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eyes_like_pisces
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posted August 16, 2013 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyes_like_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://sasstrology.com/2011/11/what-your-7th-house-partnerships-say-about-you.html

This article talks about how 7th house can also represent our enemies. What are your guy's thoughts and patterns you've noticed in your chart? If it does represent our enemies, what can we use to perdict our partners?

My 7th house ruler is venus in my 6th house. Not a greatplacement. It conjuncts jupiter and makes a grand trine with uranus, and saturn in 2nd and my MC conj to karma. There all in earth signs and houses. Unfourtantely I think these represent my enemies. I've been very unlucky when it comes to work. I've never made any friends through co-workers, but I may have made some enemies. I haven't had any positive relationships with earth sun' either.


Infact my chart keeps telling me I would benefit from working at home. Doing what, I have no idea. But I have pisces sun, north node, and POF all in my fourth house. And I have scorpio moon conj pluto rx in 12th (I often read I would benfit from behind the scenes work). My mars is conj neptune in 2nd and my mercury in third aquare squares my asc. Chiron in gemini is also in my eighth. Which tells me I have difficulty expressing myself, but I love to write.

So that nearly covers all my planets, but nothing seems to indicate any insite into romance.

So if 7th house ruler represents our enemies what else could we look to, for romance?

What do you guys use in your charts? What is your opinion of house rulers?

My fifth house doesn't really work either, its mars in cap 2nd house.

What if your house ruler makes hard aspects (squares or oppositions), what does that tell you? Difficulty in romance. I know someone's who's 7th house ruler squares their dsc.

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charlie
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posted August 16, 2013 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pisces on the descendant. Neptune is square descendant, square Venus in 11H and opposite Jupiter.

I have......issues with relationships. VERY fickle and aloof and I have been less than trustworthy in the past. I can be in love with you one second only to mentally shut down the next and leave you. There will be no warning sign..

In my pChart I have Aries on the descendant with Mars conjunct the ascendant.

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posted August 16, 2013 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury square ASC and Chiron in Gemini in the 8th. I'm thinking the term "trouble expressing yourself" translates into trouble being understood. For some reason I feel it has to do with the receivers, and not you. But your receivers find you hard to understand anyway.

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posted August 16, 2013 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars and the Sun can be used for determining what a (straight) woman's relationship signature happens to be. Venus and Moon can be used for a (straight) man's signature. GLB pretty much need to try all of them and see what works best for them.

Try reading this link for more info on how this works:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/220891.html

You can also look into your secondary m/f ideals. Check out this thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211116.html

BTW, the reason 7th house represents BOTH partners and OPEN enemies (12th represents HIDDEN enemies) is that so often when partnerships sour, the person who was your partner becomes like an enemy. Know of any nasty divorces? Former best friends turned bitter rivals? Business partners becoming major competitors? Fortunately, some maturity and wisdom in handling relationships goes a long way in keeping a person "enemy free".

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posted August 16, 2013 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to my chart, my enemies are ruthless. I have an afflicted descendant ruler in the third house by the twelfth and it's Mars.

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posted August 16, 2013 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Gemini in the 7th, Mercury conjunct Sun in Sag in 1st.

Either I am my own biggest enemy, or my enemy are really smartasses and know-it-alls I guess. lol

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posted August 16, 2013 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
According to my chart, my enemies are ruthless. I have an afflicted descendant ruler in the third house by the twelfth and it's Mars.

SSS how could you possibly have any enemies with that sweet Libra rising? Naw, I don't believe you've got an enemy in the world.

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posted August 16, 2013 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
SSS how could you possibly have any enemies with that sweet Libra rising? Naw, I don't believe you've got an enemy in the world.


Thanks, JKitty. I have been bullied before so it's not all rainbows and unicorns with Libra rising. People have said I won't stand up for myself and am easy to bully because I am fairly quiet, don't like to make a fuss. They don't understand physical confrontation scares me to the point I can't move. It literally freezes me in place. I've had nightmares about it.

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eyes_like_pisces
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posted August 16, 2013 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyes_like_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
I have Pisces on the descendant. Neptune is square descendant, square Venus in 11H and opposite Jupiter.

I have......issues with relationships. VERY fickle and aloof and I have been less than trustworthy in the past. I can be in love with you one second only to mentally shut down the next and leave you. There will be no warning sign..

In my pChart I have Aries on the descendant with Mars conjunct the ascendant.


Wow that's a pretty afflicted dsc. For you then, it sounds like the 7th house ruler reflects you as a partner?

Progressive aries dsc conj mars huh? I can see where that might go better for you.

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eyes_like_pisces
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posted August 16, 2013 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyes_like_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Mercury square ASC and Chiron in Gemini in the 8th. I'm thinking the term "trouble expressing yourself" translates into trouble being understood. For some reason I feel it has to do with the receivers, and not you. But your receivers find you hard to understand anyway.

Thanks for the insight hannaramaa truth is its probably a bit of both. When It comes to very general things I have trouble expressing things. But when people take the time to get to know me and come to me with their problems, I'm usually pretty good at making them feel better. hmm, so I have scorp moon in my 12 (hidden emotions from myself, and 8th house chiron. Makes perfect sense now. Wounds that can't heal yourself, but can heal others.

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posted August 16, 2013 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DC ruler Virgo jupiter in detriment in the 3rd, opposed by 2H ruler moon and squared by chart ruler mercury.

It trines my 7th house planets and NN too.

Being it in the 3rd, it reflects how I look for intelligence or a good conversationalist. As for enemies.. the worst one was a Sag sun haha.

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posted August 16, 2013 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lunae, you mean chart ruler Mercury, don't you?

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Lunae
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posted August 16, 2013 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL edited, my bad!

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eyes_like_pisces
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posted August 16, 2013 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyes_like_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jkitty:
Mars and the Sun can be used for determining what a (straight) woman's relationship signature happens to be. Venus and Moon can be used for a (straight) man's signature. GLB pretty much need to try all of them and see what works best for them.

Try reading this link for more info on how this works:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/220891.html

You can also look into your secondary m/f ideals. Check out this thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211116.html

BTW, the reason 7th house represents BOTH partners and OPEN enemies (12th represents HIDDEN enemies) is that so often when partnerships sour, the person who was your partner becomes like an enemy. Know of any nasty divorces? Former best friends turned bitter rivals? Business partners becoming major competitors? Fortunately, some maturity and wisdom in handling relationships goes a long way in keeping a person "enemy free".


Thanks Jkitty!!

I love your explanation of how the 7th house can represents partners and enemies. It makes perfect sense! Though I personally never expetienced a relationship like that, that has transformed from one extreme to the other.

I have my mars in 2nd conj neptune both in 9 degrees, sextile my moon. And my sun in fourth, trine ac/dc by 2 degrees. I do like cancers, scorpios, and taurus moons

Also, thanks for the links

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charlie
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posted August 17, 2013 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by eyes_like_pisces:
Wow that's a pretty afflicted dsc. For you then, it sounds like the 7th house ruler reflects you as a partner?

Progressive aries dsc conj mars huh? I can see where that might go better for you.


Yes. If you were to look at me that way I AM that Neptunian lover. I protect these, mostly, subconscious tendencies onto my partners and it makes me not trust them but of course I am the one who can't trust myself with all that mutable change and dreamery. I fare best with Fire men and women as lovers and friends because they are capable of making me snap out of my "daze".
Will I ever be fully loyal? I would be lying if I said "yes". My ideals tend to get the better of me most all the time and I am only able to tolerate failure and mistakes from friends.

Forgot to add that natal Neptune is also square ascendant and mars.

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