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Violets
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posted August 09, 2013 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone have a cardinal square, or multiple cardinal placements that have come into contact with Pluto and Uranus (and Saturn, before it entered Scorpio)?

How is that affecting you?

I've had so many transits coming and going for the past five years that I don't really know what's doing what sometimes.

I have Venus Aries 3 degrees
Pluto Libra 8 degrees
Saturn Cancer 12 degrees

So yeah, it's been interesting. Mostly just major life changes, but they've been good ones, with some rather large bumps in the road (so far...fingers crossed).

Uranus is really p*ssing me off right now, though.
He's just sitting there, perched at an exact square to my Saturn, making me want to pull my hair out on a daily basis.
*shakes fist at Uranus and yells at him to get off my lawn*

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Panthera Leo
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posted August 09, 2013 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my chart ruler Venus 7 Cancer 41
Uranus 6 Capricorn 33
Neptune 12 Capricorn 38

In my natal chart Venus in the 9th is already opposed by Uranus and Neptune in the 3rd house.
To make matters worse Transit Pluto is conjunct my Uranus and Neptune and is opposing my Venus.
Transit Uranus is making things a little bit more difficult because it is squaring my Neptune.

I think the conjunctions from Pluto To Uranus are making me feel very erratic.I feel quite paranoid and on edge at the moment.I think they may be clouding my judgement and may be making it hard for to think rationally.The Square to Neptune from Uranus just makes things crazier.I think the Pluto opposition to Venus seems to have shaken up my love life as well.I think it is attracting me to brief unstable flings and guys that are no good for me.

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posted August 09, 2013 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's been awful. Just horrible. Whenever I think I'm going to be okay, a whole new cycle of something bad, starts up.

We must be around the same age, because my Saturn is around 12 Cancer, and Pluto around 7 Libra. Jupiter completes the t-square at 6/7 Aries.

Thank you for posting this. I hate to hear that you've been dealing with so much for five years (that's when things slowly went into a down-swing for me), but I keep wondering how I have been in such a bad way - and you've validated for me, that there's a reason for it.

I'm an Aries, so it's only going to continue, but I'll get a brief break in there.

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posted August 09, 2013 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which houses are yours in? I've had some good things happen, but mine were/are mostly bad. Saturn was in my 12th, which was no picnic.

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posted August 09, 2013 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
It's been awful. Just horrible. Whenever I think I'm going to be okay, a whole new cycle of something bad, starts up.

We must be around the same age, because my Saturn is around 12 Cancer, and Pluto around 7 Libra. Jupiter completes the t-square at 6/7 Aries.

Thank you for posting this. I hate to hear that you've been dealing with so much for five years (that's when things slowly went into a down-swing for me), but I keep wondering how I have been in such a bad way - and you've validated for me, that there's a reason for it.

I'm an Aries, so it's only going to continue, but I'll get a brief break in there.


I'm sorry to hear that. For me, it's just been huge upheavals in my way of life (not necessarily bad ones, although with so many transits to Saturn in my 11th house, I have like two friends left...mostly because I got tired of having one-sided friendships and cut a lot of people out--but still, very isolating sometimes.

We've moved to five different places within the last five years, ha. It's been...uh. Interesting? I guess I needed the experience of living in smaller towns (I grew up in one, and loathed it) to get me out of my comfort zone and learn how to be more tolerant.

But I can definitely identify with the feeling of "Oh no, what's next??" So far, most changes have been good but a little bit rocky in some areas. I'm tired from mental stress, mostly.

We must be like a month apart, because I'm a Pisces, ha. Hugs to you, Teasel.

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posted August 09, 2013 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Panthera Leo:

I think the conjunctions from Pluto To Uranus are making me feel very erratic.I feel quite paranoid and on edge at the moment.I think they may be clouding my judgement and may be making it hard for to think rationally.The Square to Neptune from Uranus just makes things crazier.I think the Pluto opposition to Venus seems to have shaken up my love life as well.I think it is attracting me to brief unstable flings and guys that are no good for me.


Seriously! I feel so nervous, twitchy, and short-tempered right now with Uranus just SITTING there. He won't effing budge, it seems like.

Your Pluto opposition Venus sounds all too familiar, as I have that in my natal chart already.
Thankfully, after Pluto squared my Venus and Saturn opposed my sun, I met my husband, and there's a very different dynamic in our relationship (still a lot of Pluto stuff going on in our synastry, but some Venus and Sun too).

I went from living the city life for 15 years to now living about 40 minutes outside of the city in a small mountain town, growing our food, and raising a baby. It's a good change, but wow...WHAT a change! Sometimes I look back on my life six years ago, and I'm almost rendered speechless by the massive change in lifestyle.

But I'm not complaining so far... We'll see how things continue, and I'm not looking forward to the eventual Pluto square Saturn, let alone when Pluto gets around to conjunction with my Mars at 26 degrees in the 6th house. Yikes... At least that's a ways down the road, though.

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posted August 09, 2013 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Which houses are yours in? I've had some good things happen, but mine were/are mostly bad. Saturn was in my 12th, which was no picnic.

Pluto is transiting through my 5th and 6th houses (I got pregnant and had a baby, which was a happy change), Uranus is transiting my 9th house, so I'm driving a lot more than I ever did (fingers crossed there).

Pluto is in my 3rd house, so I've had some messed up interactions with neighbors, but only a couple of times, and things got smoothed over. Siblings are fine, extended family is a little bit bickery about inheritance stuff, but it's not affecting me too directly...

Saturn is in the 11th, so yeah...sometimes I get the song "Isolation" by Joy Division stuck in my head and it won't leave.

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posted August 09, 2013 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really do hope things improve for the both of you and that you both find some inner peace.

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Violets
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posted August 09, 2013 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^

Thank you. It hasn't been too horrid yet, so I've still got my fingers crossed.

Just monumental changes, but mostly for my greater good...so far. Sometimes it's just hard to get through the mental cacophony with so many hard aspects.

I started seeing a therapist who also does Reiki and energy healing, over a year ago. It's really helped me with some of the deep-rooted baggage stuff. Keep digging until I come out on the other side, I guess...

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posted August 09, 2013 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At the moment I'm trying to exercise a bit more to try and burn off some excess energy.I am also thinking about trying to eat healthier.I also talk to a psychiatrist every so often.

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posted August 10, 2013 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Panthera Leo:
At the moment I'm trying to exercise a bit more to try and burn off some excess energy.I am also thinking about trying to eat healthier.I also talk to a psychiatrist every so often.

Yeah, the eating healthier thing needs to happen for me. I smoke cigarettes, and I drink way too much coffee. It's not helping with the Uranus transit. I seriously want to pull my hair out most days.

When Pluto started squaring my Venus, I began seeing a friend who was learning about energy healing, aura cleansing, etc.

She was a little bit out there (some of her ideas were downright mental, but I took her word for it at first). She ended up taking a lot of my money and then acting like a jerk, but she did help me a lot.

Sometimes people who have the ability to heal aren't necessarily perfect human beings, I suppose.

Best wishes with the exercise and healthier eating...those are always good things!

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posted August 10, 2013 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its 5.22am here in Northern Ireland and I'm starting to feel a bit drowsy so I'm going to try and get a few hours sleep.It was nice talking to you Violets Goodnight

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posted August 10, 2013 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Oh, wow...! It's been nice talking to you as well, I hope you get a few hours of good sleep.

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charlie
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posted August 10, 2013 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun, Venus, Mercury, Saturn, Uranus and Moon being affected. Not sure what this means but life has been hell since July 2012!

Oh, I also have a Pluto in Libra.

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posted August 10, 2013 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
I have Sun, Venus, Mercury, Saturn, Uranus and Moon being affected. Not sure what this means but life has been hell since July 2013!

Oh, I also have a Pluto in Libra.


Oh, wow. What signs/degrees/houses are your affected planets in?

When I look back on some of the transits (Pluto square Venus, for example), it felt like hell at the time, but I got through it with my relationship (now marriage) intact.

Pluto square Pluto for me has been more about searching the depths of my psyche (not always fun, but definitely a bit of a relief when I get to let go of tired, old thoughts and behaviors). I hope that my marriage won't be affected.

Uranus square my Saturn is just absolutely nerve wracking, and I'm constantly on edge.

That must be rough with so many planets being affected for you. Do you have a stellium?

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posted August 10, 2013 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto has been transiting my 7th now, I've had an intense situations and encounters and met people who've affected me but nothing serious or long-term.

Uranus is transiting my 11th. I'm in the process of moving out and having to grow up fast. Even my romantic encounters have been quick and are moving fast, ending fast, starting suddenly. It's been crazy, emotionally and just overall BUSY.

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posted August 10, 2013 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Pluto has been transiting my 7th now, I've had an intense situations and encounters and met people who've affected me but nothing serious or long-term.

Uranus is transiting my 11th. I'm in the process of moving out and having to grow up fast. Even my romantic encounters have been quick and are moving fast, ending fast, starting suddenly. It's been crazy, emotionally and just overall BUSY.


Those outer planets...they are generally a tremendous pain for me to deal with, with my two T-squares.
They've been pretty nice to me so far, compared to Saturn transits I've experienced in the past (man, I do NOT want to go back to those places again).

Are any of your planetary placements being directly affected by Pluto or Uranus?

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posted August 10, 2013 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got two T-squares in cardinal signs.
1st; Sun in cancer Saturn in Aries Jupiter in Capricorn
2nd:Mercury in Cancer Saturn in Aries Jupiter in Capricorn

It's been an extremely difficult period in general.School,friends,family,job.But I think that it might be getting better day by day.

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posted August 10, 2013 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
Those outer planets...they are generally a tremendous pain for me to deal with, with my two T-squares.
They've been pretty nice to me so far, compared to Saturn transits I've experienced in the past (man, I do NOT want to go back to those places again).

Are any of your planetary placements being directly affected by Pluto or Uranus?


Right? I don't blame you. Lots of confusion and back and forth and strong feelings on this end, so far!!

Pluto I'm pretty sure is conjuncting my natal Saturn (yay -_-) Uranus MAY be conjuncting my Sun but at a very loose orb. But my Sun squares Saturn natally too, so I wonder how that's working out...

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posted August 10, 2013 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have

Sun Libra 19
Venus Libra 14
Mercury (ASC ruler) Libra 12
Uranus Capricorn 6
Neptune Capricorn 12
Saturn Capricorn 19

So far Uranus have opposed my Venus and Mercury, then turned retrograde, but still in orb with Mercury, though. The fact that it is my chart ruler makes everything a bit more complicated, but i love it. Uranus opposition from my 8th house has turned my life upside down, for good!!! I've got a new, better job, i've met people that have become my friends, i've met a man with whom i share an intense Uranus-heavy synastry... I met him the day transit Uranus squared my natal Uranus and sat on his Sun - he's Aries... I'm looking forward Pluto squaring my natal Venus, as by that time my progressed Venus will conjunct my natal Pluto, lol.

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posted August 10, 2013 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Panthera Leo:
I really do hope things improve for the both of you and that you both find some inner peace.

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posted August 10, 2013 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Cardinal t-square:

15 Cap sun
16 Jupiter Aries
11 Libra Pluto

Things have been intense, but I'm not falling apart (yet.) Currently, Uranus is trine my Venus and sextile my Mercury; that takes the edge off.

I've been changing my diet and dealing with health concerns, that's my main thing.

I'm kind of excited in a morbid way to see how crazy things get when Pluto hits my sun while Uranus is squaring it. Then again, I am already quite Plutonian and Uranian, so maybe it will just emphasize those energies more than usual.

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posted August 10, 2013 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Things are going okay so far.

But it' s not over yet.

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posted August 10, 2013 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
My Cardinal t-square:

Things have been intense, but I'm not falling apart (yet.)

I've been changing my diet and dealing with health concerns, that's my main thing.

Then again, I am already quite Plutonian and Uranian, so maybe it will just emphasize those energies more than usual.


I can pretty much identify with all of that. I think the Pluto square Pluto thing going on has simply caused me to dig into my psyche, which I already do, and make life-altering changes in my life, which I am also pretty good at handling. I actually like what it's done so far...I like my complete life overhaul, but we'll see how everything plays out.

Me too, with the health stuff. I've started making everything DIY style, and have gone pretty much all natural with most basic stuff around the house.
We already ate organic foods, but now we have a garden (that I dug out laboriously for months, and carefully tend to daily).

Being a mom is a challenge, but a happy one.

But as AscTaurus mentioned, it's not over...
But good point about already being rather Plutonian. Technically, I guess I'm Neptunian, but I always feel the strong Plutonian energy in my life.

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posted August 10, 2013 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Violets,

We are close in age I think? I'm also a mom, I also garden and eat organic.

I just finished a green smoothie: papaya, cilantro, grapefruit, ice & stevia. Yum!

And I LOVE DIY stuff!

Are you a Rabbit, too?

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