posted August 14, 2013 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by its_aqua:
Unfortunately the TOB isnt known! So houses arent accurate. She was jealous of Sylvia cause she was young, beautiful and innocent like she used to be but no longer was!
I noticed saturn square dejanira too I wonder what Ami has to say

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posted August 14, 2013 04:54 PM            

You are doing a great job. It's Aqua!

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posted August 14, 2013 05:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The asteroid medusa is a female's jealousy and destroying another female because of it.

You are doing a great job. It's Aqua!

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Okay her Medusa is in Sag 26•
So it is conjunct Saturn, exactly opposite Dejanira, square Sun and square Jupiter and square Sedna.

posted August 14, 2013 05:09 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

There could be a bit more to it than just being jealous. This woman is plain awful/doesn't have a good moral character and she took the opportunity to seize control and act out her twisted control freak fantasies at least that's how it looks.

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She was awful and Im glad she died, the crazy thing is that after twenty years in prison she got a parole and was freed but died like five years later.
It is so heinous, I cant imagine a woman who is a mother doing this to an innocent girl.

posted August 14, 2013 05:19 PM            

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Originally posted by its_aqua:
Okay her Medusa is in Sag 26•
So it is conjunct Saturn, exactly opposite Dejanira, square Sun and square Jupiter and square Sedna.

Come on Knowflakes there must be more in her chart!

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Yes, Medusa was destroyed due to the jealousy of a woman of whom I can't remember the name.

What conjuncts saturn makes for obsession. This fits

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posted August 14, 2013 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, Medusa was destroyed due to the jealousy of a woman of whom I can't remember the name.

What conjuncts saturn makes for obsession. This fits

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How do you interpet Dejanira opposite Saturn??
Also:
-Nesus is square her Pluto and quincunx (abit wide though 6 orbs) her Sun!

posted August 14, 2013 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, Medusa was destroyed due to the jealousy of a woman of whom I can't remember the name.

What conjuncts saturn makes for obsession. This fits

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posted August 14, 2013 05:30 PM            

Nessus and Pluto may be generational so this would not be counted much.

Deja is the victim. I have found that what CONJUNCTS Saturn makes one obsessed with it.

She has Medusa which is extreme jealousy of a younger more beautiful woman, conjunct her Saturn so I think she was this kind of person and she was obsessed with this issue.

Saturn oppose Deja may have been HER struggle with the victim part of herself.

When this happens, sick people can play it out on an actual victim. This can be projection or reaction formation, which is projection gone nuclear, as the person has pushed the feelings so deep she does not know she is doing it.

This is much more dangerous

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posted August 14, 2013 05:31 PM            

I think she must have big planets in the 12th like Pluto and/or Uranus

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posted August 14, 2013 05:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If you want to check the asteroid Hekate, that is one's shadow side. What touches Hekate, you don't want to face.

I think she must have big planets in the 12th like Pluto and/or Uranus

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Very interesting analysi Ami, thanks.

Hecate is in Gem 8•
So it is square Neptune and sextile Moon and Uranus.

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posted August 14, 2013 05:49 PM            

Also, I wonder what her chart would look like with Pluto and Uranus in the 12th.

For her to be that weird, I would expect 12th house planets, in one man's opinion

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posted August 14, 2013 05:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How about the synastry with them, It's Aqua?

Also, I wonder what her chart would look like with Pluto and Uranus in the 12th.

For her to be that weird, I would expect 12th house planets, in one man's opinion

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Here is their synastry chart:

posted August 14, 2013 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by its_aqua:
Wow nobody mentioned the square between Mars and Pluto! Ouch!

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Yes, this is a biggie

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posted August 14, 2013 06:04 PM            

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posted August 14, 2013 06:08 PM            

Gertrude's Mars conj the child's neptune. I have seen this in other abuse from an older person to a younger.

Could this be that Getrudes "passions/drives" shattered the child's ideals?

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posted August 14, 2013 06:11 PM            

The victim resonates with the abuser in some way, from what I have read. They are not random, in many cases.

Slyvia may have had a strong Medusa energy while Gertrude was struggling with being obsessed with her own and this may have been part of what triggered an already unbalanced woman, obviously.

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posted August 14, 2013 06:23 PM            

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posted August 14, 2013 06:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, this is a biggie

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That's what I thought!

PLUTO @ 19 CANCER SQUARE MARS @ 18 LIBRA, AND MERCURY @ 21 LIBRA.

This could indicate and extremist, violent approach and a vindictive attituden (when expressed negatively).

Also...

SATURN @ 24 SAGITTARIUS SQUARE SUN @ 26 VIRGO.

posted August 14, 2013 07:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
That's what I thought!

PLUTO @ 19 CANCER SQUARE MARS @ 18 LIBRA, AND MERCURY @ 21 LIBRA.

This could indicate and extremist, violent approach and a vindictive attituden (when expressed negatively).

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SATURN @ 24 SAGITTARIUS SQUARE SUN @ 26 VIRGO.

This could indicate a harsh, cold-hearted attitude (when expressed negatively).

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Also I think she is totally Fixed-void. I mean correct me if Im mistaken but she has no Planets in Fixed signs- could this be a deal?!?

posted August 14, 2013 07:05 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I can see in the chart, she is capable of using a lot of fear and intimidation to get others to do what she wants and she is quite controlling. Very manipulative. I've watched a couple of true crime shows where this particular story is featured and she seems like a really horrible bully who would say anything to get people to do what she wanted. Very abrasive and cruel, too.
I gathered all this from watching the shows, not knowing her chart. Like the typical bully, she picks on the weakest link and the rest of them followed along, hoping they would never be targets themselves.

Also, she picked on the child who wasn't hers and who's parents were far away, didn't know what was going on.

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Can you state the aspects that you think show her behaviour??
I agree with you SSS, though the children are also responsible. When I was 11 I knew pretty well what behaviour should be accepted and what not. I wonder why nobody ever talked to a teacher or a trusted adult.

posted August 14, 2013 08:13 PM            

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Originally posted by its_aqua:
Can you state the aspects that you think show her behaviour??
I agree with you SSS, though the children are also responsible. When I was 11 I knew pretty well what behaviour should be accepted and what not. I wonder why nobody ever talked to a teacher or a trusted adult.

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