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popcorn
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posted August 07, 2013 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
saturn, NN and neptune and asteroid karma

Very important are Draconic planets to the other persons 12'th house

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posted August 08, 2013 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm seeing mostly Saturn/ nodes.

Do you think all of these connections are some sort of karma? Maybe depending on houses..

Saturn is also the glue, but karmic relationships don't last, so it's kind of a contradiction that Saturn is The Lord of karma.


I wonder how do u know the difference from glue to karma?

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posted August 08, 2013 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun/Saturn, Moon/Saturn(hard aspects conj, sq, & opp with Saturn), Moon conj Vertex.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 08, 2013 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
I'm seeing mostly Saturn/ nodes.

Do you think all of these connections are some sort of karma? Maybe depending on houses..

Saturn is also the glue, but karmic relationships don't last, so it's kind of a contradiction that Saturn is The Lord of karma.


I wonder how do u know the difference from glue to karma?



What's especially weird is a friendship with north node conjunct south within one degree, Venus opposite the other's Saturn, the others' Saturn conjunct the sun, and a conjunction of one's Venus with the other's Jupiter. How do you interpret that? Karmic suprer glue? Long term suffering laced with fun and good times? Probably.


It's a karmic friendship the point of I don't know which.

However, I have two other friendships that do not involve these aspects that feel even more karmic and fated.

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Doux Rêve
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posted August 08, 2013 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Karmic relationships can last a lifetime..

Actually, what confuses me, is the fact that Saturn and the Nodes supposedly represent "karma", so if they're present in synastry, it means that the connection is karmic, right?
So what about the "soul mate" / "twin flame" thing? Those relationships that are supposed to be clear of karma or only with positive karma?
Does it mean the "happy" relationships are the ones *without* Saturn or the Nodes?

*uber confused*

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posted August 08, 2013 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by birdy:
Sun/Saturn, Moon/Saturn(hard aspects conj, sq, & opp with Saturn), Moon conj Vertex.

I have sun/moon conjunct. I have met men with Saturn conjunct both my sun,moon and I felt nothing. No karma no attraction,
But maybe that's their karma...
Don't do well with Saturn on my Leo stellium
Burrrrrrr...

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posted August 08, 2013 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So who's karma is who's??

If say Venus/Saturn
Is it Venus karma or saturn s karma?

Planet Persons karma or Saturn persons karma

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posted August 08, 2013 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably both..?

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posted August 08, 2013 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems like the karma belongs to both of us. It's difficult to explain. It's like a friendship that isn't truly a friendship. It's just there for reasons unknown. It's like, "why are these two people friends in the first place?" I feel that way a lot with my friendships. I don't want to sound ungrateful or crass and that's how it will look. I just have mixed feelings about friendship in general. I never feel totally comfortable with the idea.

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posted August 08, 2013 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioness- I agree. I have never enjoyed Saturn conjunction on any personal planets.

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posted August 08, 2013 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm thinking, aren't *all* relationships karmic in some way?

Can you even have a relationship with someone that has zero karmic element?

Hm..

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 08, 2013 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People tend to feel insecure in relationships.

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birdy
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posted August 08, 2013 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doux-I cant imagine "soulmate/twinflames" being free of "karma". Maybe its about working thru it together.

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posted August 08, 2013 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thing is, my Saturn friendship hasn't even been the worst one for me, lol.

I guess it's just about how comfortable someone is with others, whether they second guess situations a lot. In relationships, trust is essential, so they tend to test that and if your trust quota is low in the first place, your relationships will feel more "karmic."

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