity, I checked my brother and sisters chart to see if they have Venus - Uranus aspects.

My sister has Venus sq. Uranus. She has been with her husband for 17 years no and they have 2 children.

My brother has Venus semi square Uranus. He has been basically single for 30 years. He now has a serious relationship and they live together. Both very different cultures.

I have the trine. I have pretty much had one serious relationship, with my daughters father. I have mostly been single in my life.

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posted December 26, 2015 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemmi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect but I have a different problem. I generally tend to cling to people and it is very difficult for me to let go (I also have Venus in 12th house trine Neptune, and Pisces on the DSC), but external circumstances tend to interfere and my friendships and relationships generally break apart :/ Although it happened to me to cut off relationships that were helpless (after some struggle… ) I normally want to keep people in my life but somehow it doesn’t work very well (e.g., I relocate or people have to move, or I struggle with finding a job and it alienates people etc…

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