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Topic: Welcome Venus in Libra ~
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 3628 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 19, 2013 03:08 AM
^Yeah I do.Funny feelings in the air..I have a 7th house Sun,venus,Merc and Saturn in Leo Pluto in Libra. IP: Logged |
Zander916 Knowflake Posts: 245 From: Mercury Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 19, 2013 03:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: ^Yeah I do.Funny feelings in the air..I have a 7th house Sun,venus,Merc and Saturn in Leo Pluto in Libra.
I suppose I feel it. I'm a bit more "chatty", open, friendly, etc. That's a lot of Leo! But that's cool. My Pluto is in Libra also although I've never checked out what that means. It's 4 degrees from my Asc. From what I read, this transit for me means there should be love just flying all over the place! Weird that it just got done transiting my natal 12th house which has Venus/Merc/Mars. Every stinkin' year around June/July I have kind of a rough time. Maybe that's why??
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 3505 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 19, 2013 03:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by Zander916: Yeah they were good! A lot of my relationships seem to follow the same pattern which HAS to mean it's me. But I'm much different now since the last time. (3 years ago) I've changed quite a bit and spent a LOT of time and effort reflecting on my role in things not working out. The Libras I had more fun with. We would butt heads which wasn't good but lots of fun! Where is your venus?
Haha, yeah, that's the twelfth house part, reflecting and changing certain patterns. I've had to work on twelfth house stuff too, some. Been there done that, heh. I have Venus at 5 degrees Leo. Sorry I didn't respond quicker I tried to get some sleep but couldn't. I have insomnia - too much caffeine in the afternoon. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 3628 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 19, 2013 03:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by Zander916: I suppose I feel it. I'm a bit more "chatty", open, friendly, etc. That's a lot of Leo! But that's cool. My Pluto is in Libra also although I've never checked out what that means. It's 4 degrees from my Asc. From what I read, this transit for me means there should be love just flying all over the place! Weird that it just got done transiting my natal 12th house which has Venus/Merc/Mars. Every stinkin' year around June/July I have kind of a rough time. Maybe that's why??
oh so you are a Libra in pluto too? Nice How do you feel/view your relationships? I'm a little obsessive well may be more than a little.. you have a 12th house stellium? how do you feel your 12th house venus? Yeah, am the Leo queen IP: Logged |
Zander916 Knowflake Posts: 245 From: Mercury Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 19, 2013 03:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: Haha, yeah, that's the twelfth house part, reflecting and changing certain patterns. I've had to work on twelfth house stuff too, some. Been there done that, heh. I have Venus at 5 degrees Leo. Sorry I didn't respond quicker I tried to get some sleep but couldn't. I have insomnia - too much caffeine in the afternoon.
Oh no problem. Sleep is SOOOOOO important. I've always been a big proponent for getting enough sleep. That said though, I often have trouble going to sleep. Exercise helps me though. If I work out after work and go hard, it tires me out. Seems to help some but still hard sometimes. Especially with caffeine. Then I have this OTHER problem where I might go to bed at say, 3 and sleep just fine but get up at 8 or 9 for some stupid reason. Venus in Leo, better than Virgo! It has to be! But you know I think I just don't like mine because it's 12th house. It seems that those planets that are in there are the most troublesome for me. I have to be extra aware, and take extra effort to keep them from being little devils - making me think bad things and say bad things. LOL IP: Logged |
Zander916 Knowflake Posts: 245 From: Mercury Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 19, 2013 03:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: oh so you are a Libra in pluto too? NiceHow do you feel/view your relationships? I'm a little obsessive well may be more than a little.. you have a 12th house stellium? how do you feel your 12th house venus? Yeah, am the Leo queen
I don't like my 12th house! It seems like a house of evil! The self-undoing I understand very well. Leo Queen, eh? Well.. you've got me beat! I just have Saturn and Sun there. I'm kind of proud of my Gem moon though even though it too gets me in trouble once in a while. lol Oh I forgot about feel view relationships. Ummmm.... I think I probably was pretty confusing to some. There's part of me that takes on their identity, but another part of me that remains distant, and also unmovable/unaccessible. I hope to have the fixed or better at least. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 3628 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 19, 2013 03:36 AM
@Zanderaww..12th house is a difficult house but it is also a spiritual house. In Vedic it represents the house "what I am not" versus the 1st house " I am" IP: Logged |
Zander916 Knowflake Posts: 245 From: Mercury Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 19, 2013 03:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: @Zanderaww..12th house is a difficult house but it is also a spiritual house. In Vedic it represents the house "what I am not" versus the 1st house " I am"
I just edited that post btw because I forgot to address your other question. What I am not? I mean it's simple enough but how does that apply specifically. It represents what we are to go to or become?
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 3628 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 19, 2013 04:00 AM
^ Well you said it yourself You take on their identity when you are in a relationship. The 12th house represents your own undoing, hidden pleasures, overindulgence of pleasures,hidden enemies,hidden addictions,but it also represents liberation/total freedom from ego and karma. It is a long trip to understand who you really are and what is your purpose in this life.
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Zander916 Knowflake Posts: 245 From: Mercury Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 19, 2013 04:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: ^ Well you said it yourself You take on their identity when you are in a relationship. The 12th house represents your own undoing, hidden pleasures, overindulgence of pleasures,hidden enemies,hidden addictions,but it also represents liberation/total freedom from ego and karma. It is a long trip to understand who you really are and what is your purpose in this life.
Thanks! Everyone is helpful here. I LOooOOOooVe learning, well, not everything but many many things. It's so neat to see it all unfold as truth right before my eyes. I like the liberation/total freedom bit. It gives me hope! I've come a long long way already though. I think my 12th house is strong, very strong. I feel it constantly. Mercury is my strongest planet according to the astrologers I've had do a reading on my chart. Which, it's in the 12th in its' own sign of Virgo. It squares my moon though. IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 4336 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted August 19, 2013 04:21 AM
12 house is the house of hidden talents!! According to Vedic astrology, 12th house rules bed pleasures and dreams.Planets like venus will do well in the 12th house IP: Logged |
Zander916 Knowflake Posts: 245 From: Mercury Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 19, 2013 04:27 AM
Hahahaha! That's funny! I do have TONS of dreams and I remember most of them. I remember some from years and years ago, even from young in my childhood. Bed pleasures - That sounds like a 12th house secret to me. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 3628 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 19, 2013 04:55 AM
@ZanderDoes your mercury conjunct Venus? IP: Logged |
Zander916 Knowflake Posts: 245 From: Mercury Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 19, 2013 05:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: @ZanderDoes your mercury conjunct Venus?
Yep! Conjunct mercury but not Mars. But Mars is conjunct mercury. That's what it says. My Venus is square Neptune. I think that's been an issue that gets me into bad situations. LOL IP: Logged |
Zander916 Knowflake Posts: 245 From: Mercury Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 19, 2013 05:10 AM
I'm gonna get some sleep but if you reply I'll get it on the morning. Thanks for helping me learn. Goodnight! IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 3628 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 19, 2013 09:23 AM
You are so sweet Zander!venus conjunct mercury is a cool aspect to have!Look at the bright side I have mercury conjunct venus exact. yeah I bet your venus sq neptune is a bit challenging,I have the trine which can be tough sometimes,now I can't imagine how the square aspect would feel. Neptune is much more difficult to handle than pluto and uranus IMO because you never see it coming. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 5760 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 19, 2013 12:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: How are Venus in Libras like in relationships Doux?
The ones I know seem really mellow, they're really nice and polite, don't like confrontations. I guess on the negative side they can be kinda passive aggressive. But I've never been close to one, so I can't tell how they are exactly behind closed doors. For me personally, I usually like harmony and good conversations, physical expressions of love, going to concerts together and share music, and so on. I like *sharing*. All kinds of things. I need to feel like I'm part of a duo, there needs to be complicity and exclusivity. People who are too aloof make me feel like I don't matter, so I need consistency. I am not really clingy but can be quite possessive, although that's probably the Scorpio. All in all I'm pretty chill and cool. I'm not hysterical, I don't drive people crazy with demands or jealousy (unless reaaaally provoked! lol). I think Libra Venuses are quite good partners but we may lack some.. "fire" so to speak. We can get along with pretty much everyone but that doesn't mean our feelings run deep for everyone. I know a lot of Libra Venuses fall in love really easily, I think that's because we like the romantic phase or relationships, when you're enthralled with someone, and can imagine all kinds of great things about that person.
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 3505 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 19, 2013 12:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Zander916: Oh no problem. Sleep is SOOOOOO important. I've always been a big proponent for getting enough sleep. That said though, I often have trouble going to sleep. Exercise helps me though. If I work out after work and go hard, it tires me out. Seems to help some but still hard sometimes. Especially with caffeine. Then I have this OTHER problem where I might go to bed at say, 3 and sleep just fine but get up at 8 or 9 for some stupid reason. Venus in Leo, better than Virgo! It has to be! But you know I think I just don't like mine because it's 12th house. It seems that those planets that are in there are the most troublesome for me. I have to be extra aware, and take extra effort to keep them from being little devils - making me think bad things and say bad things. LOL
I finally managed to crash after I typed that post to you, finally got my mind to wind down some and got sleepy. Before, I wasn't feeling tired at all and I have been crashing about four in the morning and getting up around nine thirty am which isn't too much sleep. I caught up, some. Venus in Leo is alright for certain things, art, creativity, fun, but it is just so-so imo, for matters of the heart. Maybe it's because Venus is in the domicile of the sun and they are two different concepts. Venus is about sharing and caring while the sun is about the self, pretty much, so. And, it's in the tenth house in my chart, which is more about reputation than it is about relations. I am not that great at relationships, in other words. Can't speak for all Venus in Leos though, just me I have the same problem with twelfth, if I don't watch it, stuff always happens that goes against me, even without me trying Things tend to go bad even when they start out great although I have had the opposite before, too. Things start of bad, end up pretty good. It's why I stay quiet, am so evasive. I find it's the best way to deal with twelfth house stuff which can quickly become huge mountains and earthquakes, you know? Metaphorically speaking. Starts out with just a tremor, suddenly the ground is splitting in half or that tiny ant hill, suddenly juts up to the sky and becomes Mt Everest. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 2039 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 19, 2013 01:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: The ones I know seem really mellow, they're really nice and polite, don't like confrontations. I guess on the negative side they can be kinda passive aggressive. But I've never been close to one, so I can't tell how they are exactly behind closed doors.For me personally, I usually like harmony and good conversations, physical expressions of love, going to concerts together and share music, and so on. I like *sharing*. All kinds of things. I need to feel like I'm part of a duo, there needs to be complicity and exclusivity. People who are too aloof make me feel like I don't matter, so I need consistency. I am not really clingy but can be quite possessive, although that's probably the Scorpio. All in all I'm pretty chill and cool. I'm not hysterical, I don't drive people crazy with demands or jealousy (unless reaaaally provoked! lol). I think Libra Venuses are quite good partners but we may lack some.. "fire" so to speak. We can get along with pretty much everyone but that doesn't mean our feelings run deep for everyone. I know a lot of Libra Venuses fall in love really easily, I think that's because we like the romantic phase or relationships, when you're enthralled with someone, and can imagine all kinds of great things about that person.
Hmm I know few Libra Venuses, all Scorpio Suns. Uranus and Neptune square their Venus and their Venuses are also conjuncted by Jupiter and one thing I noticed about them is that they are not really interested in relationships. Could it be due to square from Uranus? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 5760 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 19, 2013 01:13 PM
No, I don't think so. All the ones I know are very relationship-oriented, with or without Uranus in the mix.IP: Logged |
Zander916 Knowflake Posts: 245 From: Mercury Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 19, 2013 01:26 PM
@SSSExactly what I get in 12th. Having Venus, Mercury, and Mars there, I don't recall details but I clearly remember the emotional side of some situations. All will be good, then I say something that I think is no big deal, or I meant it one way and it sounds another. The next thing I know I have furry staring me in the face. TOTALLY caught off guard to the point that I need them to explain to me what made them upset because I just don't get it! -- "What?? What happened?? What'd I do??" @All Another thing I found with Libra - generous. They will give give give. They subtly expect it back in your way of giving (balance) and are willing to --hint-- you about their desires.
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anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 2039 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 19, 2013 01:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Zander916:
@AllAnother thing I found with Libra - generous. They will give give give. They subtly expect it back in your way of giving (balance) and are willing to --hint-- you about their desires.
I think Virgos are the ones that give, give, give, Libras like to maintain balance. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 3505 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 19, 2013 01:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Zander916: @SSSExactly what I get in 12th. Having Venus, Mercury, and Mars there, I don't recall details but I clearly remember the emotional side of some situations. All will be good, then I say something that I think is no big deal, or I meant it one way and it sounds another. The next thing I know I have furry staring me in the face. TOTALLY caught off guard to the point that I need them to explain to me what made them upset because I just don't get it! -- "What?? What happened?? What'd I do??" @All Another thing I found with Libra - generous. They will give give give. They subtly expect it back in your way of giving (balance) and are willing to --hint-- you about their desires.
Venus is in Virgo in your chart, where it is supposed to be weaker, yet it's in the twelfth, where it's supposedly stronger. I have the same with Taurus moon in eighth. So which is it, stronger because it's in Taurus or weaker because it's in the eighth house? With your Venus it's like, is it weaker because of Virgo or stronger because of the twelfth? You do have the twelfth house introspection going for you Like to think about stuff.I would expect Libra wanting their due. Pisces/Jupiter, Neptune and the twelfth house are about giving without expecting anything back. Libra is more about giving, then being rewarded in some way. Libras like to know everyone is doing their fair share. I get into those tangles with my Libra planets. If I am working, feel like everyone else is sitting around bsing while I am doing everything, I get really resentful, lol, and then I don't want to do anything, either. It is kinda childish, those Libra planets won't have it any other way. They get sulky at times if they feel like they are the "only ones." My Libra planets NEVER want to feel like they are "the only ones" ever. Anonymi: Libra likes to be generous/ give but they like to know they will get something back. Big issue with Libra. It's about fairness, I did this for you and you don't care/ treat me like I don't exist it's very upsetting to Libras, can lead to sulking and resentment.
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Zander916 Knowflake Posts: 245 From: Mercury Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 19, 2013 01:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: I think Virgos are the ones that give, give, give, Libras like to maintain balance.
Hmmm... maybe it was other things in their chart then. *shrugs* Ah-ha! OR... I know. I just thought of this, I mean.... this is what it was! I was so giving that they had to give back to balance it. Seriously, I am normally very giving myself. As you put it, Venus Virgo (and Mars and Mercury). I do give, sometimes too much. However, I do clearly remember some heated moments with one in particular exactly about what SSS said. I didn't give, and they certainly let me know!
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 5760 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 19, 2013 02:01 PM
Most Virgos and Virgo placements I know are actually quite selfish.Libra placements, especially Moon, Venus and ASC, tend to give and give, but they do expect the same in return. Isn't that only fair? IP: Logged | |