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mir
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posted July 29, 2013 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Why in the heck do you think Neptunians are always trying to escape from the world..from their selves.

Ya just dont get it...


Because they're sensitive and like-all-of-us forced to live in a ratrace, in a rush, a time without any room to be human, in a completely unfair society where only the rich get true time and attention for their health problems while the poor die before their time because a lack of it etc.

Dying-before-your-time is that ever possible in the floating world of karma?

And.. is it really possible to escape the deep emotion of injustice by flying into a world that has the big tendency to deny it?

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posted July 29, 2013 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Because they're sensitive and like-all-of-us forced to live in a ratrace, in a rush, a time without any room to be human, in a completely unfair society where only the rich get true time and attention for their health problems while the poor die before their time because a lack of it etc.

Dying-before-your-time is that ever possible in the floating world of karma?

And.. is it really possible to escape the deep emotion of injustice by flying into a world that has the big tendency to deny it?


Hi, Mir, that was in answer to the totally incorrect statement that we, Pisces think so highly of our "dreams."

And that is just how highly we think of ourselves and our dreams, to run...

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posted July 29, 2013 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
They are also clashing with Papa Neptune, not much can be expected from them until Neptune leaves Pisces.

You are correct, my biggest problem Virgo has Virgo Sun, Moon, Mercury and Venus all hanging out...will have to have a look to see when this is/hasbeen/will be a problem for him.

But I dont see he or my mother learning, or experiencing anything from it except for an annoying fogginess...

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posted July 29, 2013 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience, dealing with several personal planets congregated in Virgo is one of the most challenging. They don't want to see anything from someone else's point of view. There's not much empathy and they like to blame others for everything. They never want to admit they have faults, just like everyone else. It's more about causing rifts and separation than unity and togetherness. They thrive on disconnectedness. That's just the nature of the Virgo beast!

Perhaps it's worse when these are afflicted? Don't want to paint them all with one brush and I apologize to the ones who have these placements who feel differently. Once you have someone in your life who manifests this negatively, objectivity becomes somewhat impaired. In other words, I got emotional for a moment. Sorry.

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
In my experience, dealing with several personal planets congregated in Virgo is one of the most challenging. They don't want to see anything from someone else's point of view. There's not much empathy and they like to blame others for everything. They never want to admit they have faults, just like everyone else. It's more about causing rifts and separation than unity and togetherness. They thrive on disconnectedness. That's just the nature of the Virgo beast!

Perhaps it's worse when these are afflicted? Don't want to paint them all with one brush and I apologize to the ones who have these placements who feel differently. Once you have someone in your life who manifests this negatively, objectivity becomes somewhat impaired. In other words, I got emotional for a moment. Sorry.


i've got 5 planets in Virgo, and beg to differ....my life story until now, which i won't share, is the biggest proof how the opposite of what you said is the truth


also guys seriously, on this forum, and you have reduced everything to just the sun sign? well i know Pisces who wouldn't know what forgiveness is, if it hits them in the face...more than once...and i know scorpios who are the most generous and nice ppl in their circle...

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posted July 29, 2013 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jellyfishtry:
i've got 5 planets in Virgo, and beg to differ....my life story until now, which i won't share, is the biggest proof how the opposite of what you said is the truth


also guys seriously, on this forum, and you have reduced everything to just the sun sign? well i know Pisces who wouldn't know what forgiveness is, if it hits them in the face...more than once...and i know scorpios who are the most generous and nice ppl in their circle...



I know, I know, that's why I feel bad. It's not everyone, just certain ones.

I don't reduce things to just sun signs, for the most part. I might stumble from time to time, however, I know it's a combination of factors. I have sun in Virgo like you but you'd never know it most the time because I have so much in my chart contradicting it.

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posted July 29, 2013 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
They never want to admit they have faults, just like everyone else.

Try again. I think most Virgos can see their own faults in such excruciating detail, that they're loathe to have anyone else point them out in such a jejune manner.

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posted July 29, 2013 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mcmlxix:
Try again. I think most Virgos can see their own faults in such excruciating detail, that they're loathe to have anyone else point them out in such a jejune manner.



Well, it's just a few of them, not all, are out of balance in this area - they spend too much time focusing on others flaws, to the point it alienates them, then they feel sorry for themselves, refuse to understand why people want to be someplace else. It's just frustrating - this one Virgo trait. Not saying all of us have it.

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posted July 29, 2013 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are these PIscean dreams spoken of here?

My best and long time friend is a Pisces who's stuck in the past and a workaholic. Is his dream to recreate what never was or will be? Fair enough.

Why am I the one (a Virgo) who has to shake him out of convention, to not care about the outcome, but to live for the experience, to exist in the now, to follow the imagination no matter how absurd it can be?

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jellyfishtry:
[b] i've got 5 planets in Virgo, and beg to differ....my life story until now, which i won't share, is the biggest proof how the opposite of what you said is the truth


also guys seriously, on this forum, and you have reduced everything to just the sun sign? well i know Pisces who wouldn't know what forgiveness is, if it hits them in the face...more than once...and i know scorpios who are the most generous and nice ppl in their circle...



I know, I know, that's why I feel bad. It's not everyone, just certain ones.

I don't reduce things to just sun signs, for the most part. I might stumble from time to time, however, I know it's a combination of factors. I have sun in Virgo like you but you'd never know it most the time because I have so much in my chart contradicting it. [/B][/QUOTE]

lol, i do get 'accused' of being an Aquarian more often than not...i don't find it bad, Aquarians have a stereotype of being happy go lucky humanitarians, who think on a different level...so i don't mind if ppl see me like that quite often...

what is funny is when they start asking "Virgo?? okay but what is your ascendant, what about this planet what about that...hmmm, okay then what's your Chinese horoscope then?? that should explain it...."


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posted July 29, 2013 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose I can answer my own question: this Pisces friend has Cancer rising and moon and mars in Virgo, whereas my mars is in Sag, I have a uranus, jupiter, mercury stellium, and moon trine neptune.

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posted July 29, 2013 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jellyfishtry:
lol, i do get 'accused' of being an Aquarian more often than not...i don't find it bad, Aquarians have a stereotype of being happy go lucky humanitarians, who think on a different level...so i don't mind if ppl see me like that quite often...

what is funny is when they start asking "Virgo?? okay but what is your ascendant, what about this planet what about that...hmmm, okay then what's your Chinese horoscope then?? that should explain it...."


Haha, yeah, know what you mean, there. Most people I know aren't familiar with astrology enough to go that far. They make an uneducated guess, based on my appearance.

I do get an Aqua vibe from you - friendly, easygoing, air sign quality.

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posted July 29, 2013 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mcmlxix:
I suppose I can answer my own question: this Pisces friend has Cancer rising and moon and mars in Virgo, whereas my mars is in Sag, I have a uranus, jupiter, mercury stellium, and moon trine neptune.

Yep, your friend would find a lot of fulfillment working with those placements. Could be some nervous tension/exhaustion from worrying about work related issues too much.

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posted July 29, 2013 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Could be some nervous tension/exhaustion from worrying about work related issues too much.

:-) I've never met such a chronically tense and exhausted worrier. He munches on aspirin all day...they're a cure-all placebo for him.

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posted July 29, 2013 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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:-) I've never met such a worrier. He munches on aspirin all day...they're a cure-all placebo for him.

Ouch! My stomach cannot handle aspirin for one minute. My Aunt has a Pisces sun and she's the same way about aspirin, haha! She takes it for headaches and everything else. I don't see how she does it she says she has an ulcer.

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Haha, yeah, know what you mean, there. Most people I know aren't familiar with astrology enough to go that far. They make an uneducated guess, based on my appearance.

I do get an Aqua vibe from you - friendly, easygoing, air sign quality.


lol, yes i do get that a lot, hmmm need to go and re-question my one remaining parent if they are sure that 'that' birth certificate is mine, or they just picked up any random paper, just to get it over with soon lol.

go figure, the most tense, pessimistic, unkind workaholic that had entered my life was an Aquarian, but his pluto in the 8th house so not judging him that much lol.

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posted July 29, 2013 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jellyfishtry:
lol, yes i do get that a lot, hmmm need to go and re-question my one remaining parent if they are sure that 'that' birth certificate is mine, or they just picked up any random paper, just to get it over with soon lol.

go figure, the most tense, pessimistic, unkind workaholic that had entered my life was an Aquarian, but his pluto in the 8th house so not judging him that much lol.



Virgos can be somewhat pessimistic, true, but Aqua is ruled by Saturn so I can see them being a bit like Capricorn about work and pessimism, depending on the individual Aqua, of course!

I admit Virgo gives people a great sense of humor, because of Mercury, maybe? Never met one who wasn't funny, even if it's a dark, wry, sarcastic humor. I prefer irony myself.

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posted July 29, 2013 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honest question: is the Piscean dream some distant, nebulous, romantic ideal that is never achieved in the here and now?

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posted July 29, 2013 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mcmlxix:
Honest question: is the Piscean dream some distant, nebulous, romantic ideal that is never achieved in the here and now?

yes and no...

Thoughts are things and our thoughts tend to be of things that will probably never manifest on this 3d plane...

Still, it is fun and good for ALL to recogize there is something else out here..

And our Pisces dreams connect us to what ever is out there~

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posted July 29, 2013 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
In my experience, dealing with several personal planets congregated in Virgo is one of the most challenging. They don't want to see anything from someone else's point of view. There's not much empathy and they like to blame others for everything. They never want to admit they have faults, just like everyone else. It's more about causing rifts and separation than unity and togetherness. They thrive on disconnectedness. That's just the nature of the Virgo beast!

Perhaps it's worse when these are afflicted? Don't want to paint them all with one brush and I apologize to the ones who have these placements who feel differently. Once you have someone in your life who manifests this negatively, objectivity becomes somewhat impaired. In other words, I got emotional for a moment. Sorry.


you got that sheeeat right!

I once accused him of being a "narcissist"

O, lordy...

But that is what he is....

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posted July 29, 2013 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Are you friggin serious? Think highly of myself for what goes on in my head?

That is just plain a dumb statement.

All I am asking is for VIRGO my opposite, ALL FIVE VIRGOS in my life to give me a friggin break and understand me by stepping into my dreams with me.

But like I said, they cant, their "dream" world is too perfect...their world is too perfect or a false version of what they desire to be perfect.

Believe me...51 years, 4 months been dealing with a Virgo, then at 17 comes along 2 more, then at 38 another, then at 49 another...

And they are all the same..

All so readily to critisize me for not understanding me.

If Virgos were to lighten up, a bit...

Geezzzzz....isnt that what our opposites are to learn from ,to mirror ourselves.

I dont swim the clear current with Virgo, o, no...I end up in a quamire of mud due to their, again I speak of the ones in MY life, inability to enter the Pisces dreams and just lighten up...

O, NO! Pretty mermaid tail is turning into the Scorpion (asc) stinger....

That stinger bites...

Na, we dont always hold so high above others what goes on in our minds..

Why in the heck do you think Neptunians are always trying to escape from the world..from their selves.

Ya just dont get it...

Sad


Damn. Way to be dramatic. I get it - you've had difficult experiences with Virgos. Same with Pisceans for me. And I have more than five (10 to be exact) in my life constantly since I was born. And as I've said before it's very hard for me to let loose around Pisces folks mainly because they're quite condescending about my earthy dreams. I guess dreaming is their forte and nobody else does it as well as them.
You probably didn't read any further than that comment that angered you so much, or you'd know that I actually agreed with another commenter about the fact that Virgos can also be way up their ass about their intellect. So yeah, of course we're not perfect. Of course we haven't figured everything out. We're actually known as the sign that is most aware and unhappy with their flaws. I'm ******* flawed, imperfect, immature and lots of other things but I will work on these flaws in my way. And I will choose the people who I surround myself with.

You were the one telling me in your other comment about how I wasn't able to experience all these other spheres in the dream world and need Pisces to do it and in this one you go even further by insulting my dreams and the spheres I'm in. And now you're acting all victimized? Gimme a break.

I avoid Pisceans because I already have too many in my life and I've found that other signs have helped me more to progress in character and work on myself while Pisces might be a comfortable sign to be around most of the time and they can be very lovely people but they actually irritate me in a negative way.
Maybe someday I will crave the company of a pisces and learn and grow from them. But that day isn't now.

I'm just telling you how it is for me in my life with the Pisceans I know. Just like you did in your post. No need for all the drama.

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posted July 29, 2013 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces is the easiest sign for me to understand, though, even easier than my own sun sign Virgo. I can see where they are coming from more often than not and feel that way myself most the time.

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posted July 29, 2013 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
In my experience, dealing with several personal planets congregated in Virgo is one of the most challenging. They don't want to see anything from someone else's point of view. There's not much empathy and they like to blame others for everything. They never want to admit they have faults, just like everyone else. It's more about causing rifts and separation than unity and togetherness. They thrive on disconnectedness. That's just the nature of the Virgo beast!

Perhaps it's worse when these are afflicted? Don't want to paint them all with one brush and I apologize to the ones who have these placements who feel differently. Once you have someone in your life who manifests this negatively, objectivity becomes somewhat impaired. In other words, I got emotional for a moment. Sorry.


my god you speak to my heart...

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posted July 29, 2013 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Damn. Way to be dramatic. I get it - you've had difficult experiences with Virgos. Same with Pisceans for me. And I have more than five (10 to be exact) in my life constantly since I was born. And as I've said before it's very hard for me to let loose around Pisces folks mainly because they're quite condescending about my earthy dreams. I guess dreaming is their forte and nobody else does it as well as them.
You probably didn't read any further than that comment that angered you so much, or you'd know that I actually agreed with another commenter about the fact that Virgos can also be way up their ass about their intellect. So yeah, of course we're not perfect. Of course we haven't figured everything out. We're actually known as the sign that is most aware and unhappy with their flaws. I'm ******* flawed, imperfect, immature and lots of other things but I will work on these flaws in my way. And I will choose the people who I surround myself with.

[b]You were the one telling me in your other comment about how I wasn't able to experience all these other spheres in the dream world and need Pisces to do it and in this one you go even further by insulting my dreams and the spheres I'm in. And now you're acting all victimized? Gimme a break.

I avoid Pisceans because I already have too many in my life and I've found that other signs have helped me more to progress in character and work on myself while Pisces might be a comfortable sign to be around most of the time and they can be very lovely people but they actually irritate me in a negative way.
Maybe someday I will crave the company of a pisces and learn and grow from them. But that day isn't now.

I'm just telling you how it is for me in my life with the Pisceans I know. Just like you did in your post. No need for all the drama.[/B]


Ahm...I did read it...

Really?

I am outta here, cops here cause Aqua kid is beating on me again...and I didnt call this time...

SO...Pisces being dramatic?

Live in my world...my world of giving to all and then some....

You have NO IDEA!!!!!

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I avoid Pisceans because I already have too many in my life and I've found that other signs have helped me more to progress in character and work on myself while Pisces might be a comfortable sign to be around most of the time and they can be very lovely people but they actually irritate me in a negative way.
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no offense to the OP, but by the 3rd page of this, and it is u not seeing what others are saying, u are the one that is coming across as selfish.

it is clear u have a problem with all the 'virgo' members in ur family, and so u need to dicuss it with them, not unleash your disappointment on the billions of other people in the world who happen to have been born late August, and early September.

i personally learnt to avoid sharing anything good happening in my world with some people who happen to be pisces. they pretend they are happy for u, then go for example if i tell them i'm in a relationship will go to facebook or whatever and start a hate fest of 'i hate some people' so that the guy i'm with, if he's and idiot, will go and tell them how much he 'loves them still'...u know a 'look at me, i still can get him to say he loves me, so it is still all about me me me me'
or 'why do ppl who are in a relationship think they have to share it'...or pick up things and then go on about how they hate them.

yet am not going to start a thread here about Pisces, and if they can't just stop their fishy ways? or do they really think people are that stupid? for the simple reason, that clearly those ppl had a problem in their head, and not like other people who were born at that time of the year.

i said before one of my bestest friends happens to be born late Feburary, and i wouldn't trade her for the world. i can tell u she has her good points and bad points, and it has nothing to do with her star sign.

honestly i think u should find a new way to establish communications with your family, as there is a superb miscommunication problem hence why u feel this way......or move away from them. staying closeby clearly isn't doing u or them (or many other people) any good at all!

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