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beenylove
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posted August 05, 2013 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beenylove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which astrological aspects would make a person vindictive?

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Doux Rêve
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posted August 05, 2013 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please don't say Scorpio.

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posted August 05, 2013 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorrrrr......... LILITH
I feel this energy is scornful.

Personally I like a little pay back..
I don't care if it's immature, it's amusing!

Prominent Venus and moon can be very vengeful.
Especially venus...

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Lyrica
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posted August 05, 2013 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyrica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have some vindictive tendencies I have to keep in check.

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Sun Pisces
Scorpio Rising
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Venus in Capricorn
Mars In Leo

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posted August 05, 2013 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sag/Scorpio combinations FME

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black_rose
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posted August 05, 2013 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for black_rose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend was who is currently plotting revenge against an ex.. or two:

Aries Ascendant
Lilith conjunct Nessus in 6th cusp, Leo
Moon conjunct Mars in 12 house, Pisces
Venus in 7th house, Scorpio

Mercury conjunct Neptune in 9th house, Sag..I also think this contributes to her vengefulness in that her rage usually is birthed from delusions she has built up about the relationship and events that have taken place.

She also has very few earthy or grounding aspects in her chart. So once the ball starts rolling, she has a hard time stopping.

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greatquincunx
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posted August 05, 2013 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for greatquincunx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Scorp placements poorly placed.
They can't get over/let go of it

A thought : moon simultaneouly receiving harsh aspects from mars and saturn

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somethingexcellent
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posted August 05, 2013 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The water signs + Virgo and Aquarius.

EDIT! SSS if you say no to Virgo I will scream,

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posted August 05, 2013 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everybody has their own ideas but Venus square Pluto can be vindictive.

Edit: SE to each their own

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Lunae
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posted August 05, 2013 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun conjunct Mars and Pluto HAHA

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hippichick
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posted August 05, 2013 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG! I have to say Scorpio cause I am neath the energy of a vengful Scorpion woman now...

Met her here years ago...we were great friends...then I didnt conform to her ways and..o, lordy....


OUCH!

Tis OK! Pretty, shiny Pisces mermaid tail turns into quite the Scorpion stinger (Scorp asc) quite redily...

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posted August 05, 2013 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer--- if you hurt people they love.

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posted August 05, 2013 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capricorn! And an Aquarian I know of - family member (although the others wouldn't qualify).

I think any sign can be. I know it's a pat answer, but people change with transits, too - or they can do.

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posted August 05, 2013 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Noenemy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex married me to get back at his ex. He went to great lengths to stick it to her. Little did I know (we were in Neptune love) and he left me to get back with her, she dumped him and finally came after me for revenge against me.

He is a Gemini Sun, Merc, and Venus, a taurus rising, Scorpio mars conj. saturn & pluto square his moon in Cancer. He had very deep seated control issues. Could not connect to people. Uranus in 7th too...also north node in 1st (prone to bad relationships)

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posted August 06, 2013 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lunae:
Sun conjunct Mars and Pluto HAHA

OMG you don't want to mess with that person

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posted August 06, 2013 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wonderingwoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Please don't say Scorpio.

Unfortunately some Scorpios can turn revenge into an artform. When hurt/wronged they can seemlessly plot and put together a vengeful plan from start to finish for maximum effect. All the while their victim is totally unsuspecting/unaware of what's about to come their way.

The subject of the revenge plot may a have short memory, but not the scorpion. The scorpion doesn't forget. Reaction can be intense and immediate, delayed or there is no reaction at all- so you think. The moment you let your guard down, and just when you least suspect it.....here come the stingers

Pisces Sun/Scorpio ASC

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posted August 06, 2013 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My husband's vindictiveness is one of his most disgusting bad habits. No matter how long we're together I don't think I can or will ever come to understand or tolerate his attacks.

He's a Scorpion Jupiter+Moon (in the 3rd, opp Chiron). A Libran Pluto+Scorpion Saturn square to Aquarian Mars. Mars Quintile Eris in the 7th. (poorly aspected ASC/MC - except for Mars... his Mars is dangerous for an Air Mars.)

He just doesn't know how awful he is being or how to not be that way... believe me, I've tried to hold up that mirror so he'd see it isn't right. But, it goes right over his ego/head. You just don't mess with his ego... he's just one of those types. He's cold but his revenge never is. (sag sun/virgo asc)

Another example, eerily like him about revenge (and drama) and how enjoyable they seem to find stirring things up especially when someone has made some minor scuff over their fragile egos, happens to come from one of my dearest friends charts. She just creates trouble for herself without realizing it, and often jumps into long thought/drawn out schemes to make even her loved ones suffer. She's really complex though, and considering I've known her since we were like 5... I can just let her shenanigans slide most of the time. If I see her up to something, I stay away for awhile. ~shrug~ if you are anywhere near her when she's plotting you will get sucked in, there's no helping it.

She has Libran Pluto-Saturn-ASC cnj opposite Moon-Eris-Juno-DSC, Eris square Sun (Hera square Pluto, Saturn, Moon). Jupiter-Uranus opp Chiron. Her chart isn't so bad though either, lots of major conjunctions with royal stars though. chart ruler is squared by a few planets but quite wide... I think this is just how she is really. She's been groomed for this behavior since childhood. The neglect and responsibility set on her at such a young age, and the low self esteem with sometimes cruel comments, critiques of those who should have been supportive, and her peers. Experience made her twisted like this, not really the chart. Although those experiences do bring out the dark side of the best aspects, for sure.

Mars cnj Mercury wide cnj Sun in opp to Neptune... she just views everyone with that level of suspicion that is commonly associated with Scorpions, which is amplified by her own Scorpion decanate Cancer Sun. Her chart asks for balancing, but she gave up on that years ago. Now she's certifiably done with trying to be normal and nice. Which is a shame, but at least she's still here, and she's a crazy but great mother. ^^; Just wouldn't want to cross her. She's not the type to mess with, if you don't have some physical threat sneak up on you and deliver an ol' fashioned ghetto beatdown, it will come from the worst sh-tstorm, typhoon bad-mouthing you can imagine. Childish, but... she never cares. ~____~ you can't help these types. ; ;
It's habit.

I'm a cold burner... and a bit too practical, and earthy, and old, to play in the mud (slinging) circus of revenge. The older I get the less I care about getting angry at others, the more I accept people are flawed and that fate deals with everyone in the end. Like it or not, we all get what we deserve one day. I think of revenge as another waste of valuable life and energy - which are two things I don't think qualify as a commodity, especially for sick folk like this goat... but, I can at least somewhat understand my friend who likes making trouble and attracts trouble, far better than my husband who especially sets out to do people wrong whether he knows them or not, whether they care for him or he cares for them or not... that, I do not get... in the end, I just gotta accept they are both slightly demented individuals with really strange habits that involve causing others harm. (right?) lol ^^; it's not easy~ but, since I do care for these imbeciles... I'll learn. hahaha *^^*

Moon afflictions / IC ruler afflictions

I'm going to say that is a pretty decent indicator if there are enough other aspects present to support it. (such as the highly afflicted ASC or ASC ruler in these cases)

My IC ruler is well aspected
My Moon is only under wide opp from Saturn - and that is all.

Mars-Pluto in Scorpio gets a bad reputation for aggression and all that sneaky bs, like many Scorpion/Pluto natals... but - no, IME, Mars-Pluto *conjuncts* learn early to control their impulses. Other aspects between Pluto and Mars, probably not so early or easily. Mars-Pluto means I rarely ever get that angry, rarely ever need to seek revenge, and god save the poor soul who does deserve that 1% chance of retribution. lol (I may be tempted somedays, but I never act on it. lol ~forgive me, people can be verrrrrrrry trrrrying on my worn Virgoan ASC nerves.)

*sleepytime, still "venting" my days away over the CIC mistake, busy times - no edits/lotsaerrors* argh!

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posted August 06, 2013 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for themischievousone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would think mars placements/aspects would have something to do with a vindictive tenancies. That's the first thing that pops into my head.

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posted August 06, 2013 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by beenylove:
Which astrological aspects would make a person vindictive?

Pluto.
Mercury and Uranus, I think, but less emotional. More to even out the score.
The Sun would play a part because getting revenge is an ego driven task.
Moon, obviously.
Saturn.

Venus, Jupiter, and Neptune are the only planets I don't see being affiliated with revenge.

Moon square Pluto, opposition Pluto.
Moon square Saturn (hard to control one's emotions?)
etc.

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hannaramaa
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posted August 06, 2013 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
Sag/Scorpio combinations FME

Oh lord, don't tell me that... I just told off one. I mean he deleted me, but I'm still on guard..

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posted August 06, 2013 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars/Saturn can be vindictive especially when one of them is in water and they take revenge in a sadistic way. They can wait for a long, long time, all about correct timing.

Mars/Pluto are also vindictive, they are very explosive, they are not as patient as Mars/Saturn though and from what I've seen they usually stay in groups which consist of other Mars/Pluto people, gangsters of the zodiac.

Scorpio Moon - They can be very vindictive but it depends upon whether they are Scorpions or Phoenixes.

Moon/Pluto - They usually take revenge in emotional way, they manipulate you.

Cappys can also be vindictive but they usually don't have time for these things.

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posted August 06, 2013 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:

Scorpio Moon - They can be very vindictive but it depends upon whether they are Scorpions or Phoenixes.


How do you know if you're a scorpion or a phoenix? Curious. haha

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posted August 06, 2013 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Well I don't know if it's true but from what I've read Scorpions usually take revenge and Phoenixes let Karma do the job. Which category do you belong to?

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posted August 06, 2013 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When push comes to shove, I can be physically vindictive, especially when I'm overrun by irrationality. But usually, I let karma do the job. And you're right about mars/pluto. I have a tight conjunction.

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posted August 06, 2013 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Please don't say Scorpio.

haha, Doux!
im tired too to read about scorpios and revenge. If you search on LL all the revenge topics are about scorpios.
And then, theres those who do anything to fit the description even if they have just some minor placements;
its funny to watch them dig and dig in their chart to find something in scorpio ”ooh, look i have a scorpio decan!! i must be evil ROAR!” But i got to admit, its good for building an (healthy?) ego
http://youtu.be/U3cFvC0G_wY

On topic: the most vindictive person i know was a girl i met in high-school: Aqua sun/saturn, saggi moon, pisces venus. She was extremely insecure and tried to take revenge on something it didnt exist.

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