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elixir
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posted July 30, 2013 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elixir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since a critical degree is at 29' then does it influence the next house? Also if that degree is a "lesson" then does that mean that the lesson is to be like the next degree?

For example, I have mars in aries in my first house at 29'. Does that mean that mars would influence my second house more? Is my lesson to be more like a mars in taurus? My chart ruler is mars too since my ASC is aries so i feel like this has some significance.

Also, I have a friend whose neptune is at 0 degrees sagittarius in her eighth house...what would this mean for her?

I know walt disney had his neptune at 0 degrees cancer(opposite his neptune) and it is a cardinal sign so im not sure how it plays out in mutable signs.

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posted July 30, 2013 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh critical degrees are ''lessons''?

duh

My cancer moon is at critical degree!

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elixir
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posted July 30, 2013 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elixir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which degree?

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
oh critical degrees are ''lessons''?

duh

My cancer moon is at critical degree!


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posted July 30, 2013 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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elixir: Also if that degree is a "lesson" then does that mean that the lesson is to be like the next degree?

In my experience, I would say not to be like the next degree/sign, but to be able to handle all of the qualities of the planet and sign. A 29th degree planet tends to have exaggerated qualities of the planet and sign it's in - think as if all the lessons and teachings of the sign are converging on one thing.

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posted July 30, 2013 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
In my experience, I would say not to be like the next degree/sign, but to be able to handle all of the qualities of the planet and sign. A 29th degree planet tends to have exaggerated qualities of the planet and sign it's in - think as if all the lessons and teachings of the sign are converging on one thing.

Hm. . . that's interesting. Any sign on that far of a degree would be the Pisces duad too.* Like the ending of a cycle, maybe it is about encompassing all of that sign's meaning. You so smart S.E.!

* Note: If we look at the duad theory as every sign's first duad starts at Aries. Example: Capricorn 0°00' to 2°30' is Aries duad, 2°30 to 5°00' is Taurus duad, etc.

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posted July 30, 2013 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elixir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whoa prism...that duad theory is interesting...

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posted July 30, 2013 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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MsPrism: You so smart S.E.!

Thank you, thank you! *Bows, bows*

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posted July 30, 2013 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by elixir:
whoa prism...that duad theory is interesting...

Yes, duads are pretty intriguing. I'm currently writing up some of my experience in synastry with them. I don't know if I'll start a thread or respond to one of the many duad threads currently swimming through LL.

You should have a look at what Lotis White and Ceridwen have posted about duads, that'll just blow your mind!

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posted July 30, 2013 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by elixir:
does that mean that the lesson is to be like the next degree?

No. Not in my opinion.

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I have mars in aries in my first house at 29'. Does that mean that mars would influence my second house more? Is my lesson to be more like a mars in taurus?

Nope.
You're an Aries Mars, and you should master its qualities, not the qualities of a Taurus Mars.

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I have a friend whose neptune is at 0 degrees sagittarius in her eighth house...what would this mean for her?

It could mean that her Neptune is very sensitive and she may have a hard time using it properly - either going to extremes in escape and illusions or having a hard time being realistic, or vice versa.
All themes related to Neptune and the 8th house may be difficult to grasp and need particular attention, because this Neptune is like a new-born and doesn't have much experience, so its energy may be quite "pure" and erratic / confusing.

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posted July 30, 2013 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luisbunuel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Cancer moon - zero degrees, in the 4th house.

And a Virgo Mars - 28 degrees and something, in the sixth house. However, Astrodienst shoves it into the 7th house. Which I'm not happy about.

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posted July 30, 2013 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Just like Jessica.

It's a very sensitive Moon.

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posted July 30, 2013 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luisbunuel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Too sensitive, Doux Reve!

Just this morning on my way to work, I ran a list of all the things that annoyed me about school! It was like yesterday. (Although it wasn't yesterday, it was probably in 1992!)

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posted July 30, 2013 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha, yeah, I know.

Sigh, Cancer Moons.. so, so sensitive.
I mean you guys are sweethearts but dang it, that skin is way too thin.
Especially with a 0° Cancer Moon. And in the 4th house! You've got it all

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posted July 30, 2013 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can relate Luisbunuel.

I have a zero degree cancer moon elixir.

That's right Doux, I'm very sensitive but since I don't look like a damsel in distress and since I have so much leo energy in me AND since I have a cappy asc that makes me look so unapproachable and aloof, people would never have guessed how sensitive I can be. However, I have a thick skin,I think all cancers have a very thick skin. We can turn our emotions off..if we want to..

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posted July 30, 2013 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You guys are very self-protective, for sure.
And tenacious!

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posted July 30, 2013 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elixir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ somethingexcellent i guesd its counterintuitive because you would think at later degrees you are closer to mastering the placement

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posted July 30, 2013 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the contrary Elixir. Maybe it is the final test of how much you have learned through experience with that placement. Thus you are asked to represent it in all it's colorful qualities!

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posted July 30, 2013 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elixir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But at 29 degrees which house does it affect?

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posted July 30, 2013 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It depends on where the cusp of the house is. If the planet is within 5° of the house cusp, it can be felt in both houses or primarily in the next house.

Example: House 2 starts at 3° of Cancer with Mars sitting in House 1 at 29° Gemini.

This Mars, classically, would be considered in House 2.

Although, remember that degrees are actual points you may reference from planets actual positions at the time of birth. House systems will change the house cusps and different house systems work for different people. I prefer Placidus though some prefer Equal House systems and some prefer Koch, etc.

My advice would be to read the planet in house descriptions for both placements and stick to the one that resonates with you.

I hope that helps!

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posted July 30, 2013 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elixir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@doux reve yes I just had a huge realization about her neptune at 0 degrees in the 8th. She was abused and abandoned as a child and when she got older she had a pattern of abusive relationships until her last one ended with her husband. A huge scandal that even went public and he painted her as a drug addict and bad mother, all of which was not true. With his connections he got custody of the kids. Its been ten years and very painful for her. She has done a lot of spiritual inner healing work since then and I look up to her a lot..so I guess that is the lesson

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posted July 30, 2013 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elixir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@jessica I have two sisters with moon in cancer(one leo sun, one scorpio sun). They are very sensitive. I have cancer sun but it plays out different than the moon.also my two little brothers are sag sun cancer moon (their moon conjuncts my jupiter) . My moon is aqua

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posted July 30, 2013 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elixir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@doux reve, like you said the 0 degree is "newborn"..would make sense in regards to how my friend was before all those life experiences..

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posted July 30, 2013 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by elixir:
@jessica I have two sisters with moon in cancer(one leo sun, one scorpio sun). They are very sensitive. I have cancer sun but it plays out different than the moon.also my two little brothers are sag sun cancer moon (their moon conjuncts my jupiter) . My moon is aqua

Am curious ( since am a leo sun too) how different are they? I mean the leo sun and the scorpio sun?

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posted July 30, 2013 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@doux reve, like you said the 0 degree is "newborn"..would make sense in regards to how my friend was before all those life experiences..

I think it because of neptune being the planet at critical degree. With the moon at critical degree you feel raw emotions that take your soul by surprise at moments that are not within your control. At least that's how I experienced my moon and of course I evolved a lot from what I was when I was younger.

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posted July 30, 2013 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elixir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The leo sun is very sensitive..almost cancerian..but she still has that stereotypical leo in her..proud,likes recognition(still shy though). She likes to manage things and make lists lol. But its easy to make her cry. She is very watery.also she let's people take advantage of her.

The scorpio is sensitive too but u know how scorpios are. She hides it so well that sometimes I have a long talk with her and I'm like..damn..I never knew she hid so much or noticed so much..I need to pay more attention. She is also very psychic. I call her my fortune teller and tell her to predict things for me lol. She has the mind of a psychologist.

Idk their birthtimes though so I don't have house placements. They have venus virgo and like to discuss EVERY detail.

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