posted July 28, 2013 07:16 AM            

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posted July 28, 2013 10:46 AM            

Was she bullied as a child? How do you know?

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posted July 28, 2013 10:47 AM            

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posted July 28, 2013 10:49 AM            

I am not asking you to do another chart but I wonder if we fooled with the time of birth, if we could get both in the 10th house.

Do you think this is a valid line of thought?

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posted July 28, 2013 10:56 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I wonder about Pluto and Saturn...does she really have that many enemies? She seems to get along well with others. I am not reading any negative press about feuds. The placement of these two raises eyebrows...

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Why are these placements enemies? Please explain xx

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posted July 28, 2013 10:56 AM            

With mercury and Venus in the 10th house, shed probably be a very early Taurus rising, her sun would no longer be in the 10th house though.

posted July 28, 2013 11:03 AM            

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Originally posted by LiesLilithsaidtouranus:
There are various articles surrounding how she was bullied and the fact she gave money to an anti-bullying charity a few years back.

With mercury and Venus in the 10th house, shed probably be a very early Taurus rising, her sun would no longer be in the 10th house though.

With Saturn and Pluto in the 7th house, I would understand why she has so many 'enemies'.
But you have to remember how Pluto in th 7th house work in a relationship. I doubt she has that in the 7th house, this planet can kill her marraige very easily.

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Wow did not know that about bullying. Yes, pluto in the 7th may not be right so where would you put the ASC to put it in a different place?

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posted July 28, 2013 11:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Why are these placements enemies? Please explain xx

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posted July 28, 2013 11:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Wow did not know that about bullying. Yes, pluto in the 7th may not be right so where would you put the ASC to put it in a different place?

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posted July 28, 2013 11:22 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Just because it's the seventh house, open enemies and all. Those two are thought of as heavy planets.
Maybe, Saturn and Pluto on the dsc indicate she is guarded and protected due to Diana's legacy? This could be another way of looking at them...

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Ok--Open enemies. It gets confusing when a house means several things. Do you agree?

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posted July 28, 2013 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Ok--Open enemies. It gets confusing when a house means several things. Do you agree?

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posted July 28, 2013 11:35 AM            

William is powerful( Pluto) and established, aristocratic, paternal lineage etc( Saturn)

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posted July 29, 2013 09:07 AM            

Saturn is moistened by the Moon ; security/stability tied into the home, anxiety surrounding motherhood and being a “good enough” homemaker.

Saturn is also warmed up by the Sun : gets better with age, develops sense of humour, more flexible and fun-seeking.

Mars square Moon ; impulsive, rash, physically vigorous. Intense, fleeting emotions.

Moon moistens Mars ; decisions taken emotionally, feeling to action, feelings dominate approach, protective and defensive of loved ones.

Sun squares Mars ; Combative, confrontational, brave, suited for militant pursuits, risqué and risk-taker, self-centred.

Mars heats the Sun ; competitive, likes to be first, daring, ambitious, domineering, leans towards “corporate” identification.

If Venus/Mercury/Jupiter is on the angles,
Venus/Mercury conjunction ; sweet-talking, tactful, can be indecisive, love of literature, verse and poetry, love of variety, likes to talk (verbalize things), speaks with hands.

Mercury is beautified by Venus ; good voice, great reasoning abilities, successful short trips, bright student, attracts acquaintances easily, well read and spoken, attracted to intellects.

Venus/Jupiter square ; many likes/interests, spendthrift and extravagant, generous, varying interests/hobbies, likes foreign places, fascinated by external culture, has many intellectual pursuits.

Jupiter expands Venus ; love of travelling (the further the better), tastes and preferences continually change friends/associates that are pleasure-seeking, a lot of “loves” in a lifetime.

Mercury/Jupiter square ; active mind, trouble keeping still, likes variety of places, likes to read (but doesn’t finish novel), expressive (can talk too much), open and benevolent, bright mind (yet undisciplined in applying itself to one thing).

Jupiter increases the scope of Mercury ; continual knowledge, may be tall, lithe (or both) may travel to other countries, likes walking (long walks), likes corresponding and conversing. Mind likes to delve into reading/familiarizing itself with the unfamiliar.

I say that she probably has a cardinal angles (Cancer, Capricorn, Aries, Libra); emphasizing the Moon/Sun/Saturn planets.

She seems like a very shy girl who is more intent in doing what others want her to do than branching out on her own and “invigorating” the house of Windsor.

Even the feisty Moon/Mars square is silenced by Saturn/Moon and Saturn/Sun square.

The Sun/Moon opposition is very evident as it causes some self –doubt and a leaning towards being a person who wants to please both sides.

Saturn/Moon/Mars angles will emphasize the highlighted qualities; making her sensitive but slowly coming into herself: A flower that’ll “bloom” in time-so to speak.

It is unlikely that she has a fixed signs as her angles; this would put Venus /Mercury and Jupiter on the angles; a mix of someone restless, adventurous and even-troublesome.

She’d have much more to say, much more to express and definitely not the quiet meek royal that we see now.

posted September 22, 2017 02:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
it turned out her ASC is in LEO
born at 7 pm

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Source?

I'm curious as to how you guessed Aries, Ami. I thought she was a Libra ASC (various web sources, including astrotheme). She is certainly a "wholesome" beauty with full cheeks, a feature I notice frequently in Libra ASCs (myself included!)

posted September 22, 2017 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:

As for a rise from marriage, I would see that as more of a Venus in the 10th house thing, rather than Sun in the 10th.

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That condition can also be met with the far more specifying aspect of Venus contra-parallel Asc (parallel DC). Take the chart as displayed there at ADB as is with Asc 19-20° Leo [14-15° North] and Venus [14S52] is contra-parallel it.

Look at the MC of that chart and Jupiter is opposite and contra-parallel it.

posted September 22, 2017 06:13 PM            

Isn't one of her mom's friends on the record stating she was born in the afternoon. 7:00pm in winter in the UK is evening/ night time.

posted September 22, 2017 06:56 PM            

"Afternoon" is non-specific. 7 PM is. Seems legit enough, because British BCs don't have times on them.

However, the chart displayed using 7 PM does not have much in the way of synastry alignments with Prince William's chart points. A chart for Kate with Asc around 12 Leo would align much better with his (her Asc ~17 N, parallel his Mercury-Venus; that MC 24 Aries 9 N, contra-parallel his Jupiter 10 S, etc).

So I don't take this time literally. I never take round hour times literally. And honestly, I just don't know her well enough by observation or biography to have a truly informed opinion. Just describing two features (Venus, Jupiter) of the 7 PM chart as is.

No one in this thread explained anything about how they see Aries rising in her. I'd be curious to hear about it.

posted September 22, 2017 07:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
I reject Leo Rising for Middleton.

Isn't one of her mom's friends on the record stating she was born in the afternoon. 7:00pm in winter in the UK is evening/ night time.

She's Aries rising.

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Yes, does not seem or act Leo Rising.

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